RMweb Premium Clive Mortimore Posted December 27, 2020 RMweb Premium Share Posted December 27, 2020 21 minutes ago, newbryford said: Nah - putting it on a "to finish off later" shelf. I have a very large shelf. Only one "to finish of later" shelf? I have a whole model room full. 1 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium newbryford Posted December 27, 2020 RMweb Premium Share Posted December 27, 2020 10 minutes ago, Clive Mortimore said: Only one "to finish of later" shelf? I have a whole model room full. But your shelf is layout shaped. 1 3 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Gerbil-Fritters Posted December 28, 2020 Author Share Posted December 28, 2020 'Jumbo' number 2 is on the repair bench this week, although presumably the spares I ordered are lost in Brexit Limbo for some ynknown period of time. The same Limbo that has seen my other Br50 lost in transit. Anyway, J2 has a new drive shaft now. I also cleaned gunk out of it. Why do folk over oil things? 5 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Gerbil-Fritters Posted December 30, 2020 Author Share Posted December 30, 2020 The spares arrived today. However I have not been able to get J2 to move. Somethings wrong somewhere! I've put it back in the box while I have a think. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium newbryford Posted December 30, 2020 RMweb Premium Share Posted December 30, 2020 8 minutes ago, Dr Gerbil-Fritters said: The spares arrived today. However I have not been able to get J2 to move. Somethings wrong somewhere! I've put it back in the box while I have a think. And change country................ 1 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
F-UnitMad Posted December 30, 2020 Share Posted December 30, 2020 33 minutes ago, newbryford said: And change country................ It has to go full circle, doesn't it.... back to US outline... 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Gerbil-Fritters Posted December 30, 2020 Author Share Posted December 30, 2020 You naughty boys! It's only this one back in its box, the others are all fine. This one has all the hallmarks of a hanger queen. 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Gerbil-Fritters Posted December 30, 2020 Author Share Posted December 30, 2020 In fact, the nice man from DHL also brought my Br50 that's been MIA for several weeks. It worked right out of the box and came DCC fitted with a Lenz decoder. It went for a spin round the layout. I ought to invest in a rolling road as most of my new but old loks could do with a jolly good clean, tune up and running in. Any suggestions? Also ideas for diagnosing whether the hanger queen has a short or is electrically dead. The motor turns when it's out of the chassis and power is applied directly to the terminals. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium newbryford Posted December 30, 2020 RMweb Premium Share Posted December 30, 2020 2 minutes ago, Dr Gerbil-Fritters said: In fact, the nice man from DHL also brought my Br50 that's been MIA for several weeks. It worked right out of the box and came DCC fitted with a Lenz decoder. It went for a spin round the layout. I ought to invest in a rolling road as most of my new but old loks could do with a jolly good clean, tune up and running in. Any suggestions? Also ideas for diagnosing whether the hanger queen has a short or is electrically dead. The motor turns when it's out of the chassis and power is applied directly to the terminals. I will suggest the DCC Concepts rolling road. Regards the ailing lok - if the motor turns, then there is a break between wheel/pickup/motor somewhere. I know it's an obvious statement, but a systematic check through the wiring should reveal the fault. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium St Enodoc Posted December 30, 2020 RMweb Premium Share Posted December 30, 2020 1 hour ago, Dr Gerbil-Fritters said: I ought to invest in a rolling road as most of my new but old loks could do with a jolly good clean, tune up and running in. Any suggestions? Like Mick, I use the DCC Concepts rollers and am very pleased with them. 1 hour ago, Dr Gerbil-Fritters said: Also ideas for diagnosing whether the hanger queen has a short or is electrically dead. The motor turns when it's out of the chassis and power is applied directly to the terminals. When the motor is out of the chassis, is there a short between the wheels? If not, then you probably have an open circuit somewhere. Again, as Mick says, a few minutes' fun with your multi-meter should tell you what and where. Another thought - without the motor, does the chassis roll freely when pushed by hand? 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Northroader Posted December 31, 2020 RMweb Premium Share Posted December 31, 2020 Has it got collector shoes placed between the wheels? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
F-UnitMad Posted December 31, 2020 Share Posted December 31, 2020 22 minutes ago, Northroader said: Has it got collector shoes placed between the wheels? I thought it was just Märklin who did 3-rail? Isn't this a Roco model.? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Northroader Posted December 31, 2020 RMweb Premium Share Posted December 31, 2020 Them German locos look all the same... 1 4 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Gerbil-Fritters Posted December 31, 2020 Author Share Posted December 31, 2020 This is one of the 2000+ models with an 8 pin connection between the loco and tender where the motor is. This is an absolute swine to connect. Older models used a pair of copper strips on either side of the tender drawbar. Bullet proof. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
F-UnitMad Posted December 31, 2020 Share Posted December 31, 2020 49 minutes ago, Northroader said: Them German locos look all the same... Almost as bad as EMD Geeps.... 1 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lacathedrale Posted December 31, 2020 Share Posted December 31, 2020 Did I hear you say 'safety cab'? Anyway, this german railways lark is definitely giving me pause for thought on my Minories plans - maybe the limited (ha!) stock requirements for a european Minories would make it easy to wrap a bow around? I've bounced around from 2FS to Finetrax to Kato Unitrack to Peco 00 to Hornby Dublo to Maldon Tinplate in search of a platform that will just ALLOW ME TO RUN TRAINS FOR GODS SAKE and every. single. one of them. has a bloody problem. Maybe just switching to H0 with reliable, modern european models is the solution. Maybe shades of Acheaux? Anyway, looking wonderful as always @Dr Gerbil-Fritters - I would love to see it in person some time. I'll bring the bollinger and the acid jazz, just tell me when and where - in the meantime, would it be possible to get a video panorama of what you've got? All the very best, 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
F-UnitMad Posted December 31, 2020 Share Posted December 31, 2020 (edited) 26 minutes ago, Lacathedrale said: Anyway, this german railways lark is definitely giving me pause for thought on my Minories plans - Keep it quiet, but one of my interests is the Dutch NS railways, after a visit there in 1997 - those Koploppers and Whaleback EMUs, along with the 1600 & 1700 electrics were quite alluring, and I would happily do a Minories in HO or even N to scratch that itch. Space and cost of models prevent it from being any more than a pipe dream, but I do have a small collection of Dutch layout & prototype articles from the magazines. It's like I've said before - I think many of us in the UK who look at railways beyond our shores will have interest 'bubbles' for more than one country or prototype, even if circumstances limit what we personally model. Edited December 31, 2020 by F-UnitMad 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Gerbil-Fritters Posted December 31, 2020 Author Share Posted December 31, 2020 Somewhere in my collection I am sure I have a Dutch Minories plan. I'll dig it out. I once spent an entertaining day getting 'lost' on the NS between Schipol and Tilburg for a work thing. This was in about 1995 and I was delighted to find that Tilburg was the Crewe Works of the NS and there was a clear view from the station platforms. 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium St Enodoc Posted December 31, 2020 RMweb Premium Share Posted December 31, 2020 1 hour ago, Lacathedrale said: Did I hear you say 'safety cab'? Anyway, this german railways lark is definitely giving me pause for thought on my Minories plans - maybe the limited (ha!) stock requirements for a european Minories would make it easy to wrap a bow around? I've bounced around from 2FS to Finetrax to Kato Unitrack to Peco 00 to Hornby Dublo to Maldon Tinplate in search of a platform that will just ALLOW ME TO RUN TRAINS FOR GODS SAKE and every. single. one of them. has a bloody problem. Maybe just switching to H0 with reliable, modern european models is the solution. Maybe shades of Acheaux? Anyway, looking wonderful as always @Dr Gerbil-Fritters - I would love to see it in person some time. I'll bring the bollinger and the acid jazz, just tell me when and where - in the meantime, would it be possible to get a video panorama of what you've got? All the very best, See whether this gives you any ideas: Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lacathedrale Posted December 31, 2020 Share Posted December 31, 2020 19 minutes ago, St Enodoc said: See whether this gives you any ideas: Wow, this struck home so much with what I've been thinking about alot recently: > For years I have wanted a ‘system’ type of layout with a number of stations and wagons are sent to specific destinations – rather than the normal UK one station and a fiddle yard job. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Gerbil-Fritters Posted December 31, 2020 Author Share Posted December 31, 2020 Thanks to Allegheny of this parish, the Hanger Queen lives! Turns out I had reinstalled the motor upside down. The Roco name on the casing actually faces the bottom of the tender chassis. Who knew? Apart from John, thanks John. 5 1 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Gerbil-Fritters Posted December 31, 2020 Author Share Posted December 31, 2020 5 hours ago, Lacathedrale said: in the meantime, would it be possible to get a video panorama of what you've got? Yes, give me a couple of days to tidy up first! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Allegheny1600 Posted December 31, 2020 Share Posted December 31, 2020 Thanks, DR G-F! I’m only too glad to help, having been a tinkerer for so long, one picks up little tricks over the years. For the benefit of anyone else who has a Roco loco that has been serviced, everything else works fine and you know the motor works, just try turning the motor the other way up! I had come across this a few years ago by dumb luck and had almost forgotten it until now. Happy new year everybody, John. 1 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Allegheny1600 Posted December 31, 2020 Share Posted December 31, 2020 PS, that’s one gorgeous looking model! I can’t wait to get mine working again. 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
F-UnitMad Posted December 31, 2020 Share Posted December 31, 2020 1 hour ago, Allegheny1600 said: just try turning the motor the other way up! Ok I'll ask the Stupid Question.... Why? What difference does it make which way up the motor is? 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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