RMweb Premium New Haven Neil Posted November 20, 2015 RMweb Premium Share Posted November 20, 2015 What a beut! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Killybegs Posted November 20, 2015 Author Popular Post Share Posted November 20, 2015 I'm still finding little bits to do. 70018 had lost the glass deflectors behind the cab window, one was missing when I bought the loco second hand and the I must have been responsible for knocking off the other one while working on the body. Amazingly, I hadn't noticed they were missing until today. New ones were fabricated from clear glazing material (0.25mm) and black styrene (0.20mm) for the frames and, once the remains of the old ones were carefully removed, they were secured in place with solvent. That's the great thing about plastic bodies! I have also fitted draft curtains. folded up from black tissue paper. I have made these as concertinas, not prototypically correct but it makes them more robust . They suffered somewhat in real life, I'm sure that, in time, these will go the same way! 21 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold NHY 581 Posted November 20, 2015 RMweb Gold Share Posted November 20, 2015 Breathtaking. Well done, John. Rob. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Killybegs Posted November 22, 2015 Author Share Posted November 22, 2015 (edited) Only after looking at this shot http://www.rmweb.co.uk/community/index.php?/topic/67-how-realistic-are-your-models-photo-challenge/page-143&do=findComment&comment=2099705 , did I notice how poor the profile of the chimney is. I have now been at it with the files and it looks a lot better. before .... after .... Edited November 22, 2015 by Killybegs 8 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike G Posted November 22, 2015 Share Posted November 22, 2015 Come on John, you just can't gloss over the draft curtains, how did you do them and more importantly how are they fixed? This is usually one of the areas a number of models let themselves down with. So it'd be good to get some details that I can cadge :-) MIke Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Killybegs Posted November 22, 2015 Author Share Posted November 22, 2015 Come on John, you just can't gloss over the draft curtains, how did you do them and more importantly how are they fixed? This is usually one of the areas a number of models let themselves down with. So it'd be good to get some details that I can cadge :-) MIke The draft curtains are made from black tissue paper, folded up to make a concertina. I found the smallest width that I could fold was about 1.5mm. Each fold was started against the edge of a steel rule then finished between my fingers. Turn it over and fold again and so on. You need to cut the bottom edge on a slope before you start folding. Once finished and with the top edge trimmed to size, one end is secured to the tender with superglue. You asked earlier about colouring the motion and valve gear. This was done with gun blue which turns nickel silver brown. You can control how brown by the length of time you leave the gun blue on before washing it off. The various bits can then be polished with cotton buds or a soft cloth. The surface does need to be absolutely clean before you start and you need to make sure that there's no solder on the surface as the gun blue doesn't like it! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike G Posted November 23, 2015 Share Posted November 23, 2015 "one end is secured to the tender with superglue." You asked earlier about colouring the motion and valve gear. This was done with gun blue which turns nickel silver brown. You can control how brown by the length of time you leave the gun blue on before washing it off. The various bits can then be polished with cotton buds or a soft cloth. The surface does need to be absolutely clean before you start and you need to make sure that there's no solder on the surface as the gun blue doesn't like it! And you didn't get any white pluming from the fumes? I can't tell from the photos if your "draft excluder" goes over the top of the tender as well? If it does then really well done. I shall certainly give that a go once the 45xx is finished and it's wheels are back from a well known Tewkesbury wheel fitting expert. Can I just thank you for all the marvelous tips you've given away during this absorbing build. I'd love to see this beauty in the flesh, you've certainly pushed modeling boundaries back with this model. Can't wait to see the beast once you've let some grime (but not too much) at her. Wonderful! Mike Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Killybegs Posted November 24, 2015 Author Share Posted November 24, 2015 Not sure what you mean by white pluming. You can get a white deposit on solder if the gun blue is not all washed off. Looking at prototype photographs, the draft curtains only go up to the point where the roof is extended back to the tender. 70018 would have been fairly grubby prior to going in for a major overhaul, but I don't think I am going to go that far with the weathering. I have just picked up 'British Steam BR Standard Locomotives' by Keith Langston which has quite a lot of colour pics ranging from bright and shiny to downright filthy. It also has two colour pics taken from the top of a coaling plant, showing weathering on the top of the locos. 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Torr Giffard LSWR 1951-71 Posted November 24, 2015 Share Posted November 24, 2015 ....lovely model of 'Flying Dutchman' John....captures the prototype very well. Dave Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JeffP Posted November 24, 2015 Share Posted November 24, 2015 And you didn't get any white pluming from the fumes? I think Mike meant from the superglue used to stick down the draught excluders? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Killybegs Posted November 24, 2015 Author Share Posted November 24, 2015 I think Mike meant from the superglue used to stick down the draught excluders? In that case, no. I use Vitalbond CA Medium and in this instance applied it lightly to the tissue paper. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike G Posted November 24, 2015 Share Posted November 24, 2015 Yep, that was exactly it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Killybegs Posted November 25, 2015 Author Share Posted November 25, 2015 70018 is back from the weathering shed and is waiting for some replacement draft curtains. The loco and tender had a good scrub before submitting to the airbrush and tissue paper doesn't like water! I will need to tone down the cylinder covers a bit, that's just weathering powder on their at the moment, so that's not a problem. I hope it's not too grubby for some people's taste. 13 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Porcy Mane Posted November 25, 2015 Share Posted November 25, 2015 I hope it's not too grubby for some people's taste. Even better with added grime. Porcy Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
coachmann Posted November 25, 2015 Share Posted November 25, 2015 Each to his own but I preferred it before weathering. Below footplate was weathered anyway. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Killybegs Posted November 25, 2015 Author Share Posted November 25, 2015 (edited) A couple of different angles ...... Edited November 25, 2015 by Killybegs 18 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Siberian Snooper Posted November 25, 2015 RMweb Premium Share Posted November 25, 2015 I think that is some very good weathering, looks very realistic. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
westerner Posted November 25, 2015 Share Posted November 25, 2015 Unlike Larry I do prefer stock to be weathered, as I remember the tail end of steam and come to think of it hydraulics. I DO like your Brit even more now it's weathered. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
barrowroad Posted November 25, 2015 Share Posted November 25, 2015 A couple of different angles ...... 70018.88.jpg 70018.87.jpg Looks superb John. Checking with some records I have it visited Bristol with the 1V95 Manchester to Plymouth - Sat 4th April 1964.................. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JeffP Posted November 25, 2015 Share Posted November 25, 2015 Hello Barrowroad, I'm still following your blog with great pleasure. Will we see any Brits on 82E? I've a picture somewhere of one on the outer sidings in green unlined livery. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Killybegs Posted November 25, 2015 Author Share Posted November 25, 2015 Mark 2 draft curtains fitted. I cut a notch out of the back of them so that they could bend over the curve at the top. 11 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Holt Posted November 25, 2015 Share Posted November 25, 2015 Very nice, John. I also prefer the weathered version as being more representative of the era. Just one point, can i suggest you straighten out the upper/rear section of the regulator operating rod? It rather catches the eye. Regards, Dave. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Killybegs Posted November 25, 2015 Author Share Posted November 25, 2015 (edited) Very nice, John. I also prefer the weathered version as being more representative of the era. Just one point, can i suggest you straighten out the upper/rear section of the regulator operating rod? It rather catches the eye. Regards, Dave. I meant to do that before weathering it, Oops! Job done, thanks for the reminder Dave Edited November 25, 2015 by Killybegs Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold The Stationmaster Posted November 25, 2015 RMweb Gold Share Posted November 25, 2015 I like the weathering but particularly because of the effect which John was trying to achieve - an engine on high mileage shortly due for shopping. Canton looked after its Brits very well for some years but attention fell off as they came up for transfer elsewhere or were hitting high, pre-shopping, mileages. Their early visual condition thus gradually declined in two sets of crcumstances. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Siberian Snooper Posted November 25, 2015 RMweb Premium Share Posted November 25, 2015 That last photo looks very real. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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