RMweb Premium melmerby Posted July 22, 2021 RMweb Premium Share Posted July 22, 2021 14 hours ago, pH said: It seems to be this company: https://www.railexplorers.net/explorer-options If you click on ‘Explorers’ on that page, it shows the different vehicles available, and says that they can be coupled together. Of their locations, I’d guess it’s either Cooperstown or in the Catskills. I thought it might be them as there are pictures of coupled vehicles in some of their promo material. No idea of the location. 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post montyburns56 Posted July 22, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted July 22, 2021 4-SUB at Manchester Victoria 1980 by Martyn Hilbert 21 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gibbo675 Posted July 22, 2021 Share Posted July 22, 2021 22 minutes ago, montyburns56 said: 4-SUB at Manchester Victoria 1980 by Martyn Hilbert Hi Monty, Interesting that the brake handles of the wagons are pinned down, I wonder if the unit was un-braked and this was done before descending Miles Platting Bank ? Gibbo. 1 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium melmerby Posted July 22, 2021 RMweb Premium Share Posted July 22, 2021 15 minutes ago, Gibbo675 said: Hi Monty, Interesting that the brake handles of the wagons are pinned down, I wonder if the unit was un-braked and this was done before descending Miles Platting Bank ? Gibbo. It says they are about to gingerly decend Miles Platting on the way to scrapping at Horwich, although having stopped for a hot box on the unit 1 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LMS2968 Posted July 22, 2021 Share Posted July 22, 2021 It's at the bottom of Miles Platting. That's Victoria East Junction box on the far left. 3 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wickham Green too Posted July 22, 2021 Share Posted July 22, 2021 4647 was withdrawn in April 1976 - so where had it been hiding in the meantime ? Unlike a number of its brethren it didn't give up it's Open Second Trailer for a reformed 4EPB unit though many were reformed at Horwich and, no doubt a good few would have got there via Manchester Victoria ......... they had, of course, been a familiar sight at 'the other' Victoria. Yes, It's hauled as unbraked as it had air brakes when operational ( the wagons, of course, are vac-braked ) ......... even the Southern worked units to and from Eastleigh unbraked - though they had Westinghouse fitted locos available. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold The Pilotman Posted July 22, 2021 RMweb Gold Share Posted July 22, 2021 (edited) 1 hour ago, LMS2968 said: It's at the bottom of Miles Platting. That's Victoria East Junction box on the far left. And some of the bobbies are copping the unit by the look of it. Edited July 22, 2021 by Western Aviator 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
montyburns56 Posted July 23, 2021 Share Posted July 23, 2021 Possibly not that rare, but interesting anyway... Tolcarne Triangle 1963 by F A Haynes 11 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
hmrspaul Posted July 23, 2021 Share Posted July 23, 2021 23 hours ago, Gibbo675 said: Hi Monty, Interesting that the brake handles of the wagons are pinned down, I wonder if the unit was un-braked and this was done before descending Miles Platting Bank ? Gibbo. I wonder if this is the same van https://PaulBartlett.zenfolio.com/brvanplanked/e3713620a taken at Horwich and with a lot of writing in similar places, but apparently expected to work from Motherwell to Horwich. Paul 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ianmacc Posted July 23, 2021 Share Posted July 23, 2021 1 hour ago, montyburns56 said: Possibly not that rare, but interesting anyway... Tolcarne Triangle 1963 by F A Haynes I thought at first that was the what became class 21 variant. That would have been rare!! What became 22s and warships would have got cosy like that relatively frequently. 1 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold TheSignalEngineer Posted July 24, 2021 RMweb Gold Share Posted July 24, 2021 (edited) Who put the screen on the wrong way round? They did at least get both sides the same. Chathill, Northumberland, 05/06/2021 Edited April 10, 2022 by TheSignalEngineer Pictures restored 4 13 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jonny777 Posted July 24, 2021 Author Share Posted July 24, 2021 On 22/07/2021 at 20:54, Wickham Green too said: 4647 was withdrawn in April 1976 - so where had it been hiding in the meantime ? Micheldever apparently. The unit arrived at Horwich on 12 Sep 1980. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gibbo675 Posted July 24, 2021 Share Posted July 24, 2021 2 hours ago, TheSignalEngineer said: Who put the screen on the wrong way round? They did at least get both sides the same. Chathill, Northumberland, 05/06/2021 Sealink perhaps ? 1 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
montyburns56 Posted July 24, 2021 Share Posted July 24, 2021 56126 - Wigan Springs Branch 1999 9 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold TheSignalEngineer Posted July 24, 2021 RMweb Gold Share Posted July 24, 2021 1 hour ago, Gibbo675 said: Sealink perhaps ? Nah! They would have one the right way round. 1 2 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wickham Green too Posted July 24, 2021 Share Posted July 24, 2021 Were they both authorised by the College of Arms ? 1 4 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold TheSignalEngineer Posted July 25, 2021 RMweb Gold Share Posted July 25, 2021 11 hours ago, Wickham Green too said: Were they both authorised by the College of Arms ? It's a Trade Mark rather than a crest. Registration is in the name of the Secretary of State for Transport I believe. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael Hodgson Posted July 25, 2021 Share Posted July 25, 2021 2 hours ago, TheSignalEngineer said: Registration is in the name of the Secretary of State for Transport I believe. The question must be asked ... Will the Right Honourable Gentleman explain why my constituents' station name board doesn't even get the right crest ? It's always the fault of whichever politicians are currently in office ! 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gibbo675 Posted July 25, 2021 Share Posted July 25, 2021 Hi Folks, The first few seconds shew a BG being hauled by a single HST power car. Gibbo. 8 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
seraphim Posted July 25, 2021 Share Posted July 25, 2021 The BG is a barrier van; HST has fixed-head couplers, and no side buffers. The van allows the PC to be recovered from the rear by a standard loco should the need arise. This formation was insisted on for some years due to the unreliability of HST PCs in the later " Valenta" era. 1 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
montyburns56 Posted July 25, 2021 Share Posted July 25, 2021 Droitwich Spa 1989 by Dave Gomersall 10 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wickham Green too Posted July 25, 2021 Share Posted July 25, 2021 2 hours ago, seraphim said: The BG is a barrier van; HST has fixed-head couplers, and no side buffers. The van allows the PC to be recovered from the rear by a standard loco should the need arise. This formation was insisted on for some years due to the unreliability of HST PCs in the later " Valenta" era. Yet the Power Car carries something a little simpler to permit recovery from the sharp end - presumably that's always been a more likely necessity !!?! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
DK123GWR Posted July 25, 2021 Share Posted July 25, 2021 26 minutes ago, Wickham Green too said: Yet the Power Car carries something a little simpler to permit recovery from the sharp end - presumably that's always been a more likely necessity !!?! It would be if it were running as a set. At any rate, requiring a barrier vehicle 'in front' of the power car when running alone would make sighting signals (or anything else) very interesting indeed. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wickham Green too Posted July 26, 2021 Share Posted July 26, 2021 Depends on your barrier vehicle, of course - I can think of plenty which had no bodywork ......... but could a simple coupler bar not have been devised for the rear end ? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium melmerby Posted July 26, 2021 RMweb Premium Share Posted July 26, 2021 On 25/07/2021 at 14:23, Gibbo675 said: Hi Folks, The first few seconds shew a BG being hauled by a single HST power car. Gibbo. At 39:10 is a Eurostar set being towed. 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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