RMweb Gold Alister_G Posted January 15, 2014 RMweb Gold Share Posted January 15, 2014 Oh dear, you've really given me something to aim at now, haven't you! Wonderful work mate, and love the paint finish you've achieved. What gets me about you're work is that you manage to achieve results far better than mine, and yet you mostly use bits of scrap, old paint, lollipop sticks and coffee stirrers! Whereas I spend a fortune on plasticard, styrene and proper paints, and still can't match you I hate you, dammit! Al. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
freebs Posted January 15, 2014 Author Share Posted January 15, 2014 Oh dear, you've really given me something to aim at now, haven't you! Wonderful work mate, and love the paint finish you've achieved. What gets me about you're work is that you manage to achieve results far better than mine, and yet you mostly use bits of scrap, old paint, lollipop sticks and coffee stirrers! Whereas I spend a fortune on plasticard, styrene and proper paints, and still can't match you I hate you, dammit! Al. Ah, no mate. I'm a cheapskate tightwad and can't afford the plasticard - if I had the cash I'd buy shed loads of Slaters 7mm Dressed and Cotswold stone - it'd certainly get stuff built quicker. As for paints, again, I've got some pots of Humbrol Acrylic for specific colours, but I've tried to make do with what I've already got. It's pleasing to know my work is appreciated and admired. As I've no styrene strips, I cut my own last night for the ridge tiles - I cut a 6mm strip of 10thou, scoring at 3mm before I cut the strip out, then hand bent it to 90 degrees. Then I needed some thin strip for the ridge bits, so cut out some 1/32" strips (sorry for mixing measurements, but this was the smallest measurement on my ruler) and cut them into smaller bits. I was going to photo document the process, but my wife wanted the camera last night I wouldn't say you can't match me - without flattering myself I'd like to think we're on a par - I've only been at this for about 12 months (making model buildings) and that's only after seeing Iain Robinson's blog - before that I was quite pleased with building papers I tell you what I won't be able to bodge without the real thing - and that's the guttering - I definitely need some 2mm half round for that - and that means a trip to the model shop 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jaz Posted January 15, 2014 Share Posted January 15, 2014 Clearly my 'Only those I watch list is far too big' how i have missed that you have been posting such gorgeous works amazes and grieves me, look what I have been missing. The tiles are superb, I know you mention it loses the roof...you could cheat and do a la Robinson and have a bit collapsed to show it off. But that would not be appropriate I suppose. Wonderful work, top flight actually. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
freebs Posted January 16, 2014 Author Share Posted January 16, 2014 Evening all - well Morning, but hey ho... just thought I'd quickly pop up the ridge tile pics: I'm really tired at the moment so hope the pics are self explanatory - it's a technique I copied from Peter Leyland (GravyTrain) from his how to build a signal box thread Lee Tomorrow I'm going to dry-brush the main and office roofs and then paint the barge boards, so all that will be left will be the rain goods Does anyone know what kind of signage might go on the side of a 'Shed? 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Mikkel Posted January 16, 2014 RMweb Gold Share Posted January 16, 2014 Hi Lee, Regarding the roof, are you aware that the 16th row from the bottom overlap the wrong way? Only joking of course, that roof is superb and the whole building has such a nice "heavy" look to it, as the real thing would. Getting really close to finishing it now, I think? Regarding signs, from photos I have not seen much in the way of that. I doubt there would be adverts unless it was positioned directly opposite and close to a platform? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Iain C Robinson Posted January 16, 2014 Share Posted January 16, 2014 Hi Lee, I have just caught up with your very fine work...what a pleasure to see this. The slates and ridge tiles are absolutely superb, I love the rounded edges and the consistent shape of the slates. It's all looking so fine - can't wait to see the barge boards and rain goods fitted. I agree with Mikkel, I think enamel signage would only be applied if it was facing a station...but you might get a couple of cast iron "No Engines past this point" signs at each door, as loco's were not usually allowed inside goods sheds. Similarly, perhaps a small "office" sign etc... Lovely work. cheers, Iain 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
C&WR Posted January 16, 2014 Share Posted January 16, 2014 (edited) Love the ridge tiles, freebs, that one's mentally stored away! If it's any help the Scalescenes goods shed has some very simple and generic signs saying things like "Goods Depot", "Private", "Goods Office" (with an arrow) and so on. There's certainly no advertising. However their on their Staverton kit the shed is covered in the things & I understand that's drawn from real life! Edited January 16, 2014 by C&WR Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
freebs Posted January 16, 2014 Author Share Posted January 16, 2014 OK, I'll set up a few simple signs for later use. Just called at the model shop on way way in from Hospital and it was shut! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alderson.eric.j Posted January 16, 2014 Share Posted January 16, 2014 (edited) Wow. This building really looks great ! Thanks for explaining how you've done the ridge tiles. Eric. Edited January 16, 2014 by alderson.eric.j 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold JCL Posted January 16, 2014 RMweb Gold Share Posted January 16, 2014 Ah, no mate. I'm a cheapskate tightwad and can't afford the plasticard - if I had the cash I'd buy shed loads of Slaters 7mm Dressed and Cotswold stone - it'd certainly get stuff built quicker. As for paints, again, I've got some pots of Humbrol Acrylic for specific colours, but I've tried to make do with what I've already got. It's pleasing to know my work is appreciated and admired. As I've no styrene strips, I cut my own last night for the ridge tiles - I cut a 6mm strip of 10thou, scoring at 3mm before I cut the strip out, then hand bent it to 90 degrees. Then I needed some thin strip for the ridge bits, so cut out some 1/32" strips (sorry for mixing measurements, but this was the smallest measurement on my ruler) and cut them into smaller bits. I was going to photo document the process, but my wife wanted the camera last night I wouldn't say you can't match me - without flattering myself I'd like to think we're on a par - I've only been at this for about 12 months (making model buildings) and that's only after seeing Iain Robinson's blog - before that I was quite pleased with building papers I tell you what I won't be able to bodge without the real thing - and that's the guttering - I definitely need some 2mm half round for that - and that means a trip to the model shop I think your thread has been a masterclass, and the result incredibly lifelike. The rooves (roofs) on my buildings are removable, and in seriously thinking of redoing them as the next project after the Barnum coach. I used scale scenes paper initially because it was faster. Since then I've found that this hobby has rebuilt my concentration span which had been lost over the years because of my jobs working on the internet etc. There's no doubt that I'll be referring to your thread when I make a start. Cheers Jason Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
freebs Posted January 19, 2014 Author Share Posted January 19, 2014 (edited) <p>Hello guys, hope you've had a great weekend.</p><p> </p><p> </p><p>Well, I've nearly finished the Goods Shed - painted up the roof, but then after a comment SWMBO made, and following my own observations of the tiled roofs around the area, realised that the slates were too, b;lue, so overpained with a greyer mix, giving it another dose of drybrushing.</p><p> </p><p>Rainwater goods were completed using Evergreen 242 half round, with joints/brackets constructed with hand cuts strips of 1/32" 10 thou and glued around with solvent. Once dry these were then trimmed and glued in place on the fascia boards,</p><p> </p><p>Downpipes were made from Plastuct plastic coated wire and brackets made from the good old twisty wire technique. </p><p> </p><p>Finally, for now, I decided that the stone work wasn't quite right, so gave it a wash of black acrylic, immediately dabbing it off with a kitchen towel, The photos here aren't that great , but I think it now has the air of soot blackened stone I'm after.</p><p> </p><p>I also gave the base a bit of attention with some ash ballast glued down with pva. It still needs a lot of work as I haven't yet fixed the model down onto it, being still reluctant to commit it down to glue <img class="bbc_emoticon" src="http://www.rmweb.co.uk/community/public/style_emoticons/default/smile3.gif" title=" :)" /></p><p> </p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p> </p><p> </p><p>and finally, here are a couple of shots of it in roughly situ on the layout:</p><p> </p><p></p><p> </p><p>I added in the waiting room here for a bit of extra effect and to show a possible future long shot.</p><p> </p><p> </p><p></p><p> </p><p> </p><p>I've been reading a lot of really good threads just recently and am particularly inspired by Greenfield, Bacup, Eastwood Town and most recently the immense Kirkby Luneside thread. The trackwork has made me really ashamed of my amateurish Peco code 100, but I've come to the understanding with myself that I'm just going to have to make the track look as good as it can in this form, as after all - it's not an exhibition layout, nor indeed is it the prototypical location model that is just so superbly recreated on the Bacup layout by Jason (sandside), but it's a fun layout, conceived originally with the idea of playing trains with my kids. I've kind of got carried away with the modelling, as I could have so easily used the vintage Hornby station building and plastic platforms, and to be honest I've really enjoyed it - THAT's what's got me back into the hobby in a big way. I'd never paid much attention to the track before, not even been aware that code 100 stuff is out of scale.I thought I was upgrading by using Peco track instead of Hornby <img class="bbc_emoticon" src="http://www.rmweb.co.uk/community/public/style_emoticons/default/wink3.gif" title=" ;)" /></p><p> </p><p>Anyway, hey ho - the SMP/ C&L track is for another layout, when I've more money/spare time and when the kids have left home, unless I win the Lottery....</p><p> </p><p>What I have gained from Physicsmans's thread is a useful tip on track spacings around curves, which has made me rip up the statiin straight, the double track curve out of the station and the back straight and relay it with a 30mm gap between rails on the straight and 40mm gap between rails on curves , with the result that the exit from the station looks a lot neater now than it did. It's still a bit scrappy, but most of it will be hidden in a tunnel, so there will just be the entrance tracks to work on. I've started work on respacing and straightening the back straight this evening, but got called in.</p><p> </p><p>The aim for this coming week is to get the loops connected up again and at least one electrical connection made so I can run trains again. Then the task is to get each section of track wired up with droppers to connect to a bus wire before turning attention on an additional 2 or 3 lines. </p><p> </p><p>The aim is this year to get an operational layout for my son to enjoy, and then start on the scenics.</p><p> </p><p>First objective is to get the station platforms built to house the main station building...</p><p> </p><p>So far I've only managed to relay the curve and </p> *edit* Hmm- why's it gone all html? Edited January 20, 2014 by freebs 11 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Alister_G Posted January 19, 2014 RMweb Gold Share Posted January 19, 2014 The goods shed is looking superb, and I like the amount of space you have for your layout. On the subject of track, take a look (if you haven't already) at Grantham - the Streamliner Years (http://www.rmweb.co.uk/community/index.php?/topic/58826-grantham-the-streamliner-years/). Graham uses Peco 100, but tweaks it to a more prototypical look, which may be an option for you to consider. I have used some of his techniques for Bakewell, and it does make a difference. Cheers mate, Al. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
emt_911 Posted January 19, 2014 Share Posted January 19, 2014 Freebs That shed looks stunning. If that sort of detail is continued on the layout, it will be a masterpiece. I have to agree with Al about the track, Grantham is well worth a look to see what he's done with Peco 100 Duncan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold JCL Posted January 20, 2014 RMweb Gold Share Posted January 20, 2014 That looks really great Lee. You've put a lot of time and effort in it and it shows! If I can ask a related question, you mentioned that the base is covered in ash ballast - is this a commercial product or did you make your own? It looks exactly like the goods yard surface I've been told about at Wainfleet. I've struggled a lot with this and haven't got very far with it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
freebs Posted January 20, 2014 Author Share Posted January 20, 2014 That looks really great Lee. You've put a lot of time and effort in it and it shows! If I can ask a related question, you mentioned that the base is covered in ash ballast - is this a commercial product or did you make your own? It looks exactly like the goods yard surface I've been told about at Wainfleet. I've struggled a lot with this and haven't got very far with it. It IS a commercial product - available from lnrmodels at £5 per half kilo plus postage and packing (It's from my ash bin - finely sieved using a tea strainer which cost me £1 from Morrisons, just don't tell the wife I use the best teaspoons from the cutlery drawer to spread it on the glue ) 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Classsix T Posted January 20, 2014 Share Posted January 20, 2014 Hi freebs, new here but must say, this is super modelling (duh). I'd not worry a jot about using proprietary code100 track if I were you, the eye is automatically drawn to the superb buildings and not to the intricacies of the permanent way, I on the other hand, have just sleeper spaced less than two yards of Streamline and barely retained my sanity, but then I won't have structures of your calibre to detract the observer! Keep on keeping on, C6T. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Iain C Robinson Posted January 22, 2014 Share Posted January 22, 2014 As my noble colleagues on here have already said, the shed is looking fantastic. I particularly like the way it looms prototypically from the "future long shot"...proof that you have got the massing and the colours absolutely right. I know a lot of the structures in Huddersfield used Blaenau slates... as I have recently been sifting through the record books of the Fotty and Bowydd mines in Blaenau Ff. I know, I need to get out more...These, as your good lady suggested, would be slightly more grey than blue, so that would fit in perfectly. Incidentally, on the original architects drawings for the Risborough shed, of which this is a second cousin, the spec was for "Bangor Countess" slates, which in your area would be all wrong as they are purple...so good call Mrs Freebs! Superb modelling, as always! cheers, Iain Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jaz Posted January 29, 2014 Share Posted January 29, 2014 (edited) I think you said your building is generic and you need some platform covers.... would this help, he is doing 1960s pictures http://www.rmweb.co.uk/community/index.php?/topic/79414-pghs-photographs-of-british-railways-from-c1960/page-2&do=findComment&comment=1257873 and it made me think of you Edited January 29, 2014 by Jaz Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nigelb Posted January 29, 2014 Share Posted January 29, 2014 Hi Freebs i would love to add my admiration for the shed it is awe some apart from still missing the cat lol (joke) really exceptional modeling mate Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
freebs Posted January 29, 2014 Author Share Posted January 29, 2014 Thanks for those Jaz, I used to live in Oldham, but Mumps station was a shadow of that view - hardly anything but a platform by the time I saw it. In fact it's only just been pulled down. Oldham, like Dewsbury used to have, if I remember rightly, 3 stations, but now thanks to the Metrolink tram, it has none. Nigel - thank you - still working on it though! (although it's in stasis due to other commitments) 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andrew P Posted January 30, 2014 Share Posted January 30, 2014 (edited) Hi Lee, enough said already, just found the link in the Lounge and came to page 1, read it and jumped to the last page, and now I can see what I've been missing I going back to read it all when I get in from Club tonight. That building roof is really something. I've always used Code 100 track in the past on my Exhibition layouts and had many favorable comments at shows saying it looks fine scale, NOW I KNOW IT DOESN'T but with good ballasting it can look very good. I will be back later and well done on a great project. Andy Edited January 30, 2014 by Andrew P Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
freebs Posted January 30, 2014 Author Share Posted January 30, 2014 Thanks Andrew. Nice to have you along. I've been at it for 3 years now, and this is as far as I've got. Hopefully this year will be the year of scenery. Never mind teasing Jeff about Gr**ss on KL, I'd just like to get the track finished! Oh, and about ballasting, I've seen so many layouts using Peco, where there's still about 2mm or so sleeper showing above the ballast layer, and that just doesn't look right Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jaz Posted February 2, 2014 Share Posted February 2, 2014 (edited) I'm sorry I forgot to say HAPPY BIRTHDAY, so a belated H A P P Y B I R T H D A Y Edited February 2, 2014 by Jaz Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
freebs Posted February 2, 2014 Author Share Posted February 2, 2014 Thanks Jaz. Definitely NOT 40 today, no siree.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jaz Posted February 3, 2014 Share Posted February 3, 2014 So did you decide what train to buy with the money? Or is half the fun in deciding? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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