The Lurker Posted April 3, 2014 Share Posted April 3, 2014 woops! http://www.nationalrail.co.uk/posters/SEimage.jpg Seems to be taking quite a while to sort this one out - the local online rag (News Shopper) had a picture from a member of the public yesterday morning. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
darren01 Posted April 4, 2014 Share Posted April 4, 2014 Hi A friend of mine works in a building that over looks the line and sent me some photo of this, on the day it happened. She was at her desk when she heard a very load screeching and banging outside and looked out the window and saw the wagons had come off the track, lots of dust thrown up as well. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Gwiwer Posted April 4, 2014 RMweb Premium Share Posted April 4, 2014 Being off under the bridge will delay the recovery operation. Cranes cannot be used. Airbags might not be effective. Other methods such as use or retailing plates are slower. Then the track has to be made good and inspected. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Bigbee Line Posted April 4, 2014 Share Posted April 4, 2014 Looking at the picture, jacks should do the job. Damage to the track looks minimal. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium PhilJ W Posted April 4, 2014 RMweb Premium Share Posted April 4, 2014 Delays to services reported this morning on BBC London. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
meld Posted April 4, 2014 Share Posted April 4, 2014 Delays to services reported this morning on BBC London. Southeastern unable to run Charlton - Blackheath and vice versa due to Wednesdays derailment. Quite a few concrete sleepers are broken/gouged deeply and would need to be replaced, plus unknow damage to signalling and power cables under and directly next to the track in the immediate area. I would expect that all should be back to normal over the weekend ( they might even look at the 'Wet Bed' in the area too - ever hopeful Me! ). Mike. P.S. Sounds like there's another DBS Aggregate train ( Peak Forest - Cresent Road Sdgs? ) off the road at Luton, Platform One, this morning ... slight delays apparently and a shunt for terminating FCC services - to Leagrave Jnc and back! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Oldddudders Posted April 4, 2014 RMweb Gold Share Posted April 4, 2014 Is this train from Angersteins? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Simon Lee Posted April 4, 2014 RMweb Premium Share Posted April 4, 2014 Is this train from Angersteins? 6M79 Angerstein - Bardon Hill Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
meld Posted April 4, 2014 Share Posted April 4, 2014 Is this train from Angersteins? Ian ... I think it was out from, as it was 66601 ( FHH Loco ) it "should" have been the return empties to Bardon IIRC HTH Mike. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BR(S) Posted April 4, 2014 Share Posted April 4, 2014 Also a Freightliner Class 66 off the track today at Luton Crescent Road sidings (no picture). The front bogie seemed to have come off at the points leading to road 1 and 2. The wagons it was hauling were sitting in Limbury Road sidings later in the day. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rugd1022 Posted April 4, 2014 Share Posted April 4, 2014 Also a Freightliner Class 66 off the track today at Luton Crescent Road sidings (no picture). The front bogie seemed to have come off at the points leading to road 1 and 2. The wagons it was hauling were sitting in Limbury Road sidings later in the day. This is one of our jobs at Rugby - commiserations to my colleague on that job this morning... the trackwork has always been rough in the yard at Crescent Road and shunting can be awkward at times due to the layout. As it happens 6M79 is also one of our jobs! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rugd1022 Posted April 8, 2014 Share Posted April 8, 2014 Bit of an update on the Luton derailment - apparently it happened on the points leading from the Up Slow into the Up Loop that leads into the yard, 66 603's front bogie went one way and the rear bogie went the other way. 603 currently sits in the yard awaiting a move away by low loader. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Talltim Posted April 8, 2014 Share Posted April 8, 2014 What traffic goes to Luton now? Is it all engineers stuff? I remember the days when the yard was used for a variety of revenue stuff Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fat Controller Posted April 8, 2014 Share Posted April 8, 2014 What traffic goes to Luton now? Is it all engineers stuff? I remember the days when the yard was used for a variety of revenue stuff Aggregates. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rugd1022 Posted April 9, 2014 Share Posted April 9, 2014 Yes it's aggregates from Bardon Hill Quarry. Correction due on the Luton incident - it occured at the first set of handpoints in the loop, not the powered points from the Up Slow. Had a word with the driver this morning and it transpires that a the Method Of Working arrangements may need looking into. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold The Stationmaster Posted April 9, 2014 RMweb Gold Share Posted April 9, 2014 Being off under the bridge will delay the recovery operation. Cranes cannot be used. Airbags might not be effective. Other methods such as use or retailing plates are slower. Then the track has to be made good and inspected. Looks like an easy one to me Rick. As BBLine says it would be an easy jacking job provided the track is ok and with MFD gear or equivalent rerailing would be very simple as the wagons were presumably empty so aren't a difficult lift; the hardest part is making sure both axles of the bogie are kept in line when you drop it back on the rails. As with many simple derailments such as this the last thing you'd call out would be a crane - slow, extra possessions needed, making sure it arrives the right way round, and mind numbingly expensive. Modern jacking kit is simple to get in place and is by far the best and quickest way of doing a simple vertical lift and traverse according to my various T shirts Indeed even the old fashioned hand worked traverse jacks and packing were pretty quick although they didn't have the lift capacity of the hydraulic kit. Here are some views of a much heavier lift rerailing job in South Wales back in 1973 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Enterprisingwestern Posted June 3, 2015 RMweb Gold Share Posted June 3, 2015 Looks like an easy one to me Rick. As BBLine says it would be an easy jacking job provided the track is ok and with MFD gear or equivalent rerailing would be very simple as the wagons were presumably empty so aren't a difficult lift; the hardest part is making sure both axles of the bogie are kept in line when you drop it back on the rails. As with many simple derailments such as this the last thing you'd call out would be a crane - slow, extra possessions needed, making sure it arrives the right way round, and mind numbingly expensive. Modern jacking kit is simple to get in place and is by far the best and quickest way of doing a simple vertical lift and traverse according to my various T shirts Indeed even the old fashioned hand worked traverse jacks and packing were pretty quick although they didn't have the lift capacity of the hydraulic kit. Here are some views of a much heavier lift rerailing job in South Wales back in 1973 img146.jpg img143.jpg img140adj.jpg Superb Sturgeon of the period shots, thanks Mike. Mike. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Lurker Posted June 4, 2015 Author Share Posted June 4, 2015 Funnily enough there was another derailment in the same sort of area yesterday causing problems. Does anyone know what happened this time? EDIT - I've seen the other thread now...! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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