Prototype for everything corner.

[Rich_F]

From someone I follow on Flickr...

 

Wickham Trolley at ICI Wilton Works. Yes you can run a full size flat wagon behind your Wickham trolley 😆

 

 

Edited February 14, 2023 by Weeny Works

[Wickham Green too]

6 hours ago, Reorte said:

Definitely looks odd that, in some ways one for the "when the real thing looks like a model" thread, ...

Yep, looks like someone's sleeve has caught that damned finial AGAIN !

[JN]

21 hours ago, Weeny Works said:

From someone I follow on Flickr...

 

Wickham Trolley at ICI Wilton Works. Yes you can run a full size flat wagon behind your Wickham trolley 😆

 

 

This might also be good for the 'when the real thing looks like a model' thread!

[03060]

Run out of time to finish weathering your VGAs before the exhibition begins ?

 

 

Photo by Robert Cutter.

[melmerby]

Having trouble getting your building kit square?

 

 

(Alcester High Street)

[newbryford]

A lesser spotted Southern 5MT..

 

Pic from my mate today. (Working Hull-Carnforth after a filming job)

 

[Michael Hodgson]

On 13/02/2023 at 23:12, duncan said:

Maybe the spirit level was level, but the engine wasn't !!

So what's the track gradient in this depot?

[Cowley 47521]

10 hours ago, newbryford said:

A lesser spotted Southern 5MT..

 

Pic from my mate today. (Working Hull-Carnforth after a filming job)

 

With Bulleid coaches too. Must be a long time since any of those were on the main line?

[russ p]

1 hour ago, Cowley 47521 said:

With Bulleid coaches too. Must be a long time since any of those were on the main line?

 

If they are on the mainline they have no cantrail stripes 

If they are trying to recreate a southern train for a film seems odd they would go to the trouble of finding actual southern coaches then completely messing up the loco 

[Reorte]

48 minutes ago, russ p said:

 

If they are on the mainline they have no cantrail stripes

Fairly sure that's the loop at Hellifield, so it's on the main line.

[Cowley 47521]

24 minutes ago, Reorte said:

Fairly sure that's the loop at Hellifield, so it's on the main line.

Yes they’ve definitely been out and about on the main line:

 

edit - Actually where have the coaches come from? Are they from the Bluebell Railway maybe?

Edited February 17, 2023 by Cowley 47521

[melmerby]

Ahhhh. Bunnies in a field🙂

[newbryford]

42 minutes ago, Reorte said:

Fairly sure that's the loop at Hellifield, so it's on the main line.

 

Yes - the down goods loop. 

The usual watering spot for WCRC going west or northbound.

[Nick C]

1 hour ago, Cowley 47521 said:

Yes they’ve definitely been out and about on the main line:

 

edit - Actually where have the coaches come from? Are they from the Bluebell Railway maybe?

Yes, they are from the Bluebell - 3 Bulleids and a Mk1 RMB.

 

I found another video here:

 

[Wickham Green too]

1 hour ago, Nick C said:

Yes, they are from the Bluebell - 3 Bulleids and a Mk1 RMB. ...

Sounds like a very expensive day for the film company ...... and a nice bit of income for the Bluebell ( and Alleleys p'raps ? ).

[simon b]

Admittedly a us prototype, but mainline gauntlet tracks installed in the 21st century.

 

 

 

[luckymucklebackit]

Something a little different for a class 40 front end?

 

Photo posted with permission of Jonathan Dixon who posted this on Facebook.

The loco is 40127 taken at Poulton-Le-Fylde on 15 August 1975 sporting two types of headcode.  A later poster said that the nose end doors complete with discs apparently were fitted at Reddish in 1976 from withdrawn 40021 Iverrnia, however that creates a date discrepancy.

 

Jim

Edited February 19, 2023 by luckymucklebackit

[nigb55009]

There is a photo in " Class 40s at work" of 40127 at Llandudno. Also inthe photo are three other class 40s.

One with disc headcode, one split box and one full headcode. Four different headcodes in one photo. I`m

afraid I no longer have the book so I can`t give the loco numbers.

[melmerby]

4 hours ago, simon b said:

Admittedly a us prototype, but mainline gauntlet tracks installed in the 21st century.

 

 

 

No other way to get floor level entry to passenger cars with wide freight vehicles.

I think there are some instances in Europe (Germany?) where they have adopted the same approach.

 

Note those 45XX locos (Bombadier ALP-45DP) are bi modes with dual voltage OHE and diesel power.

[Michael Hodgson]

Interesting approach. 

 

It's an inconvenience If they accidentally misroute a passenger train to the wrong track, but it's going to be expensive if they route a wide freight train too close to the platform - especially if there are litigious passengers waiting on that platform at the time!  Do they rely on signallers knoowing what's what or do they have some form of automatic fail safe system to prevent this?  Perhaps something like fitting the passenger stock (only) with a transponder that has to be detected to set the route to the platform?

[melmerby]

Niederkaufungen Mitte in Germany is triple gauntlet so LRT vehicles are switched left or right heavy rail trains go down the middle.

 

Not sure why you need two platforms on a single line!

[melmerby]

1 hour ago, Michael Hodgson said:

it's going to be expensive if they route a wide freight train too close to the platform

Bit more than expensive, I would guess.

The freights are already very close before getting routed even closer. I can see bits of loco being removed, as the platform edge disintegrates.

 

On that NJT one the passenger service is routed closer, the default route is straight on for wide trains.

I notice it is not unusual to do it the other way, straight on through the platform, divert away for wide trains.

 

 

[Michael Hodgson]

33 minutes ago, melmerby said:

Niederkaufungen Mitte in Germany is triple gauntlet so LRT vehicles are switched left or right heavy rail trains go down the middle.

 

Not sure why you need two platforms on a single line!

That's a new one on me.

 

But it could be necessary if the stock only has doors on one side à la Glasgow SUbway, and it gets turned on a loop at both ends, with the result that all the doors are on the other side on the return.  More probably it's just easier to explain to the passengers that trains for this direction run from this platform and for the other direction you need to use the other platform (especially if that's how you signpost all your other stations).

 

Three-way gautletting might make sense if you could at least run two narrow trains past one another, but there would need to be a wide enough space for a six foot - here even the narrow platform tracks overlap so it isn't a double track despite its six rails.

 

 

[Nick C]

26 minutes ago, Michael Hodgson said:

But it could be necessary if the stock only has doors on one side à la Glasgow SUbway, and it gets turned on a loop at both ends, with the result that all the doors are on the other side on the return. 

They do only have doors on one side: https://commons.m.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Haltestelle_Niederkaufungen_Mitte_01.JPG

 

Quite common on trams on the continent, usually with ballon loops at each terminal - and generally makes sense. Except in Belgium, where it gets silly:

 

 

(Incidentally, that entire channel is pretty much "prototype for everything"...

Edited February 19, 2023 by Nick C

[Michael Hodgson]

1 hour ago, Nick C said:

They do only have doors on one side: https://commons.m.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Haltestelle_Niederkaufungen_Mitte_01.JPG

 

Quite common on trams on the continent, usually with ballon loops at each terminal - and generally makes sense. Except in Belgium, where it gets silly:

 

OK then, so it's a prototype for a roundy-roundy layout  😁