RMweb Premium OnTheBranchline Posted January 19, 2014 RMweb Premium Share Posted January 19, 2014 I have a question. Other than that store in Liverpool, what other stores in the UK deduct the VAT for purchases made overseas? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike at C&M Posted January 19, 2014 Share Posted January 19, 2014 I do, at C&M Models in Carlisle. I would imagine that most, if not all, models shops who are VAT registered within the UK would be able/willing to do the same. There is no harm in asking shops if they will deduct VAT from items sent to overseas countries that are outside the EU. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
brossard Posted January 20, 2014 Share Posted January 20, 2014 The major retailers deduct VAT. Smaller ones may not because they must be registered in order to do so. I have been told that a shop has to have a significant turnover (~75,000 pounds) before being eligible for VAT reg. I am also informed that it's a paperwork work nightmare so the one man band places will struggle. Quite often the Terms and Conditions on the website will say whether VAT is deducted. I tend to avoid those traders who don't deduct VAT, especially those who sell the commodities that can be had almost anywhere (like RTR stock). There are traders who have exclusive product's and in this case, assuming I REALLY want what's on offer, I will suck it up. John Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ian Abel Posted January 20, 2014 Share Posted January 20, 2014 As confirmed above - many do as I have had that experience. Note though: Even if they are also a "bricks and mortar" presence, don't buy from eBay listing of any such stores and expect VAT to be deducted. Due to their agreement with eBay they have to sell for the price listed on "Buy it Now" for example. If the store offers something you want on eBay but ALSO has a non-eBay method of ordering the same thing, choose the latter to get the benefit of VAT deduction... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jpendle Posted March 29, 2014 Share Posted March 29, 2014 I have a question. Other than that store in Liverpool, what other stores in the UK deduct the VAT for purchases made overseas? Osborns Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deltic Posted December 31, 2014 Share Posted December 31, 2014 VAT registered retailers can refund if going outside Europe, there is approved paperwork which is tied to their Quarterly VAT Returns. Individuals need to take care as they maybe worse off if their Country decides to levy Import Tax, instead of paying UK VAT. It has been known for individuals to seek a Refund either on leaving the UK (Customs) or when they arrive home. If Retailers are in doubt then they can contact their nearest HMRC office. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Colin_McLeod Posted December 31, 2014 RMweb Gold Share Posted December 31, 2014 The major retailers deduct VAT. Smaller ones may not because they must be registered in order to do so. I have been told that a shop has to have a significant turnover (~75,000 pounds) before being eligible for VAT reg. I am also informed that it's a paperwork work nightmare so the one man band places will struggle. Quite often the Terms and Conditions on the website will say whether VAT is deducted. I tend to avoid those traders who don't deduct VAT, especially those who sell the commodities that can be had almost anywhere (like RTR stock). There are traders who have exclusive product's and in this case, assuming I REALLY want what's on offer, I will suck it up. John Currently the threshold above which VAT registration is compulsory is £81,000 pa . You can still register for VAT even if your turnover is less than that. If the shop has not registered then the VAT the shop pays on its supplies can't be claimed back. Shops who are not registered for VAT do not charge VAT so there is no VAT to deduct for overseas purchases. The paperwork is quite straight forward, but any trader who can't do it will probably have an accountant to look after the paperwork. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mevaman Posted January 1, 2015 Share Posted January 1, 2015 Kernow Model Rail Centre deduct the VAT for non EU sales (except books and magazines, which are zero rated ). This is automatically done if you order online. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dazzler Fan Posted January 1, 2015 Share Posted January 1, 2015 Note though: Even if they are also a "bricks and mortar" presence, don't buy from eBay listing of any such stores and expect VAT to be deducted. Due to their agreement with eBay they have to sell for the price listed on "Buy it Now" for example. If the store offers something you want on eBay but ALSO has a non-eBay method of ordering the same thing, choose the latter to get the benefit of VAT deduction... Also be aware of UK listings on other eBay sites eg. eBay.com Rails of Sheffield, Eileen's Emporium, rebate VAT too. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jim76 Posted January 5, 2015 Share Posted January 5, 2015 Not Olivias!: 'We Do Not Deduct VAT Worldwide.' http://www.oliviastrains.com/terms-conditions/ Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ian Abel Posted January 5, 2015 Share Posted January 5, 2015 Not Olivias!: 'We Do Not Deduct VAT Worldwide.' http://www.oliviastrains.com/terms-conditions/ They do have an odd and potential contradiction there though - one reason (before I read this thread?!?!?! ) that I wasn't interested in buying from them; Item #12 - All prices include VAT where applicable Item #13 - We Do Not Deduct VAT Worldwide So, since VAT is NOT applicable for sales to me in the US, does #12 hold true i.e. no VAT because not applicable, or does #13 overrule it?? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
brittannia Posted January 5, 2015 Share Posted January 5, 2015 Ask Them Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
wirey33 Posted January 10, 2015 Share Posted January 10, 2015 Monk Bar Models in York will do it for £100 spend and over. Happy customer disclaimer....... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LocomotionatShildon Posted February 17, 2015 Share Posted February 17, 2015 Locomotion models deduct vat on the website and over the phone Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium New Haven Neil Posted February 17, 2015 RMweb Premium Share Posted February 17, 2015 Trackshack's website automatically removes VAT where applicable, ie outside of Europe, on all purchases. The stock levels are live too, so if it shows in stock, it really is! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
lofty1966 Posted February 18, 2015 Share Posted February 18, 2015 Nice of Olivias to pocket the VAT. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium kevinlms Posted February 18, 2015 RMweb Premium Share Posted February 18, 2015 Ask Them And based on the answer, you either agree to the T&C, or tell them what to do! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Dava Posted February 18, 2015 RMweb Premium Share Posted February 18, 2015 Tower Models ship overseas from UK free of VAT Ideal for gauge 0 Dava Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
david.hill64 Posted February 18, 2015 Share Posted February 18, 2015 VAT registered retailers can refund if going outside Europe, there is approved paperwork which is tied to their Quarterly VAT Returns. Individuals need to take care as they maybe worse off if their Country decides to levy Import Tax, instead of paying UK VAT. It has been known for individuals to seek a Refund either on leaving the UK (Customs) or when they arrive home. If Retailers are in doubt then they can contact their nearest HMRC office. Been there got the T-shirt! DJH were happy to deduct UK VAT on an order for a couple of 0 gauge locos that I bought. Unfortunately the Thai authorities then decided to add 20% import duty (having first asked for an exact count of the number of parts in the kits!) and then added 7% VAT on top. All subsequent purchases have been in the UK! On the other hand, smaller value orders from suppliers such as Eileen's and Markits have been VAT deducted and without import duty. I guess there is a threshold in each country. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
0_gauge_novice Posted February 18, 2015 Share Posted February 18, 2015 Yes, each country has individual import duty regulations. In Switzerland if the VAT value (Swiss VAT) is more than 5 francs you have to pay duty, which correlates to a value of about 60 francs (only on packages by post....on foot you dont pay up to 300 francs). If you have to pay you pay a fixed fee of 12 francs from the EU and 16 from the UK (I don't know why itis like that since uk is in the EU), the Swiss VAT of 8% and 3% duty...the good tthing is that the regulations are applicable to almost all goods and you can calculate what you will pay.... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
trisonic Posted February 18, 2015 Share Posted February 18, 2015 Another question that may be asked is what companies refuse to send product to North America yet are entirely happy to supply Australasia etc. Invariably I’ve been told that their “Insurance” prevents it...... Best, Pete. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AndyB Posted February 18, 2015 Share Posted February 18, 2015 Pete, from experience product liability insurance for the US is quite high. As far as I'm aware this shouldn't affect the retailer as liability would rest with the manufacturer. Typically the kind of product liability insurance you need to match claims in the US is somewhat higher than that on offer by British insurers and you have to shop around and pay quite a premium. Exporting to Australia has other issues, for example product testing regulations that are somewhat different from those that apply to Europe or the US, and the costs that go with. Most online shopping carts can be configured to add VAT country-by-country. Once set up retailers shouldn't have to "deduct" VAT from a purchase; the cart simply doesn't add it in the first place. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
trisonic Posted February 18, 2015 Share Posted February 18, 2015 I’d like to see an American consumer try to sue an English company under American law. One must assume that that has actually happened? Why is Canada included? EDIT: Actually come to think of it both companies that refused my orders were also manufacturers of parts on a small scale and not purely retailers. The reason why I gave up ideas for a P4 layout - my excuse anyway.... Best, Pete. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AndyB Posted February 18, 2015 Share Posted February 18, 2015 Where complaining to the vendor does not work the purchaser has redress to Trading Standards. Complaints by consumers from abroad are normally followed up by the Trading Standards for the county in which the vendor is based. This gives foreign consumers who have reason to complain a way of moving their complaint forward using an independent and authoritative body. Trading Standards might, for example, take action where a product is faulty and has caused injury. One example a few years back was where switching power supplies sourced from a particular manufacturer in the FE were failing to meet safety standards (the plastic casing was crumbling, exposing the pins that were live to people's fingers). These had flowed through to consumers around the world and Trading Standards started a series of spot checks and inspecting random samples. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jol Wilkinson Posted February 18, 2015 Share Posted February 18, 2015 Nice of Olivias to pocket the VAT. Are they though? Only if they "reclaim" the VAT on what you buy, but don't deduct it from your invoice. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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