RMweb Premium Mark Forrest Posted November 26, 2014 Author RMweb Premium Share Posted November 26, 2014 I was chatting to Johnny Gringo about the layout over lunch at Warley, specifically my plans for the low relief buildings along the backscene. My current thinking (and this is, as you'll know if you've been following this thread, subject to change) is something similar to these buildings which stand beside the canal in Rugeley. The ATS garage will most likely become "Fryers Lane Tyre & Exhaust Centre". Next step is to mock these up in foamboard to see how they it looks; although I'm currently distracted by Bogie Bolster Es for BCB, having accidentally bought two more old Lima wagons over the weekend. 9 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andrew P Posted November 26, 2014 Share Posted November 26, 2014 Looks like that will be a nice addition Mark, go for it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
class"66" Posted November 28, 2014 Share Posted November 28, 2014 Looks rather interesting Mark.. cheers neil. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Mark Forrest Posted November 30, 2014 Author RMweb Premium Share Posted November 30, 2014 Replacing the canal with the rear siding, gives something like this: There is probably another separate building at the right hand end within the walls which will be part of the garage. Also, just trying this for size. 8 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium 2ManySpams Posted November 30, 2014 RMweb Premium Share Posted November 30, 2014 Think I preferred the canal... (let me know if you need any more motivational consultancy assistance) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium 2ManySpams Posted November 30, 2014 RMweb Premium Share Posted November 30, 2014 On a more serious and hopefully constructive note... Have a think about that far left gable end (edit: the one at the back not the one with the cargo wagon ). At the moment it looks almost flat to the backscene with hardly a hint of roof being possible. It will be difficult to convince the eye it's part of a deeper building when the backscene is finished. IMO it will stand out like a sore thumb in side-on photos. I'd have a think about a boundary wall or flat-roofed building instead. Less obvious. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Mark Forrest Posted December 2, 2014 Author RMweb Premium Share Posted December 2, 2014 On a more serious and hopefully constructive note... Have a think about that far left gable end (edit: the one at the back not the one with the cargo wagon ). At the moment it looks almost flat to the backscene with hardly a hint of roof being possible. It will be difficult to convince the eye it's part of a deeper building when the backscene is finished. IMO it will stand out like a sore thumb in side-on photos. I'd have a think about a boundary wall or flat-roofed building instead. Less obvious. Good point and I should have learnt my lesson as there is a similar structure on Foundry Lane which never really blended with the backscene as well as I would have liked. Maybe something more like: The horizontal line of a wall also makes it more obvious that the siding is sloping down as it leaves the scene (which I like). I've also moved everything along towards that end a little, shortening the length of that wall; and extended length of the building behind the OBA for better proportions. All of which leaves me this area to play with for the back street garage/tyre & exhaust centre: Moving the other gable end into the scene a bit and adding a Portakabin helps to hide the exit to the rear fiddle yard: There will probably be an access road to this warehouse crossing the rear siding too; another nod to Bloxwich where the line into the Imperial Smelter works crossed Fryers Road. 9 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium 2ManySpams Posted December 2, 2014 RMweb Premium Share Posted December 2, 2014 That looks better. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium wagonbasher Posted December 7, 2014 RMweb Premium Share Posted December 7, 2014 Good point and I should have learnt my lesson as there is a similar structure on Foundry Lane which never really blended with the backscene as well as I would have liked. Maybe something more like: 15930495242_81061133f9_o.jpg The horizontal line of a wall also makes it more obvious that the siding is sloping down as it leaves the scene (which I like). I've also moved everything along towards that end a little, shortening the length of that wall; and extended length of the building behind the OBA for better proportions. All of which leaves me this area to play with for the back street garage/tyre & exhaust centre: 15743889300_47b45017f0_o.jpg Moving the other gable end into the scene a bit and adding a Portakabin helps to hide the exit to the rear fiddle yard: 15929437931_822e0ce6a2_o.jpg There will probably be an access road to this warehouse crossing the rear siding too; another nod to Bloxwich where the line into the Imperial Smelter works crossed Fryers Road. Is that a portecabin... Looks like a police camera van A Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Mark Forrest Posted December 10, 2014 Author RMweb Premium Share Posted December 10, 2014 Is that a portecabin... Looks like a police camera van A Yes, suppose it does, a little. It's the Knightwing kit - a bit basic, but with a few added details it shouldn't look too bad, that is if I decide to use it. Finally decided on the design for the warehouse building, have gone for this, kit bashed from a Pikestuff "Distribution Center" kit. I've added the brick to the base partly to increase the height of what is really a HO kit but mainly because in my own observation that seems to be the way in which those built in the 70s and 80s were constructed, while those with cladding all the way to the ground seems to be a feature of more recent builds. It won't be the bright blue colour; I'm thinking more of a brown, possibly a bit faded. There'll be space within for one VAA/VBA/VDA type van, with siding length for two more (or one Cargowaggon) to be unloaded outside before a gate across the siding at the boundary. 9 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Mark Forrest Posted December 22, 2014 Author RMweb Premium Share Posted December 22, 2014 Nothing exciting to show as progress on the layout, although I have slowly been adding dropper wires. Meanwhile, while looking through Geoff Dowling's flickr photostream, I noticed this view of the level crossing at Bloxwich from a slightly earlier era: Blotting out Bloxwich by geoff7918, on Flickr 8 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Worsdell forever Posted December 22, 2014 RMweb Gold Share Posted December 22, 2014 Ah, so there will be steam on this layout... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Mark Forrest Posted December 22, 2014 Author RMweb Premium Share Posted December 22, 2014 Ah, so there will be steam on this layout... Unfortunately, as I've singled the line through my version, the steamy thing is on the track which isn't there, so no steam on this one. It wouldn't look out of place on BCB though would it.... 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Enterprisingwestern Posted December 22, 2014 RMweb Gold Share Posted December 22, 2014 Ah, so there will be steam on this layout... Go away. Mike. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Worsdell forever Posted December 22, 2014 RMweb Gold Share Posted December 22, 2014 Go away. Mike. No. Paul. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Mark Forrest Posted December 26, 2014 Author RMweb Premium Share Posted December 26, 2014 I cleared some of the junk off the layout earlier, here's a photo of the current state of things: Fingers crossed, might get the rest of the dropper wires added over the weekend. 16 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Mark Forrest Posted December 27, 2014 Author RMweb Premium Share Posted December 27, 2014 I'm about half way through the droppers; bored now though so having a tinker with something else (P4ing a Bachmann BR CCT). Here's how I've been doing the droppers; drill a hole approx 1mm diameter, at the centre line of the track: Clean side (and as much possible of bottom) of rail - I'm using steel rail and I've found this stage to be absolutely critical, much more so than when using nickel-silver rail The single core wire I'm using has a coating on it to insulate it, the end needs to have the red coating cleaned off with a file, then bent at a right-angle and tinned with a little solder. It's cored solder, but I've been dunking the end of the wire in some Carrs Orange flux for good measure Wire fed through the hole and positioned under the rail. The coffee stirrer collection comes in handy to hold the wire in position I've been added a splash more of the Carrs Orange then heat from the iron and a little more solder. Where I've got a bit carried away and used too much solder the excess was cleaned from the web of the rail with a burr mounted in a mini-drill. The rest of the wire is then pulled through to lie flat below sleeper level so should be well hidden under the ballast. For comparison, this is one of the etched dropper connectors which I've used in a few places to try them out 4 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Indomitable026 Posted December 27, 2014 Share Posted December 27, 2014 Mark, To clean the bottom of the rail take a thing strip of emery cloth (spelling?) cut to a width less than the gap between the sleepers. Use the cloth to clean the rail like you would dry your crotch with a towel... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Mark Forrest Posted December 27, 2014 Author RMweb Premium Share Posted December 27, 2014 Great tip, thanks for that - although I'm slightly concerned that you've been watching me in the bathroom! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium 2ManySpams Posted December 27, 2014 RMweb Premium Share Posted December 27, 2014 Some great mental pictures there from D and Mark. Thanks both. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Stubby47 Posted December 27, 2014 RMweb Gold Share Posted December 27, 2014 Could have been images of OG... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium 2ManySpams Posted December 27, 2014 RMweb Premium Share Posted December 27, 2014 Could have been images of OG... Got lots of photos of OG thanks. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Stubby47 Posted December 27, 2014 RMweb Gold Share Posted December 27, 2014 Got lots of photos of OG thanks. Not of him with a towel, surely.... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Mark Forrest Posted December 27, 2014 Author RMweb Premium Share Posted December 27, 2014 I like the use of the coffee stirrer, and the general method IVe always tried where practicable to do the droppers before laying the tracks down....but sometimes it isn't practicable, or gets forgot in a rush, so this is very useful I'm a big fan of coffee stirrers, the toolbox always has a good handful of them in there, along with cocktail sticks for the more fiddly bits, seem to be able to find a multitude of uses for them. Yes, agree it is best to do the droppers before fixing the track down. On Foundry Lane where I used C&L chairs (with ply sleepers) I soldered the wire to the rail before threading the chairs on, which working really well. However, this time I got a bit carried away with the track laying, so ended up making a simple job harder than it should have been! 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Mark Forrest Posted December 27, 2014 Author RMweb Premium Share Posted December 27, 2014 Not of him with a towel, surely.... What happens on tour, stays on tour... 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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