Christopher125 Posted June 24, 2014 Share Posted June 24, 2014 Isn't there a 92 rebuild in the works at the moment as well which is adding a diesel generator? Not heard too much about that lately. It's been suggested but I don't believe there is any actual scheme underway. Chris Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium newbryford Posted July 7, 2014 RMweb Premium Share Posted July 7, 2014 The GBRf/Brush 73/9 has broken cover. 73961 Cheers, Mick Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
pilkko Posted July 11, 2014 Share Posted July 11, 2014 DBS tested a modified 92 (92031) that could run at 100 mph, modified ets. Not sure how we'll it worked but with plenty of 90's about and the up coming contract renewal it was shelved. Very possible for Gbrf to do the same. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold griffgriff Posted July 22, 2014 RMweb Gold Share Posted July 22, 2014 Any nicknames for these little beasties yet? ED doesn't quite seem appropriate anymore? I think they have the look of a Cyberman? Any thoughts? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnMartin90125 Posted July 22, 2014 Share Posted July 22, 2014 Any nicknames for these little beasties yet? ED doesn't quite seem appropriate anymore? I think they have the look of a Cyberman? Any thoughts? ED-209? We watched the new Robocop film the other night, can't think of anything else for them. They do seem to be a long time appearing. I wonder how long it will be before they are in service (and will the model appear before they do?) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Trainshed Terry Posted July 23, 2014 RMweb Premium Share Posted July 23, 2014 I'm a tad baffled about these, all the information that I have found about these locos is that they have two engines fitted. Which seams an odd design feature, considering the twin engined locomotives in the past where deemed nonstandard by the BRB and withdraw from service. Could someone enlightening me as to where the radiators and the engines are located. Thank you. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium newbryford Posted July 23, 2014 RMweb Premium Share Posted July 23, 2014 I'm a tad baffled about these, all the information that I have found about these locos is that they have two engines fitted. Which seams an odd design feature, considering the twin engined locomotives in the past where deemed nonstandard by the BRB and withdraw from service. Could someone enlightening me as to where the radiators and the engines are located. Thank you. The Network Rail locos have two engines fitted - only fired up as required. It's a tie-in with the National Railway Equipment Corporation of the US - they have experience of "gen-set" technology using more than one diesel loco. The Brush/GBRf rebuilds have only one diesel engine. Both variants have substantial bodyside modifications to incorporate new cooler groups - as yet, only the NwR 73/9's have showed themselves to the public in any detail. http://paulbigland.zenfolio.com/p119809187 Bear in mind that modern engines pack far more power into a smaller physical size than the 1960's built EE 4SRKT which is why they are now supposedly rated at 1600hp (or so) under diesel mode, when compared to the original 600hp. Cheers, Mick Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SRman Posted July 23, 2014 Share Posted July 23, 2014 So that means that, if the electrics are much the same as before, the continuous power rating is now the same for both diesel and electric power.If that is true, they should still have more 'short-term burst' power as a straight electric if needed. I haven't entirely kept up with this thread so if I have missed or duplicated something here, my apologies. It is nice to see the EDs (or whatever new nickname they receive) being refurbished and given new leases of life. I am sometimes surprised to think no other such versatile machines have come to fruition (including the class 74s which weren't as universally available). They really were/are 'go anywhere, do anything' machines. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bennyboy Posted July 23, 2014 Share Posted July 23, 2014 It is nice to see the EDs (or whatever new nickname they receive) being refurbished and given new leases of life. I am sometimes surprised to think no other such versatile machines have come to fruition (including the class 74s which weren't as universally available). They really were/are 'go anywhere, do anything' machines. Or you could say that they are anytime, anyplace, anywhere machines, so we'll call them Martini's? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
roythebus Posted July 23, 2014 Share Posted July 23, 2014 Littlewoods. They've got more jumpers than a Littlewoods Catalogue! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium newbryford Posted July 23, 2014 RMweb Premium Share Posted July 23, 2014 So that means that, if the electrics are much the same as before, the continuous power rating is now the same for both diesel and electric power. If that is true, they should still have more 'short-term burst' power as a straight electric if needed. Both versions will have AC alternators instead of the original DC generators, so needing at least some modification to the electrical traction systems. In the case of the NwR/NREC 73's, the electrical traction systems are most certainly completely new, so it'd be interesting to see if they still have an extra "boost" when needed. I would expect the GBRf stuff to have new traction packages as well, but I'm not sure. Cheers, Mick Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
surfsup Posted August 3, 2014 Share Posted August 3, 2014 And along came the rather smart looking GBRF version. https://twitter.com/wnxxuk/status/495888236368367616?utm_source=fb&utm_medium=fb&utm_campaign=wnxxuk&utm_content=495888236368367616 Of the two, I rather prefer the GBRF version to the rather messy looking RVEL conversion - the bodyside looks like a 73 as does the slightly more modern looking face, which retains it's SR equipment while gaining a new Multi Working Socket and WIPACs - The RVEL one in this respect looks rather ugly given it's cleaner face and removal of everything but WIPACs. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
25901 Posted August 3, 2014 Share Posted August 3, 2014 Of the two, I rather prefer the GBRF version to the rather messy looking RVEL conversion - the bodyside looks like a 73 as does the slightly more modern looking face, which retains it's SR equipment while gaining a new Multi Working Socket and WIPACs - The RVEL one in this respect looks rather ugly given it's cleaner face and removal of everything but WIPACs. As someone who had done sub con work for RVEL all I can say that they over do everything and thats why everything they do takes so long Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium newbryford Posted August 3, 2014 RMweb Premium Share Posted August 3, 2014 Of the two, I rather prefer the GBRF version to the rather messy looking RVEL conversion - the bodyside looks like a 73 as does the slightly more modern looking face, which retains it's SR equipment while gaining a new Multi Working Socket and WIPACs - The RVEL one in this respect looks rather ugly given it's cleaner face and removal of everything but WIPACs. It's what we've got used to. If the 73 originally had a clean "face" and all the SR high level stuff was then added, then we'd only be complaining at that! In much the same way that 57/3's have received Dellner couplers to muck up the front view. Cheers, Mick Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
159220 Posted August 6, 2014 Share Posted August 6, 2014 Cracking photos on Flickr of 73962, shows the details more. I am going to be controversial and say I think RVELs 73/9 looks more adventerous in re-build stakes. Plus the twin engines in the RVEL version make the Climate Scientist in me happier for saving Diesel. But still, I shall have a model of the GBRf Wabtec 73/9. I quite like the plain livery, but maybe they can put the Europorte red and orange curves? Though I am surprised the Wabtec 73/9s have had such extensive re-build as the RVEL 73/9s as 73964 shows below. Links: https://www.flickr.com/photos/37260/14632361300/ https://www.flickr.com/photos/37260/14818702872/ https://www.flickr.com/photos/37260/14815646491/ And 73963/64: https://www.flickr.com/photos/37260/14632403549/ https://www.flickr.com/photos/37260/14632360540/ https://www.flickr.com/photos/37260/14632429498/ Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
159220 Posted September 17, 2014 Share Posted September 17, 2014 I spy with my little eye something beginning with 73961 on test: https://www.flickr.com/photos/21095258@N03/15246781796/sizes/k/ Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
David41283 Posted September 17, 2014 Share Posted September 17, 2014 I spy with my little eye something beginning with 73961 on test: https://www.flickr.com/photos/21095258@N03/15246781796/sizes/k/ Two of those double heading the highland sleepers is going to be interesting! Wonder what they sound like? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hesperus Posted September 21, 2014 Share Posted September 21, 2014 With all this rebuilding of older loco's to get round the emissions regs I wonder how long it will be before we see an HST power car rebuilt with two cabs? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
modfather Posted September 21, 2014 Share Posted September 21, 2014 You'll be more likely to see another hst re engine project... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Edge Posted May 4, 2015 Share Posted May 4, 2015 Grabbed a few piccies of 73952 at Kidderminster whilst on the SVR today. Will upload when I'm back home. My phone is not co-operating at the moment... EDIT: Here you go: Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bennyboy Posted May 4, 2015 Share Posted May 4, 2015 Wow, its face looks weird without the air pipes, handrail etc. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
luckymucklebackit Posted October 6, 2015 Share Posted October 6, 2015 73966 is now on it's way up the ECML to Craigentinny, accompanied by 66732, currently running 111mins late, so getting into character for the sleeper services by the looks of things. http://www.realtimetrains.co.uk/train/R02084/2015/10/06/advanced Jim Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
eastwestdivide Posted October 6, 2015 Share Posted October 6, 2015 73966 is now on it's way up the ECML to Craigentinny, accompanied by 66732, currently running 111mins late, so getting into character for the sleeper services by the looks of things. http://www.realtimetrains.co.uk/train/R02084/2015/10/06/advanced Jim Was by itself S of Doncaster: Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
luckymucklebackit Posted October 6, 2015 Share Posted October 6, 2015 Was by itself S of Doncaster: K50P1296.jpg Reported passing York with the Shed in tow, it spend half an hour at Doncaster Decoy so it was probably added there. Jim Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold 4630 Posted October 7, 2015 RMweb Gold Share Posted October 7, 2015 73966 at Cawood, north of Doncaster, with 66732 'GBRf The First Decade 1999-2009 John Smith - MD' in tow. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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