RMweb Gold Enterprisingwestern Posted March 14, 2014 RMweb Gold Share Posted March 14, 2014 Main reason for considering using them here has more to do with the P4 "doing it all right" ethos than a thinking that they are needed. Careful Mark, you're making unnecessary work for yourself if you don't watch out. Mike. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Indomitable026 Posted March 14, 2014 Share Posted March 14, 2014 Careful Mark, you're making unnecessary work for yourself if you don't watch out. Mike. He'll be putting scale diesel engines in is loco's next Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Mark Forrest Posted March 14, 2014 Author RMweb Premium Share Posted March 14, 2014 He'll be putting scale diesel engines in is loco's next Now there's a thought Careful Mark, you're making unnecessary work for yourself if you don't watch out. Yes, you are probably right; but in an odd way that is sort of the whole point of this little side project. It doesn't need anything like at much stock as BCB and most of it will be modified RTR rather than the kit builds I've focused on for FL and BCB. My logic is that the time I save building (and painting) kits can be put into other fiddly or more technically challenging elements - while I decide whether these are things I want to include in the stock for WLL. So hopefully there is method in my madness!? 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
johndon Posted March 14, 2014 Share Posted March 14, 2014 I've currently got a mix of spring and fixed buffers in my P4 stock. I do find, as has been mentioned that they are sometime a bit to springy and the wagon bounces away from the loco when being propelled. I've got a couple of bogie wagons with fixed buffers and they have no problems being propelled through point work albeit they are fairly large radius turnouts... John 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Mark Forrest Posted March 19, 2014 Author RMweb Premium Share Posted March 19, 2014 Thought I'd have a go at signalling the layout, taking some guidance from this photo on Flickr: This is what I have so far, not added any of the ground signals yet. The area modelling is from the left of the level crossing to the end of the siding with the stop boards. Think I have also identified a suitable building for the back right corner of the layout, which I need to mock up and try for size. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Mark Forrest Posted March 23, 2014 Author RMweb Premium Share Posted March 23, 2014 The level crossing won't be on the scenic section of the layout, but I wanted to suggest that it is there. The obvious answer seemed to be to have the back of some buildings running perpendicular to the railway. I thought a pub might be good, after all, every good layout needs a pub. After a bit of Googling I decided upon the Hatherton Arms in Bloxwich: The Hatherton Arms by Boyce Duprey, on Flickr This seemed to be about the right size and has some extensions to the rear which make the back of it interesting. I worked out a few basic dimensions using Google maps and guessing from photos and put together a very rough mock up from foamboard and card. Initially it was placed square to the backscene but space was a bit tight and it didn't look right. Cutting off one end at a slight angle helped though and I think this looks ok. 4 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Indomitable026 Posted March 23, 2014 Share Posted March 23, 2014 The level crossing won't be on the scenic section of the layout, but I wanted to suggest that it is there. The obvious answer seemed to be to have the back of some buildings running perpendicular to the railway. I thought a pub might be good, after all, every good layout needs a pub. After a bit of Googling I decided upon the Hatherton Arms in Bloxwich: The Hatherton Arms by Boyce Duprey, on Flickr This seemed to be about the right size and has some extensions to the rear which make the back of it interesting. I worked out a few basic dimensions using Google maps and guessing from photos and put together a very rough mock up from foamboard and card. Initially it was placed square to the backscene but space was a bit tight and it didn't look right. WP_20140323_009.jpg Cutting off one end at a slight angle helped though and I think this looks ok. WP_20140323_020.jpg WP_20140323_022.jpg Pub - good choice Do we need to audit it - to check for suitability? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Mark Forrest Posted March 23, 2014 Author RMweb Premium Share Posted March 23, 2014 Do we need to audit it - to check for suitability? It'd be rude not to, although in the images of it on Google maps it looks a bit rough! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Indomitable026 Posted March 23, 2014 Share Posted March 23, 2014 It'd be rude not to, although in the images of it on Google maps it looks a bit rough! great stuff - I'll bring my own glass and sausage rolls Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Mark Forrest Posted March 30, 2014 Author RMweb Premium Share Posted March 30, 2014 Thought it might be a good idea to get some track down: 9 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MartinWales Posted March 30, 2014 Share Posted March 30, 2014 Now it's coming together Mark! Keep us updated! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Mark Forrest Posted March 30, 2014 Author RMweb Premium Share Posted March 30, 2014 Now it's coming together Mark! Keep us updated! Will do. Using the Exactoscale track bases is certainly quicker than the ply sleepers/individual chairs I used on Foundry Lane! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Mark Forrest Posted March 31, 2014 Author RMweb Premium Share Posted March 31, 2014 I'm considering whether to use a short length of concrete sleeper, flat bottom rail track at the left hand end of the layout I think this is a good way of making it clear to anyone looking at the layout that this is the mainline through the scene rather than another siding. The mixture of flat bottom and bull head rail seems to match Bloxwich too. and also here: https://flic.kr/p/aJidpB 6 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wayne 37901 Posted March 31, 2014 Share Posted March 31, 2014 Marc, Looking good, it seems to be progressing well and at a steady pace. I like the look of the concrete sleepered track along the front, it makes it clear that it's the mainline. Look forward to seeing more. Cheers Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RBE Posted March 31, 2014 Share Posted March 31, 2014 I would certainly do that. Small layouts are often hard to tell what their story is by looking at them. Visual cues such as a concrete sleepered lines for a main make a big difference. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
dave_long Posted March 31, 2014 Share Posted March 31, 2014 What no Colin Craig FB track Mark? Looking good. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Mark Forrest Posted April 1, 2014 Author RMweb Premium Share Posted April 1, 2014 What no Colin Craig FB track Mark? Looking good. Thanks Dave. I did think about using some of Colin's track instead of the concrete sleeper bit that I've done. I need to use a length of it (BR1 baseplates) for one platform road on WLL, so it'd be a chance to practice folding them up! Flat bottom for the turnouts was never really something I considered, the point work at Bloxwich was still bullhead until at least '84 so I think I can get away with using it Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Mark Forrest Posted April 1, 2014 Author RMweb Premium Share Posted April 1, 2014 Another parcel from C&L arrived today, containing the rest of the parts I had forgotten to order previously - ordered Sunday evening and delivered in today's post I'm using some of the Exactoscale brass chairs on the last couple of sleepers on each line which crosses into the fiddle yard for added strength and durability. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Mark Forrest Posted April 5, 2014 Author RMweb Premium Share Posted April 5, 2014 Made a bit more progress this evening, until distracted by a glass (or two) of Rioja: 5 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Indomitable026 Posted April 6, 2014 Share Posted April 6, 2014 Made a bit more progress this evening, until distracted by a glass (or two) of Rioja: WP_20140405_001.jpg WP_20140405_005.jpg WP_20140405_007.jpg WP_20140405_009.jpg Who's been playing at delivering materials by rail... Really nice job mate Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Mark Forrest Posted April 6, 2014 Author RMweb Premium Share Posted April 6, 2014 Who's been playing at delivering materials by rail... Thanks. Yes, one of my OBAs has been temporarily transferred to the engineer's fleet as a ZDA "Bass" b) 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Mark Forrest Posted April 8, 2014 Author RMweb Premium Share Posted April 8, 2014 Current state of the point work as of this evening: Tonight's distraction has been to re-wheel this Vi Trains 47 (now just need a spare week to fit all the detailing bits that came with it!): 8 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Indomitable026 Posted April 9, 2014 Share Posted April 9, 2014 You're gonna cut all the webs out between the sleepers ??? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Mark Forrest Posted April 9, 2014 Author RMweb Premium Share Posted April 9, 2014 You're gonna cut all the webs out between the sleepers ??? Dunno; TBH hadn't really thought about that yet. Not sure what we did on BCB, was totally immersed in wagon building at that stage of the project!!!! Any advice from those who have used these products before greatly appreciated. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RBE Posted April 9, 2014 Share Posted April 9, 2014 (edited) The ballast will be deep enough to cover them. Thats why they are modelled at half the sleeper depth. Removing them would be a proper ballache. Edited April 9, 2014 by RBE 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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