RMweb Gold Market65 Posted June 7, 2016 RMweb Gold Share Posted June 7, 2016 Hi, Dave. Lovely photos today. The first one is interesting for I have not come across too many of the class 154 prototype unit. And I agree about the class 120, it is one that should be in the RTR range, but whether it will get made now is a good question in view of eye watering prices. With warmest regards, Rob. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peter Kazmierczak Posted June 7, 2016 Share Posted June 7, 2016 I keep voting each year for a Class 120 (and a HUO coal hopper) but thus far my pleas have gone unheard. Before I could drive I once cycled to Lowdhan from Derby. Took a wrong turn on way back and Carlton Hill nearly killed me. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
35A Posted June 7, 2016 Share Posted June 7, 2016 Lovely to see the class 120s, also to see them before the original centre (buffet) vehicles were replaced by spare Metro-Camm class 101 trailers. They bring back many fond memories to me - although not so much when they were doing the Norwich - Birmingham runs, which could be a little tedious (and rattly!), especially the evening services, which used to stop at every pillar and post in East Anglia. Interesting that the class 154 is in two-car formation - I don't recall ever seeing it without the centre car. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
dvdlcs Posted June 8, 2016 Share Posted June 8, 2016 That's an interesting signal in Spalding. I wonder if you would ever get drawn upto it and sit across the crossing waiting for the road? Lovely shots again David (especially the searchlights in yesterdays post!) Andy G Hello. Presumably if that signal were at red (sorry, stop) then presumably there would be an arrangement that the train stops at a defined point on the other side of the crossing, presumably at the LX or Whistle board. Perhaps there was even interlocking such that if that signal was at stop the preceding signal would also be at stop to hold the train clear of the crossing. All surmising, of course. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
dvdlcs Posted June 8, 2016 Share Posted June 8, 2016 Interesting that the class 154 is in two-car formation - I don't recall ever seeing it without the centre car. Hello. Stand to be corrected, but my memory was that when 150 002 was converted to the 154 (002) only the two driving cars were done, the trailer becoming spare until it reverted to 150 form. I do wonder what it would have been like had the 150/156/158 DMUs been built as 3-car units rather than 2-car, but that is a musing for another thread... Hope this helps. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold russ p Posted June 8, 2016 RMweb Gold Share Posted June 8, 2016 I think as a 154 it did for at least a time have three cars. When it was rebuilt back to a 150 it had its braking system replaced, as built it had two pipe air PBL then westcode electronic EP system. This I feel was a retrograde step as the PBL system only required an adaptor coupler to be hauled by a loco with fully operational brakes You can tell if it has PBL brakes as two air valves are visible on the coupler heads. There are three car 158s by the way Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium brushman47544 Posted June 8, 2016 RMweb Premium Share Posted June 8, 2016 I do wonder what it would have been like had the 150/156/158 DMUs been built as 3-car units rather than 2-car, but that is a musing for another thread... Fewer units would have been built overall, so heritage DMUs and even better loco hauled trains would have lasted longer. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Popular Post DaveF Posted June 8, 2016 Author RMweb Gold Popular Post Share Posted June 8, 2016 (edited) Trips to Scotland today to look at Motherwell and Mosssend, as usual the sun wasn't shining much on any of the days. Motherwell 27030 & 27049 14th Aug 87 C8981 Motherwell Class 33 & Class 37 27th Feb 00 C24816 Mossend South junction 37412 down le 14th Aug 87 C8975 Mossend North 314216 Motherwell to Coatbridge 14th Aug 87 C8958 Destination read "special" Mossend North 37201 up empty steel 29th March 87 C11818 David Edited June 8, 2016 by DaveF 24 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
luckymucklebackit Posted June 8, 2016 Share Posted June 8, 2016 (edited) So familiar to me!! I worked in the Tube Mill that is to the left of photograph C8975 - "BSC Clydesdale Works". There was a drawing office just out of shot to the left of that photo, I filled a book with spotting notes during the summer I was employed in there. Motherwell 27030 & 27049 14th Aug 87 C8981, both locomotives had already been withdrawn, 27030 would be cut up at Vic Berry's in October of that year. Jim Edited June 8, 2016 by luckymucklebackit Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
eastwestdivide Posted June 8, 2016 Share Posted June 8, 2016 C24816 - what was a 33 doing at Motherwell? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jonny777 Posted June 8, 2016 Share Posted June 8, 2016 C8981, the back of the DIY store. I remember it well. The store staff must have wondered why so many people went out there and came back without buying anything. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold DaveF Posted June 8, 2016 Author RMweb Gold Share Posted June 8, 2016 (edited) C24816 - what was a 33 doing at Motherwell? On 1st October 1999 EWS alocated 3 Class 33s to Motherwell. 33025 (grey/yellow) and 33030 (EWS) were used at Aberdeen for shunting. They usually moved between the 2 locations dead in train, but not always. 33019 was kept at Motherwell for spares, this is probably the one in the photo. David Edited June 8, 2016 by DaveF 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Market65 Posted June 8, 2016 RMweb Gold Share Posted June 8, 2016 Hi, Dave. A great set of photos from Scotland. There are good views of the trackwork as well as the catenary. I think that the class 314 on that special is riding a little roughly, you can see that the cars are not fully aligned with each other. With warmest regards, Rob. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AberdeenBill Posted June 8, 2016 Share Posted June 8, 2016 On 1st October 1999 EWS alocated 3 Class 33s to Motherwell. 33025 (grey/yellow) and 33030 (EWS) were used at Aberdeen for shunting. They usually moved between the 2 locations dead in train, but not always. 33019 was kept at Motherwell for spares, this is probably the one in the photo. David Indeed. A most unlikely pair of visitors to Aberdeen. They also worked local trip-freights (pipes and timber) to Elgin and Laurencekirk. Bill Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Popular Post DaveF Posted June 9, 2016 Author RMweb Gold Popular Post Share Posted June 9, 2016 (edited) Ratcliffe on Soar today, on the Midland Main line between Trent and Kegworth. The photos are from April and August in 1969. Ratcliffe on Soar Class 46 D186 up freight April 69 J1642 Ratcliffe on Soar Class 47 in distance entering power station Aug 69 J1792 Ratcliffe on Soar Class 20s D8067 and ano down freight Aug 69 J1794 Ratcliffe on Soar Class 25 D7562 and Class 45 up ex pass 15.55 Derby to St Pancras Aug 69 J1795 Ratcliffe on Soar Class 45 up 14.55 Sheffield to St Pancras. Aug 69 J1796 Edit: Thanks again to Mark54 for the train IDs. David Edited June 9, 2016 by DaveF 41 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
leopardml2341 Posted June 9, 2016 Share Posted June 9, 2016 Hello Dave, J1794, I suspect it's down to colour rendition, but that leading EE Type 1 don't half look like it's BSYP Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fat Controller Posted June 9, 2016 Share Posted June 9, 2016 Hello Dave, J1794, I suspect it's down to colour rendition, but that leading EE Type 1 don't half look like it's BSYP It looks green to me; what struck me, however, was the way they were coupled cab to nose. I don't think I've seen that before. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Enterprisingwestern Posted June 9, 2016 RMweb Gold Share Posted June 9, 2016 An unusual pairing of class 20's "elephant style", the second is a built in blue one from the higher numbered D16 batch. Mike. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Market65 Posted June 9, 2016 RMweb Gold Share Posted June 9, 2016 Hi, Dave. Excellent photo's from Ratcliffe on Soar. Those two 20's coupled in that way are strange! I like the 25 and 45 in J1795. With warmest regards, Rob. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold DaveF Posted June 9, 2016 Author RMweb Gold Share Posted June 9, 2016 (edited) Hello Dave, J1794, I suspect it's down to colour rendition, but that leading EE Type 1 don't half look like it's BSYP You're right Andy, it is green. On the original scan I can just about make out the BR crest. Parts of the slide had developed a blue cast, I haven't managed to remove it all. Edit - It's got a grey roof so it must be green. David Edited June 9, 2016 by DaveF Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
phixer64 Posted June 9, 2016 Share Posted June 9, 2016 Hello Dave, Like everyone else who commented on J1994, what a picture. Unusual way the locos are, liveries, weathering etc. Excellent pics, any more like these ? Regards Jeff Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold DaveF Posted June 9, 2016 Author RMweb Gold Share Posted June 9, 2016 (edited) Hello Dave, Like everyone else who commented on J1994, what a picture. Unusual way the locos are, liveries, weathering etc. Excellent pics, any more like these ? Regards Jeff Jeff, Many thanks for the kind comment. I am sure there are more but I have so many photos that what comes up on any day is really luck of the draw as I pick, fairly randomly, from the photos I've got round to captioning. There are certainly a lot more on the Midland yet to come, around 200 captioned ones plus more I've not yet sorted out. I'm not saying they are all "good" photos though. David Edited June 9, 2016 by DaveF Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peter Kazmierczak Posted June 9, 2016 Share Posted June 9, 2016 Ah, another of my old haunts - Ratcliffe. Well done David for capturing that stone overbridge, as I don't think it survived much longer after you took that photo. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mark54 Posted June 9, 2016 Share Posted June 9, 2016 1C76 was the 15:55 Derby-St Pancras 1M79 was the 14:55 Sheffield-St Pancras. The 2nd coach was in theory Lounge Car M14902, although difficult to tell from the corridor side. The train has an extra FK at the front. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
leopardml2341 Posted June 9, 2016 Share Posted June 9, 2016 (edited) I'm not saying they are all "good" photos though. David Dave, As far as I'm concerned, any photo of the railway which you can't go out and look at today is a good one! Thanks for posting and keep 'em coming is what I say. Edited June 9, 2016 by leopardml2341 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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