JeffP's photos, early 70's and 80's.

[hmrspaul]

That runner with the 03 is an odd one; it's not the normal Conflat L or Lowfit. Is it a Demountable Tank chassis? Very useful to have a high-level shot like this for modelling purposes- thanks.

Yes, pretty certainly a Crosfields tank chassis. The full number is not readable, but TDB74940x is readable. York had a couple of these. TDB749402

 

http://PaulBartlett.zenfolio.com/brdemountable/e99085fa and TDB749411http://PaulBartlett.zenfolio.com/brdemountable/e2e0c027b But I don't think this one is one of those. It is written for Holbeck TMD.

 

Regards

 

Paul

[JeffP]

LOL, you can't win, can you? ..Get a decent pic of the TOP of the wagon, the stupid number's not visible.

[JeffP]

A few of my earliest attempts tonight.

 

Class 81, 81001 ambles through Watford Junction with a mixed freight of short wheelbase wagons. 21/6/74

 

Class 87, 87020 passing through Watford Junction station, 21/6/74

 

Class 55 "Deltic", 55021, "Argyll and Sutherland Highlander" entering Kings Cross with the up Hull Pullman, 21/6/74.

 

Class 50, 50027 passing through Slough at speed, 21/6/74.

 

Class 52, "Western" diesel, 1040, Western Queen" at Plymouth. 23/5/74

 

Brunel's famous bridge at Saltash, behind class 50, 50038, 23/5/74

 

Class 55 "Deltic", 55010, "The King's Own Scottish Borderer",  makes a smokey departure from King's Cross with the down Flying Scotsman, 21/6/74

 

Unidentified Class 55 "Deltic" Doncaster, circa 1975.

Edited to say: I suspect that this is september 1972, pre-tops, the loco being 9004, "Queens Own Highlander".

 

The evening sun highlights class 55 "Deltic" 55013, "The Black watch" as it leaves Doncaster for the south, with the 1905 express to Kings Cross. May 1975.

Edited March 7, 2014 by JeffP

[leopardml2341]

Hello Jeff,

 

Just a thought, the unidentified deltic pic might be earlier than '75 as it appears to have pre-tops numbers?

 

Number '21 at the Cross is a good 'un - Thanks

Edited March 6, 2014 by leopardml2341

[JeffP]

And you are right, I suspect 1972, and the loco is 9004, "Queens own Highlander"...I have found a pic of my best mate, now sadly no longer with us, standing next to the cab. We had taken my little sister to Donny to see off a friend who started uni in Newcastle a week before my sister went to Manchester.

[brushman47544]

Class 52, "Western" diesel, 1056, Western Sultan" at Plymouth. 23/5/74

 

 

Hi Jeff.

 

More superb photos thanks. By enlarging, the Western at Plymouth is D1040 Western Queen. D1056 had the extra cab ventilators under the windscreens.

[JeffP]

Now that's odd....because that's what I thought it was, but my album with the notes in says Sultan.

 

I'll change it, thanks.

[Phil Bullock]

Class 81, 81001 ambles through Watford Junction with a mixed freight of short wheelbase wagons. 21/6/74

 

Hi Jeff

 

Headcode says 1A89 - suspect that's not right as rigid but long wheelbase vans in train - looks like a parcels working to me - PMV & SPVs - 4A89 might be more appropriate

 

More cracking photos, thanks for sharing

 

Cheers

 

Phil

[JeffP]

Just a few odd ones tonight.

 

Just to show that Frodingham did get SOME clean locos, class 46, 46007, looking almost ex-works, rests in the evening sunshine at the west end of the depot, 26/5/75.

 

A couple from Didcot, the trip was yet another Merrymaker, it went to Oxford at Easter, there was hardly anything open, and it was cold and wet. When the return arrived back into the station at Oxford to pick us up, the waiting passengers on the platform cheered.

 

Class 25 passing Didcot on a passenger working.

 

Waterloo, and class 74, 74009 waits to take a parcels service out. 12/4/75

 

Class 33. 33028, outside Waterloo. 12/4/75

 

The BR totem is still visible on class 09, 09005 at Waterloo, 12/4/75

 

two class 74's at Waterloo, 4007/8 awaiting their next duties, 12/4/75

 

Class 33, 33004 at Waterloo, 12/4/75

[Phil Bullock]

Excellent stuff Jeff

 

Never seen as many pictures of Big Eds in the same place at same time

 

Phil

[JeffP]

Yep...Waterloo could be an interesting place.

 

I spent hours on the platforms Easter 1966 watching Bulleid pacifics, Standard fives etc. Cabbed a few.

Sadly, none of my few photos survived.

[jonny777]

A 25 on a passenger train at Didcot?

 

It's a pity the headcode is not visible, but the loco has a recess for a tablet catcher. Weren't they Scottish locos?

 

Maybe it is a returning Merrymaker, or something?  - I am a little flummoxed.

[Pete 75C]

Nice photos. I particularly like the 74s. My own railway career started a wee bit too late to see them in action. I'm not one for wish-list frothing, but they'd be at the top of my list in 4mm/OO. Alas, my kit-building skills are such that it's RTR or bust for me.

[Rivercider]

A 25 on a passenger train at Didcot?

 

It's a pity the headcode is not visible, but the loco has a recess for a tablet catcher. Weren't they Scottish locos?

 

Maybe it is a returning Merrymaker, or something?  - I am a little flummoxed.

Well that is something else I have learned from this thread, I must have seen 25s with the tablet catcher recess before, but never paid any attention.

I now see 7611 - 7623 (25261 - 25273) were built with the recess and went new to Scotland.

They all came back south, in my 1970s spotting books they are all London Midland allocated locos, at Bescot, Toton, Willesden and Springs Branch,

 

cheers  

[Dave47549]

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Removed pointless guff

[jonny777]

Thanks for that info. I'm not quite so confused now.

 

I have blown the image up as best I can and the number looks like 2527?  (maybe 0, 1 or 2 - it is difficult to make out).

 

If I peer very hard at the headcode box, it does appear to be 1E??. I suspect that it must be a Easter dated service from the south coast. Easter Sunday was March 30th that year and the weather map shows a cold Easterly wind, so sympathies to everyone who was out and about trying to enjoy the holiday.

[Phil Bullock]

Absolutely - that's a no heat loco!!!

 

And a single type 2 on a class 1 working was not common, But the passengers on this train were probably not the only ones to suffer - according to the Sulzer type 2 site there was a maintenance staff dispute at this time and all sorts of loco workings were disjointed.

 

Phil

[JeffP]

A few more varied ones tonight.

 

Ranelagh Bridge stabling point, on 27/4/75, finds Western diesel 1045 "Western Viscount" moving off towards Paddington, while a class 50 and a class 47 await their turns.

 

Ranelagh Bridge, class 50, which I believe to be 50043 heads westwards with an express, 27/4/75.

 

Crewe works, and class 40, 40102 is meeting it's end in the scrapyard. 20/12/76

 

Also at Crewe, class 40, 40041 is still very much in use. Sorry about the marks on the negative. 20/12/76.

 

Another classs 40 on Crewe works, this time 40095 is ex-works. 20/12/76

 

The traverser at Crewe works, and class 40, 40095 is being shunted into position by a class 08 works shunter. 20/12/76

 

Viewed across the traverser, at Crewe works, are class 40, 40095, class 47, 47537 and class 50, 50045, plus an unidentified class 47. 20/12/76

 

Under a strange evening sky, class 40, 40041 idles at Crewe, 20/12/76

 

 

[JeffP]

East Midlands again tonight.

 

Derby works, 20/12/76, class 45/1, 45139 is in the foreground,

 

On the same day at Derby, class 08, 08349 has been stripped and is undergoing steam cleaning.

 

Crewe works, 20/12/75, showing a damaged class 47 amongst others. It had been in collision with an HST power car on the Western region.

 

Toton, from the entry road, with the usual allocation, classes 20, 45 and 47.. December 1976.

 

Line up of class 20's at Coalville Manton lane, I believe, 17/4/77, the lads are, l to r, Nick, Terry and Neil, the two younger lads were in my form, year 9 and Terry is Neils elder brother.

 

Coalville again, 17/4/77, showing two class 47's still in the two-tone green livery, 47356 and 47366.

This was the stabling point from which two teenaged lads started up a class 47 and drove it quite a way down the line some six months later.

 

Wath depot, 17/4/77, showing class 76, 76028.

 

Tinsley from the bank behind the shed, with class 56, 56017 in the foreground. 17/4/77.

 

One of Tinsley's three "master-slave" shunters, outside the north end of the depot, class 13, 13002 is still in green livery, while newly built class 56, 56010 is still very clean. 17/04/77

 

This was on one of the trips I used to run for the trainspotters in my year-group, during my early years teaching. I had to limit the numbers since we went by my car, and I wouldn't take money from any of them, they drew lots to see who could go, with preference being given to those who hadn't been on the last one.

 

The trip shown above started at Scunthorpe, and went to: Goole, Doncaster, (shed and works entrance), Knottingley, Wath, Tinsley, Darnall, Rotherwood, Beighton, Westhouses, Shirebrook, Worksop, Barrow Hill, Toton, Leicester and Coalville. We would reckon on over 400 locos!

The lads loved it, not least because my car was a 1974 MkI Escort Mexico!

Edited March 10, 2014 by JeffP

[Removed a/c]

Another great set of pics, thanks for sharing. 

[LNERGE]

I wonder what the Met Camm Pullman was doing at Tinsley?

[HillsideDepot]

LNERGE, on 10 Mar 2014 - 08:38, said:

I wonder what the Met Camm Pullman was doing at Tinsley?

I'm pretty sure it was used as a test coach with new class 56s.

 

Would make for an interesting model - 56+Pullman+MGR.

[fishytrains]

Great photos. Wouldn't be allowed to do a trip like that now with all the rules and regulations!

 

Mike

[JeffP]

LOL...and you might see about 60 locos..........

 

We saw classes 03, 08, 13, 20, 24, 25, 31, 37, 40, 44, 45, 47 55, and 56.

[keefer]

I'm pretty sure it was used as a test coach with new class 56s.

 

Would make for an interesting model - 56+Pullman+MGR.

Is that the one that became lab 14 'wren' ?

 

http://departmentals.com/photo/975427

 

http://80srail.zenfolio.com/p584131236/h2F83482E#h2f83482e