RMweb Gold DaveF Posted November 16, 2020 Author RMweb Gold Share Posted November 16, 2020 2 hours ago, caradoc said: Were there not at one time Euston/Preston sleeping cars, detached from a Down train and attached the following night to an Up train ? 2 hours ago, 31A said: There were. I caught one from Preston to Euston once; I joined the sleeping car (I think there was only one) in a bay platform then quite a lot later it was attached to an up Anglo Scottish sleeper. Would have been mid 1980s sometime. Thanks very much for this information. So after 49 years I know why the sleeping cars were there. David 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Enterprisingwestern Posted November 17, 2020 RMweb Gold Share Posted November 17, 2020 14 hours ago, Enterprisingwestern said: Are those being backed on to a Northbound train?, if so they may have a tale to tell. Mike. 13 hours ago, DaveF said: The sleepers were in the siding at the end of the platfrom all the time I was there, I've never found out why they were there. David 12 hours ago, caradoc said: Were there not at one time Euston/Preston sleeping cars, detached from a Down train and attached the following night to an Up train ? 12 hours ago, 31A said: There were. I caught one from Preston to Euston once; I joined the sleeping car (I think there was only one) in a bay platform then quite a lot later it was attached to an up Anglo Scottish sleeper. Would have been mid 1980s sometime. The reason this photo piqued my interest is due to the fact that it is reckoned in some quarters that the precursor to this move was the actual last steam hauled passenger train in the UK, the final move happening in the early hours of August 5th 1968, when a black 5 was used as steam heat loco for the sleepers and shunted them on to the rear of the train. More information is available on the 50th anniversary of the end of steam thread. Mike. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leander Posted November 17, 2020 Share Posted November 17, 2020 13 hours ago, DaveF said: The sleepers were in the siding at the end of the platfrom all the time I was there, I've never found out why they were there. David They were stabled in that siding during the day. What Caradoc asks is essentially correct. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caradoc Posted November 17, 2020 Share Posted November 17, 2020 17 hours ago, 31A said: There were. I caught one from Preston to Euston once; I joined the sleeping car (I think there was only one) in a bay platform then quite a lot later it was attached to an up Anglo Scottish sleeper. Would have been mid 1980s sometime. I trust you got out of bed to see what loco was making the shunt Steve ?!! 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
luckymucklebackit Posted November 17, 2020 Share Posted November 17, 2020 17 hours ago, caradoc said: Were there not at one time Euston/Preston sleeping cars, detached from a Down train and attached the following night to an Up train ? Was that not the last recorded move of ordinary passenger stock by a steam locomotive on 4th August 1968 - by 45212? Jim 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium 31A Posted November 17, 2020 RMweb Premium Share Posted November 17, 2020 1 hour ago, caradoc said: I trust you got out of bed to see what loco was making the shunt Steve ?!! Erm, I'm afraid not!! 1 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Popular Post DaveF Posted November 17, 2020 Author RMweb Gold Popular Post Share Posted November 17, 2020 (edited) Today we see a few locations between Newcastle and Hartlepool, and one on the Metro line near Jarrow where it crosses the A19. Unusually I have no recollection at all of taking the photo of the coal loader at Murton so cannot add to the caption. The one of the Metro crossing the A19 was taken from the passenger seat of the car by Dad. Felling T&W Metro St James to Heworth 1st Aug 85 C7019.jpg Jarrow Metro bridge over A19 Metro to South Shields Sept 84 J8175.jpg Taken from the front passenger seat. East Boldon 158773 Sunderland to Metro Centre 26th March 94 C19337.jpg Murton coal loader at mine 10th May 92 C16835.jpg With many thanks to Porcy Mane: This is the rapid loader at Hawthorne Shaft. (Hawthorne Combined Mine & Coking Plant to give it its NCB title). Opened about 1959 it became the centralised drawing shaft for Murton, South Hetton, Eppleton and Elmore Collieries. Hartlepool 143006 Middlesbrough to Newcastle 14th Feb 89 C11634.jpg David Edited November 18, 2020 by DaveF 37 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold jcarta Posted November 17, 2020 RMweb Gold Share Posted November 17, 2020 9 minutes ago, DaveF said: The one of the Metro crossing the A19 was taken from the passenger seat of the car by Dad. Complete with Ford Escort MKII, Austin Maestro, VW Scirocco MKI & what looks a Vauxhall Viva..... Probably everything in this picture has been reduced to razor blades Jim 1 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steve4rosegrove Posted November 17, 2020 Share Posted November 17, 2020 1 hour ago, jcarta said: Complete with Ford Escort MKII, Austin Maestro, VW Scirocco MKI & what looks a Vauxhall Viva..... Probably everything in this picture has been reduced to razor blades Jim The Escort might be a rally car - there's lots of 'em so a good shell, 2 door is valuable 2 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold jcarta Posted November 17, 2020 RMweb Gold Share Posted November 17, 2020 20 minutes ago, steve4rosegrove said: The Escort might be a rally car - there's lots of 'em so a good shell, 2 door is valuable The last time this changed hands according to the V5 was on 4th Nov 1985. This one had a 1298cc engine. Lets hope it went on to have another life, especially racing around Kielder Forest ...... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold jcarta Posted November 17, 2020 RMweb Gold Share Posted November 17, 2020 Looking closer at your picture the VW Scirocco isn't a MKI as these had twin round headlamps and this one has oblong ones so this could be a MK2 which was introduced in the UK around 1982. Although it looks like a VW Scirocco the shape also puts it into a Nissan Cherry profile.. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Market65 Posted November 17, 2020 RMweb Gold Share Posted November 17, 2020 Good evening, David. I like the photo’s from beyween Newcastle and Hartlepool. All are of interest, and in C19337, taken at East Boldon, with 158773, on a Sunderland to Metro Centre service, on the 26th March, 1994, I’m left wondering why a 158 should have been put on such a service. I’ve had a look on the web and found other 158’s on that service at that time. Surely though they were designed and built for Inter City type services, not shorter more local services. Unless this is yet another example of Pacers, with various issues, having to have replacement trains again. With warmest regards, Rob. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
great central Posted November 17, 2020 Share Posted November 17, 2020 1 hour ago, Market65 said: Good evening, David. I like the photo’s from beyween Newcastle and Hartlepool. All are of interest, and in C19337, taken at East Boldon, with 158773, on a Sunderland to Metro Centre service, on the 26th March, 1994, I’m left wondering why a 158 should have been put on such a service. I’ve had a look on the web and found other 158’s on that service at that time. Surely though they were designed and built for Inter City type services, not shorter more local services. Unless this is yet another example of Pacers, with various issues, having to have replacement trains again. With warmest regards, Rob. 158773 is now an EMR unit having transferred into the erstwhile Central Trains franchise when the 185s came into service with TPE. 158s are used turn and turn about with 156s and 153s. It was among the last couple of refurbished units being painted plain white with orange doors, if memory serves, rather than full Stagecoach EMT livery. It's now in an interim EMR livery but should eventually be leaving when all the 170s are in service. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stentor Posted November 17, 2020 Share Posted November 17, 2020 2 hours ago, jcarta said: Although it looks like a VW Scirocco the shape also puts it into a Nissan Cherry profile.. I would agree, it looks like a Nissan Cherry GTi to me, https://www.curbsideclassic.com/uncategorized/carshow-classic-1985-nissan-cherry-europe-gti-the-worst-of-both-worlds/ //Simon 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billy_anorak59 Posted November 18, 2020 Share Posted November 18, 2020 Mazda 323? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Popular Post DaveF Posted November 18, 2020 Author RMweb Gold Popular Post Share Posted November 18, 2020 A selection of photos taken in Northumberland at Buston Barns, south of Alnmouth on the ECML for this afternoon. It's a place I visit quite often (though not this year), not too far from home and like many roads near railways in the county parking is very easy. I've been going there for 40 years, I've never seen another railway photographer there (except Dad if he had come out with me), if I'm there for a couple of hours I might see one or two cars go by. I quite often combine a visit there with a look at the harbour in Amble, or a walk round the castle or along the river in the nearby village of Warkworth. Fortunately nearly all car parking in Northumberland is free and there always seem to be enough spaces. The last photo was taken from the other side of the line. There used to be a foot crossing, now removed. It was OK in diesel days when you could hear the trains but to the north the sight line was restricted by a curve and the gradient so once electrics started running I stopped crossing there. Buston Barns 47513 Berwick to Newcastle Oct 87 J9322.jpg Buston Barns 56116 up Alcan empties Fort William to North Blyth Jan 89 J9742.jpg Buston Barns 43052 up 7th Jan 90 C13904.jpg Buston Barns 43079 Edinburgh to Kings X June 90 J10988.jpg Buston Barns 37184 37232 37071 down le 16th June 90 C14549.jpg David 43 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold jcarta Posted November 18, 2020 RMweb Gold Share Posted November 18, 2020 8 hours ago, billy_anorak59 said: Mazda 323? Good call, sadly I don't think we'll ever know........ How about we call it a Mazda Cherry? 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Busmansholiday Posted November 18, 2020 Share Posted November 18, 2020 On 17/11/2020 at 16:41, steve4rosegrove said: The Escort might be a rally car - there's lots of 'em so a good shell, 2 door is valuable DVLA indicates it was turned into a fridge a very long time ago. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Porcy Mane Posted November 18, 2020 Share Posted November 18, 2020 On 17/11/2020 at 15:19, DaveF said: Murton coal loader at mine 10th May 92 C16835.jpg This is the rapid loader at Hawthorne Shaft. (Hawthorne Combined Mine & Coking Plant to give it its NCB title). Opened about 1959 it became the centralised drawing shaft for Murton, South Hetton, Eppleton and Elmore Collieries. Murton Colliery, along with the others lost their entire surface SG rail networks with the opening of Hawthorne shaft. Murtons shafts & mine surface were about 2 km North East of your photograph. What Murton did gain from the opening of Hawthorne was the almost constant stench of the cokeworks, it being upwind of the prevailing breeze! Railway photographers virtually always referred to Hawthorn shaft as South Hetton as that is where the original NCB Loco Sheds were located for internal rail network. P 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Market65 Posted November 18, 2020 RMweb Gold Share Posted November 18, 2020 Good evening, David. I like the Buston Barns photo’s which are all of interest. In the last photo’, of 37184, 37232, and 37071 on a down light engine movement, on the 16th June, 1990, you have captured a good view of them on a hot and sunny day. And they all have number two end leading. I don’t think there will be many 37’s coupled together these days like that. With warmest regards, Rob. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Popular Post DaveF Posted November 19, 2020 Author RMweb Gold Popular Post Share Posted November 19, 2020 (edited) Chevington and Widdrington North today, once again on the ECML in Northumberland. It used to be the junction for the line to Amble. Widdrington North Class 254 down Aug 80 J7128.jpg Chevington Class 47 up special Aug 85 J8335.jpg Chevington 43059 down Kings X to Aberdeen Feb 87 J8761.jpg Chevington Class 142 Newcastle to Alnmouth 16th June 90 C14552.jpg Chevington Class 91 up test train 1st weekend of electric trains 15th June 91 C15939.jpg David Edited November 19, 2020 by DaveF 40 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Market65 Posted November 19, 2020 RMweb Gold Share Posted November 19, 2020 Good evening, David. I like the ECML photo’s from Chevington and Widdrington North. All are of interest, and the first photo’ is a most impressive view of the iconic HST, at Widdrington North, on a down express, in August, 1980. With warmest regards, Rob. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Popular Post DaveF Posted November 20, 2020 Author RMweb Gold Popular Post Share Posted November 20, 2020 (edited) A selection from 11 years at Swayfield for today. Swayfield Class 47 up Jan 72 J2810.jpg Swayfield Class 47 up Dec 74 C1837.jpg Swayfield Class 47 down ex pass 13.00 Kings X to Edinburgh Jan 76 C2583.jpg Swayfield 254006 up May 78 J6131.jpg Swayfield Class 254 down Feb 83 J7820.jpg David Edited November 20, 2020 by DaveF 38 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Chris116 Posted November 20, 2020 RMweb Premium Share Posted November 20, 2020 I note that J6131 is a 2+6 HST while J7820 is 2+8. I suspect the 2+6 was a short form due to faults somewhere although others may be able to explain better. Great photos as always. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold DaveF Posted November 20, 2020 Author RMweb Gold Share Posted November 20, 2020 1 minute ago, Chris116 said: I note that J6131 is a 2+6 HST while J7820 is 2+8. I suspect the 2+6 was a short form due to faults somewhere although others may be able to explain better. Great photos as always. Chris, I've just had a look at my photo notes, I saw the formation several times that day so I think it was shuttling back and forth between Grantham and Peterborough on some sort of test runs. David 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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