Glorious NSE Posted October 29, 2009 Share Posted October 29, 2009 Watch out for anouncements about RTR inter-war Belgian ferry wagons, then I'll have proof... or maybe not. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Re6/6 Posted October 30, 2009 RMweb Gold Share Posted October 30, 2009 [Paranoia] I'm sure I'm being watched, I start scratchbuilding two more silver bullets at Scaleforum in September last year and within weeks the model was announced. ...You're not alone......first a Hurst conversion for the Cl153 halfway done..then Hornby announce one...then paid arm and a leg for a Kemilway BR 2-6-2T, and then Bachmann.............. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jonhall Posted October 30, 2009 Share Posted October 30, 2009 No, Further to my previous negative reply... when I said no, obviously I actually meant yes, but I don't remember doing so... :icon_redface: turns out i built the master soon after measuring one, but didn't bother casting any as you can't get the bogies.... :icon_frustrated: Jon Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
warringtonbankquay Posted November 1, 2009 Share Posted November 1, 2009 Dapol might be in a mess with the proposed numbering for the silver bullets. According to their catalogue and Hattons pre-orders page, the numbering for individual wagons seems to be one from the ANF Industrie batch and three from the Arbel Fauvet batch. Isn't it the latter wagon they are modelling, so the first one is wrong? Also, they are all shown with country code 70 (BR) but all the information and pictures I have seen show them as being registered to SNCF (code 87), unless they've been re-registered since 2006, which is the latest info I have. Can anybody in the know confirm my concerns or correct me? Many thanks, Chris Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fat Controller Posted November 1, 2009 Share Posted November 1, 2009 Dapol might be in a mess with the proposed numbering for the silver bullets. According to their catalogue and Hattons pre-orders page, the numbering for individual wagons seems to be one from the ANF Industrie batch and three from the Arbel Fauvet batch. Isn't it the latter wagon they are modelling, so the first one is wrong? Also, they are all shown with country code 70 (BR) but all the information and pictures I have seen show them as being registered to SNCF (code 87), unless they've been re-registered since 2006, which is the latest info I have. Can anybody in the know confirm my concerns or correct me? Many thanks, Chris A quick glance at David Ratcliffe's new book throws up 33 70 7890 124-2 at Coalville open day in June 1989 (in pristine condition) and 33 70 7890 120-0 at Crewe in February 2000. These were the ones to BR Dia E708 for Tiger Rail in 1989 by ANF. These were the wagons branded for Caledonian Paper At the same time, Arbel-Fauvet built 120 vehicles to E719, numbered 33 87 7898 000-119 These were divided as follows:- 000-039 to Locatransport 040-079 & 100-119 to NACCO 080-099 to Oeva. The NACCO ones worked internal flows in the UK for ECC, whilst the others worked mainly on traffic from Vise, near Liege, in the Belgian Ardennes. Brian Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clagmeister Posted November 7, 2009 Share Posted November 7, 2009 Whilst I'm waiting for my Dapol silver bullets to arrive. I thought I'd share this photo I took on Workington docks of how they are unloaded into road tankers. Just shows you don't actually need a paper mill to model clay slurry traffic. I will be using a re liveried Guiness Bedford TK. Very simple and easy to model. cheerio Claggy Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnH Posted November 15, 2009 Share Posted November 15, 2009 So many questions, lol In the shops before Christmas we hope. ??27.95 RRP Kernow for weathered ones! Hope this helps? cheers Dave Are you going to be doing the bogies as spares Dave? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Piemanlarger Posted November 28, 2009 Share Posted November 28, 2009 Dapol website updated with somne new pics, these look very nice. Might end up with a clean rake and a dirty one!! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ian Fisher Posted November 28, 2009 Share Posted November 28, 2009 They do look very nice, why though have plastic ladders and such made Dapol Dave, ust to have them replaced? Nice touch just seems a shame to go to trouble of making them to see them replaced. Maybe thats why I dont design and make RTR! Ian Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
craigwelsh Posted November 28, 2009 Share Posted November 28, 2009 They do look very nice, why though have plastic ladders and such made Dapol Dave, ust to have them replaced? Nice touch just seems a shame to go to trouble of making them to see them replaced. Maybe thats why I dont design and make RTR! Ian I assumed they were the etched or cast pieces actually, if they were plastic they would have been black. The end platform barrier looks to be cast with the top platform as an etch. A nice bit of design work if its all to scale, much better than plastic anyway! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigbloke Posted November 28, 2009 Share Posted November 28, 2009 I assumed they were the etched or cast pieces actually, if they were plastic they would have been black. The end platform barrier looks to be cast with the top platform as an etch. A nice bit of design work if its all to scale, much better than plastic anyway! I think Ian was meaning why make them on the first sample products (pictures in post #15 on this tread, where the ladders and end frames etc were in plastic), then replaced on the latest ones with metal? I prefer the metal ones too, but I wonder if Dapol were hoping the plastic ones would do else why make them? 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ian Fisher Posted November 28, 2009 Share Posted November 28, 2009 Ta very much bigbloke, Aye I was reffering to the images contained within this post, which are very clearly plastic, hence the question posed to Dapol Dave of this parish! Ian I think Ian was meaning why make them on the first sample products (pictures in post #15 on this tread, where the ladders and end frames etc were in plastic), then replaced on the latest ones with metal? I prefer the metal ones too, but I wonder if Dapol were hoping the plastic ones would do else why make them? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
DapolDave Posted November 30, 2009 Share Posted November 30, 2009 Hi, This is an easy one to reply to. As noted the original pictures show plastic. This is because when the cad/cam program is transferred to the tooling machine it includes everything (including couplers) and these are all made in plastic. So, when it comes to the first shot (used to check fit and look etc, we have plastic ladders and walkways etc. (this is always the case, and nothign to worry about) Last Friday i published on our website a revised first shot picture with the metalwork added for effect. Hope this helps? cheers Dave Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Piemanlarger Posted November 30, 2009 Share Posted November 30, 2009 Hi, Last Friday i published on our website a revised first shot picture with the metalwork added for effect. Hope this helps? cheers Dave Helped me order 10! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnH Posted December 2, 2009 Share Posted December 2, 2009 Dave, are you going to do the Silver Bullet bogies as spares? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
DapolDave Posted December 14, 2009 Share Posted December 14, 2009 Hi everyone, Just in from the 'Chromers' the first 2 samples of Silver Bullet for you all to mull over for a bit. I think they are too Chrome (if that's possible), but please let me know what you all think via this forum, and we'll go with the concensus. They are on our home page. www.Dapol.co.uk Cheers Dave Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Piemanlarger Posted December 14, 2009 Share Posted December 14, 2009 i could not model them loke that! they look good to me,get them to the shops!! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
43179 Posted December 14, 2009 Share Posted December 14, 2009 Hi everyone, Just in from the 'Chromers' the first 2 samples of Silver Bullet for you all to mull over for a bit. I think they are too Chrome (if that's possible), but please let me know what you all think via this forum, and we'll go with the concensus. They are on our home page. www.Dapol.co.uk Cheers Dave The Chrome Looks good to me Dave - I'd be happy with the finish as shown - For the period im modelling , the wagons would be brand new - so I'd like em nice and shiny tfn 179 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ian Fisher Posted December 14, 2009 Share Posted December 14, 2009 Its a tricky thing to photograph and provide a lighting anything metallic that looks as it does to anyone persons eye, I think once logos are on and maybe a satin finnish if thats at all possible they will look even more the dogs danglies Ian Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
(The) Youth Posted December 15, 2009 Author Share Posted December 15, 2009 How did you do it (the chrome finish I mean) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
NickL2008 Posted December 15, 2009 Share Posted December 15, 2009 Those look very good! looking forward to seeing the final product Dave! NL Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Summer_Saturday Posted December 15, 2009 Share Posted December 15, 2009 I'd be happy with the finish pictured. I always remember these as being very shiny when the train ran through Dawlish in the late 80s/early 90s; the most striking freight train of the period! This is the best shiny picture I have been able to find: http://wagons.fotopic.net/p53913479.html Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gulliver Posted December 16, 2009 Share Posted December 16, 2009 Looking pretty good to me - I would be happy with that! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
DapolDave Posted December 16, 2009 Share Posted December 16, 2009 Hi Guys, Thanks for the comments and please keep them coming. We send out the 'barrels' (they are a 1 piece moulding with separate glue in ends) out to a company on the North Wales coast that chromes metal and plastic. It isn't cheap, but in all honesty we knew that when we started the project, hence the RRP being higher than normal for a bogie wagon, but we hope everyone thinks its worth it. Cheers Dave Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChrisB Posted December 16, 2009 Share Posted December 16, 2009 Now am I getting these confused with something else or didn't these also spend some time in ECC Blue livery? If so, any intention of producing these at any time in the future Dave ? In the meantime, I will be snapping some up as soon as they're available and will be weathering them immediately as the reflection of my face is bad enough without it being distorted by those curves! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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