Dave F's photos - ongoing - more added each day

[Donington Road]

3 hours ago, 31A said:

I thought of Lenwade too, but is it not going the wrong way for that?

 

They have probably come from Dow-Mac at Tallington and heading towards Ely.

[35A]

C1725 - 1C15 was the return Peterborough to Harwich Parkeston Quay, rather than Norwich.

 

There was some confusion around that time, in the mid-70s, when they introduced a parcels service from the Peterborough Parcels Terminal, into East Anglia, that followed about twenty minutes behind the HPQ, coded 3C15. After a couple of years, the Harwich was recoded 1C18.

[Fat Controller]

3 hours ago, keefer said:

Actually, had another look and it seems more like a small bolster wagon under each end of the beam with a spacer wagon between those.

(I originally thought the spacer wagons were at the ends to cover the overhang of the beams)

I think the wagons that carried the beams were largely former Armour Plate wagons. Between these were different types of flats, according to the needs of particular loads. These included Hymac and Rectanks, alongside the more mundane Lowmacs.

[DaveF]

Thanks for the comments and information about the Peterborough photos.

 

Petts Wood on the Southern to start with today.  All were taken on 3rd May 1980, probably the last time I went there before moving to Northumberland.

 

 

 

St Mary Cray Jct Class 73 down carflats 3rd May 80 C5024  location corrected

 

 

 

Petts Wood Class 411 7192 up 3rd May 80 C5026

 

 

Petts Wood Class 201 1007 up  3rd May 80 C5030

 

 

Petts Wood Class 203 1034 down  3rd May 80 C5031

 

 

Petts Wood   Class 415 5135 down 3rd May 80 C5033

 

David

Edited September 1, 2023 by DaveF

[DaveF]

A bit late with the lunchtime set today, other things got in the way.  Some photos taken around Micklefield and Peckfield colliery.

 

 

Micklefield colliery sidings May 67 J898

 

 

Micklefield Peckfield Colliery Hunslet S115 Frank Aug 68 J1377

 

 

Micklefield Peckfield Colliery Hudswell Clarke S100 backing tippers to tip Aug 68 J1378

 

 

Micklefield Peckfield Colliery Hunslet S115 Frank Aug 68 J1377

 

 

Micklefield Peckfield Colliery Hunslet S115 Frank and Class 46 D179 down ex pass Aug 68 J1385

 

David

Edited August 31, 2023 by DaveF

[DaveF]

On the ECML between Peterbrough and Grantham now around Little Bytham 1970/1.

 

 

Little Bytham Class 47 11.10 Bradford to Kings X May 70 J2124

 

 

Little Bytham Class 47 down  13.20 Kings X to Leeds Oct 70 J2418

 

 

Little Bytham Class 47 down March 71 J2531  headcode not in Napier chronicles

 

 

Little Bytham Class 55 9021 down   May 71 J2655  ecs if the headcode is correct.

 

 

Little Bytham Class 40 up empty car carriers   May 71 J2656

 

David

[DaveF]

A few photos now at Nottingham MIdland around 1969/70.  They will have been taken when Dad was dropping me off or picking me up on journeys to and from Manchester.

 

 

Nottingham Class 45 Nottingham to St Pancras Aug 69 J1825

 

 

Notingham view east Feb 70 J2062

 

 

Nottingham Class 45 down freightMay 70 J2101

 

 

Nottingham Class 47 1583 Sheffield to St Pancras Oct 70 J2426

 

 

Nottingham Class 45 72  Oct 70 J2433

 

David

[Market65]

Good evening, David. That’s a great selection of photo’s of Petts Wood, on the Southern, on the 3rd May, 1980. In the first photo’, of a Class 73, on a down train of carflats, you have captured an excellent view of the train. 

 

The photo’s from around Micklefield and Peckfield colliery are full of interest and intrigue. In J1377, of Hunslet, S115, Frank, in August, 1968, your Dad has captured a superb side shot of the locomotive. 

 

That’s a splendid set of photo’s from around Little Bytham, on the ECML, in 1970/1. In J2531, of a Class 47, on a down express, in March, 1971, your Dad has taken a superbly composed shot of the train. I’m not too surprised that the headcode is not in the Napier Chronicles with two blinds not in alignment making it very difficult to read it properly.

 

Finally, the photo’s of Nottingham MIdland, around 1969/70, are a superb selection. In J2426, of Class 47, 1583, on a Sheffield to St Pancras service, in October, 1970, your Dad has taken an excellent shot which is most atmospheric in the dull conditions.
 

With warmest regards,

 

Rob.

[New Haven Neil]

Just catching up again after our guest has (finally...) left.  Loved the early KWVR photos, and the Newcastle ones took me back with a thump to trainspotting on the end of platform 9/10.  No HST's then though, just Deltics and various Sulzers.

 

Thanks again for the memories!

[DaveF]

I had to go out first thing this morning and have only just got back, hence the late start with the photos.

 

The first batch are at Kirkby Stephen, mostly on the Settle and Carlisle, taken in the 1990s.  The last one is of Kirkby Stephen East, the old NER station, now preserved.

 

 

Kirkby Stephen 156486 on right Leeds to Carlisle, on left 156487 Carlisle to Leeds 22nd Feb 93 C18300

 

 

Kirkby Stephen view south 29th Aug 96 C21391

 

 

Kirkby Stephen Midland Cottages 29th Aug 96 C21395

 

 

Kirkby Stephen Northern Spirit 156488 Carlisle to Leeds 15th Apr 99 C24304

 

 

Kirkby Stephen Northern Spirit 156483 Leeds to Carlisle 15th April 99 C24306

 

 

Kirkby Stephen East NER station buildings 29th Aug 96 C21390

 

David

[DaveF]

A few photos from visits to Carlisle in 1987 and 1988.  As on many of my visits to Carlisle the sun decided to hide each day.

 

 

Carlisle 87027 Glasgow to Euston 1st Sept 87 C9092

 

 

Carlisle 85011 down l e 1st April 87 C9094

 

 

Carlisle 47231 down rails from Workington 27th Oct 87 C9193

 

 

Carlisle 81002 and 86407 down FIAT car train 12th April 88 C9414

 

 

Carlisle 86226 Parkeston Quay to Glasgow and Edinburgh 12th April 88 C9437

 

David

[andytrains]

87027s panto' seems to be down!

[Tim Dubya]

24 minutes ago, andytrains said:

87027s panto' seems to be down!

 

"Oh no it isn't!"

[Oldddudders]

I'm probably wrong, never having been lineside there, but am struggling with the location of C5024, which, with that bend, looks more like St Mary Cray Junction on the Chatham line, rather than Petts Wood Junction on the SER. 

[Southernman46]

26 minutes ago, Oldddudders said:

I'm probably wrong, never having been lineside there, but am struggling with the location of C5024, which, with that bend, looks more like St Mary Cray Junction on the Chatham line, rather than Petts Wood Junction on the SER. 

Indeed it is - this is taken from the "other" footbridge - the rear of the train is roughly back at Chislehurst Junction where the single down spur from the SER Charing X lines joins the Down Chatham Fast.

 

That's a splendid set of photos showing the sheer variety of traction on a "boring" EMU railway including a Hastings 6-B with the buffet car still in place prior to early removal before they rusted away / fell to bits. One of these had by then already been converted into The SR General Managers Saloon TDB975025 or "Caroline" as it is now more prosaically known.

Edited September 1, 2023 by Southernman46

[DaveF]

1 hour ago, Oldddudders said:

I'm probably wrong, never having been lineside there, but am struggling with the location of C5024, which, with that bend, looks more like St Mary Cray Junction on the Chatham line, rather than Petts Wood Junction on the SER. 

 

43 minutes ago, Southernman46 said:

Indeed it is - this is taken from the "other" footbridge - the rear of the train is roughly back at Chislehurst Junction where the single down spur from the SER Charing X lines joins the Down Chatham Fast.

 

That's a splendid set of photos showing the sheer variety of traction on a "boring" EMU railway including a Hastings 6-B with the buffet car still in place prior to early removal before they rusted away / fell to bits. One of these had by then already been converted into The SR General Managers Saloon TDB975025 or "Caroline" as it is now more prosaically known.

 

Many thanks for pointing out the location, it's obvious now you've told me.

 

This time I'm going to blame the bacteria which recently took up residence in my chest, they must be muddling my thinking.  Fortunately after several weeks and 2 lots of antibiotics I am slowly improving.

 

David

Edited September 1, 2023 by DaveF

[DaveF]

Around Nottingham London Road Junction, east of Nottingham Midland where the lines to Lincoln and south to Melton Mowbray and beyond diverged.

 

 

Nottingham London Road Junction LMS 2P 40504  parcels c1950 JVol1099

 

 

Nottingham London Road Junction LMS 4F 4401 up goods 1947 JVol1038

 

 

Nottingham London Road Junction Stanier 3MTT 40175 pass Lincoln to Nottingham also trolleybus c1952 JVol2192

 

 

 Nottingham London Road Junction unloading slepers April 54 JVol7013

 

 

Nottingham London Road Junction WD 90156 up goods c1954 JVol2029

 

 

[DaveF]

The ECML again, this time around Corby Glen.

 

 

Corby Glen EE Type 3 up  April 61 J043  Looking at the Napier Chronicles it is probably the 15.20 Shefield Victoria to Kings X   (Sheffield) Pullman.

 

Corby Glen Class 46 Kings X to Newcastle March 70 J2076

 

 

Corby Glen Class 55 9000? Edinburgh to Kings X Aug 70 J2192

 

 

Corby Glen Class 47 down Dec 71 J2793

 

 

Corby Glen Class 31 down parcels Dec 71 J2794

 

 

Corby Glen Class 47 up Dec 71 J2795

 

David

 

Edited September 2, 2023 by DaveF

[Market65]

Good evening, David. That’s a great selection of photo’s of Kirkby Stephen, on the Settle and Carlisle, taken in the 1990’s, with the last one is of Kirkby Stephen East, the old NER station, now preserved. In C21395, at Kirkby Stephen, of the Midland Cottages, on the 29th August, 1996, that’s a beautifully composed shot of the lovely cottages. 

 

The photo’s of Carlisle in 1987 and 1988 are an excellent set. In the first photo’ of 87027, on a Glasgow to Euston service, on the 1st September, 1987, that is a superb photo’ of the 87. And it is exactly 36 years ago today!

 

That’s a splendid selection of black and white photo’s from around Nottingham London Road Junction, east of Nottingham Midland. In JVol2192, of Stanier 3MTT, 40175, on a passenger train from Lincoln to Nottingham, and also a trolleybus, c1952, being a particularly excellent composition. 

 

Finally, the photo’s of the ECML, around Corby Glen, are a superb set. In J2192, of Class 55, 9004, on an Edinburgh to Kings Cross express, in August, 1970, your Dad has taken an excellent shot of the train.

It looks like two photo’s may have the captions transposed, in that J2794, is a second posting of J2793, with a 47 on an express passenger train, rather than a Class 31, on a down parcels train, in December, 1971. Also, J2795, is actually the 31 on the parcels train. I hope that is of help. Regardless, those photo’s are excellent examples of ‘trains in the landscape’ shots. 
 

With warmest regards,

 

Rob.

 

P.S. please don’t worry about posting photo’s each day whilst you are not so well. We will all understand if you need some rest. I’m glad you are now feeling a bit better.

[DaveF]

36 minutes ago, Market65 said:

Good evening, David.

 

Finally, the photo’s of the ECML, around Corby Glen, are a superb set. In J2192, of Class 55, 9004, on an Edinburgh to Kings Cross express, in August, 1970, your Dad has taken an excellent shot of the train.

It looks like two photo’s may have the captions transposed, in that J2794, is a second posting of J2793, with a 47 on an express passenger train, rather than a Class 31, on a down parcels train, in December, 1971. Also, J2795, is actually the 31 on the parcels train. I hope that is of help. Regardless, those photo’s are excellent examples of ‘trains in the landscape’ shots. 
 

With warmest regards,

 

Rob.

 

P.S. please don’t worry about posting photo’s each day whilst you are not so well. We will all understand if you need some rest. I’m glad you are now feeling a bit better.

 

I've got all the photos in the right order with the correct captions now.

 

Many thanks for the note about my health - today has been the best day I've had since the end of July in terms of how I've felt.  It has turned out that as well as an infection I've had some problems with my antihistamines so as the hay fever season is just about over I've stopped taking them and have been recommended an alternative by the paramedic I saw at the surgery today - they now see some of the routine patients with "simple" issues.  I'm told I should be back to normal later in September - and have to ring the local hospital in town to arrange an X ray next week as a precaution.  At least it is omly 5 minutes from home.

 

David

[35A]

So sorry to hear that you've been under the weather for the past few weeks, David. I hope that they've got you sorted out now and that you'll be steadily improving - we're forecast some warmer weather, so let's that that helps "clear you out".  😁

 

I'm going to be a pain and challenge you, again, on J2192. I don't think that it is 9004 - the plate is too short for "QUEEN'S OWN HIGHLANDER". Also, 9004 was in works from 3rd to 21st of August 1970. Clearly, it's one of the four Haymarket ones with a single line plate. It's not 9013 "THE BLACK WATCH", as it has a crest. Zooming the image up, the nameplate has a three word name. Given that - and the fact that it appears to have the square-edged front footstep - I'd respectfully suggest that it was 9000 "ROYAL SCOTS GREY".

[Matt37268]

Regarding C9437, I have a few questions? What route would it have taken? And how many traction changes would it have had en route? Was Parkeston Quay even electrified then?

 

So could this train have even started its journey with an Ilford based 86 and then finished up with another from say Shields Road or Polmadie? 

Apologies if this sounds random, but this sounds like it could be a really interesting cross country working. 

[DaveF]

12 hours ago, 35A said:

So sorry to hear that you've been under the weather for the past few weeks, David. I hope that they've got you sorted out now and that you'll be steadily improving - we're forecast some warmer weather, so let's that that helps "clear you out".  😁

 

I'm going to be a pain and challenge you, again, on J2192. I don't think that it is 9004 - the plate is too short for "QUEEN'S OWN HIGHLANDER". Also, 9004 was in works from 3rd to 21st of August 1970. Clearly, it's one of the four Haymarket ones with a single line plate. It's not 9013 "THE BLACK WATCH", as it has a crest. Zooming the image up, the nameplate has a three word name. Given that - and the fact that it appears to have the square-edged front footstep - I'd respectfully suggest that it was 9000 "ROYAL SCOTS GREY".

 

Thanks very much, I've alltered the caption.

 

12 hours ago, Matt37268 said:

Regarding C9437, I have a few questions? What route would it have taken? And how many traction changes would it have had en route? Was Parkeston Quay even electrified then?

 

So could this train have even started its journey with an Ilford based 86 and then finished up with another from say Shields Road or Polmadie? 

Apologies if this sounds random, but this sounds like it could be a really interesting cross country working. 

 

For many years the train was electrically hauled south to Preston, then diesel, at various times using a 47 or earlier a 37.  It ran via Manchester Victoria, then along the Hope Valley to Sheffield, south along the Midland to Nottingam, then Grantham, Peterborough, Ely, Ipswich and eventually Parkeston Quay.

 

Later it was electrically hauled from Glasgow via Birmingham to Willesden, then round London and down the GER main line to Parkeston Quay.  I don't have any other information about that period.  I believe that following that route the train ran almost empty south of Birmingham.

 

If you hunt about on the web I am sure you will find more details.  Sorry I can't be more help - I only really know about the earlier years as it ran past where my parents used to live between Nottingham and Grantham and Dad often photographed it

 

David

Edited September 2, 2023 by DaveF

[DaveF]

Ratcliffe on Soar this morning, between Trent and Loughborough.  There are 5 photos but only 3 trains.  Photos 2 and 3 show the same train, taken by Dad and I.  Once again there is a small variation in colour between the 2, I think mine was slightly underexposed giving richer colours - or I may have added too much colour when I scanned it.  Once again it shows the problems of relying on images displayed on monitors to show correct colours.

Photos 4 and 5 show the same freight train, approaching and going away.

 

 

Ratcliffe on Soar Class 45 68 Sheffield to St Pancras July 71 J2706

 

 

Ratcliffe on Soar Class 45 136 St Pancras to Sheffield July 71 J2716

 

 

Ratcliffe on Soar Class 45   136 down July 71 C663

 

 

Ratcliffe on Soar  Class 25 D7511 up July 71  July 71 J2718

 

 

Ratcliffe on Soar  Class 25 D7511 up July 71  July 71 J2719

 

David

[DaveF]

Some more Southern photos, this time at Woking on 11th March 1978.

 

 

Woking Class 423 7712 down and Class 31 and Class 73 11th March 78 C3700

 

 

Woking 33029 and 73110  11th March 78 C3701

 

 

Woking Class 33 Waterloo to Exeter  11th March 78 C3702

 

Woking Class 421 7337 down and Class 08  11th March 78 C3703

 

 

Woking Class 423 7741 up  11th March 78 C3704

 

David

 

 

 

 

 

Edited September 2, 2023 by DaveF