brian daniels Posted February 7, 2015 Share Posted February 7, 2015 I'm just building up the tension, but just to confirm, oh it is nice Photo will be taken when it's varnished and got it's windows back in. I should have it at the Bourne End running day tomorrow. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ozzyo Posted February 7, 2015 Share Posted February 7, 2015 Come on man, I want photos and lots of them!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JeffP Posted February 7, 2015 Share Posted February 7, 2015 Calm down...and put photos up! LOL Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
brian daniels Posted February 7, 2015 Share Posted February 7, 2015 (edited) Here you go then, getting fuelled up for the first time. One minor thing though, Nellie did not want to lay down very well. I used Johnsons Klear first but there is still a blemish round her. Hopefully a bit of weathering later will hide it a bit. I have found a couple of Severnmill Brush worksplates for a 31 which will do to put on this. This will be on Heljans stand at Glasgow in a couple weeks, not weathered though. Edited February 7, 2015 by brian daniels 16 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
steve fay Posted February 7, 2015 Author Share Posted February 7, 2015 Looks very nice Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
delticfan Posted February 7, 2015 Share Posted February 7, 2015 Looks like a call to Howes on Monday to book mine. Very crisp moulding of the grilles stunning paint job. I hope this time next year it will be kestrel! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BR_Blue_1986 Posted February 8, 2015 Share Posted February 8, 2015 I wonder which livery will be the most popular. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Downendian Posted February 8, 2015 RMweb Gold Share Posted February 8, 2015 Absolutely stunning Brian. Where did you source the decals for "Falcon" and (is it?) Barbar the elephant? Neil Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
leopardml2341 Posted February 8, 2015 Share Posted February 8, 2015 (edited) Off topic I know - but the departmental 'Clayton' in the background looks far more interesting. Hat and coat etc......... Edited February 8, 2015 by leopardml2341 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JeffP Posted February 8, 2015 Share Posted February 8, 2015 (edited) It does look nice. As to the nameplates, I'm unsure, and would need to see them "in the flesh" as it were. I already have these: Which quite apart from being more raised (as far as I can see), also include the worksplates, complete with correct build date and the all-important works number, 0280, from where Falcon got it's BR running number, D0280, before it went blue. I can't remember the price, they are from Guilplates, and were in my hands within a week of ordering. Edited to say: that's a low res photo, the real things are clearly readable. They do need a little polishing round the edges, but I like them. Edited February 8, 2015 by JeffP 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
steve fay Posted February 8, 2015 Author Share Posted February 8, 2015 So far based on my small orders the green has been the most popular, with the Original lime green and brown on a par with Blue. I like the look of the Falcon transfer and I personally think it has the edge over the Guilplates etched version. It would have been better done in nickel silver than brass. Severn mill do the correct builders plates. Overall though it really looks the part I just hope the other one offs make an appearance, my personal choice next would be lion but I think Kestrel seems to have a bit more of a following. Good times Ahead. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
delticfan Posted February 8, 2015 Share Posted February 8, 2015 Another Kestrel follower! Keep lobbying for it....... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Downendian Posted February 8, 2015 RMweb Gold Share Posted February 8, 2015 There is quite an interesting story regarding the missing Falcon nameplate, replaced by the cartoon elephant as depicted by Brian. The original Falcon crest went missing toward the end of the locos life at Ebbw junction, and no sign of it was ever found in railway memorabilia/ dealers etc. Then (in the last decade) someone advertised "an imperial Eagle crest" which was thought to be a Nazi WW2 artefact, and it sold (as far as I recall) for a pittance or perhaps was withdrawn from sale early. Someone pointed out what it actually was during the auction! Neil Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
brian daniels Posted February 8, 2015 Share Posted February 8, 2015 Surely the Falcon crest made it back onto the loco as there are pictures of it back on with Nellie the Elephants feet poking out beneath it. The transfers I used are from Precision Labels. Heljan are seeing if they can do a Falcon plate with some depth to it in either metal or plastic. It is interesting to know which livery will be the most popular as they are only making 750 of these split between the 3 liveries. Kestrel for me too. The Clayton is my JLTRT one done as a Derby Research one. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobster Posted February 8, 2015 Share Posted February 8, 2015 Brian, do you know the normal production run amount for the other Loco's, or are they all different ?. Cheers, Bob. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Downendian Posted February 8, 2015 RMweb Gold Share Posted February 8, 2015 (edited) I've never seen that photo Brian do you have a link? Edit : here it is http://www.rmweb.co.uk/community/uploads/monthly_09_2014/post-414-0-59070300-1411936611.jpg There's quite a few posts in the 4mm Heljan thread relating this story I may not be 100% accurate, but one plate was lost I'm fairly sure - perhaps Brush replaced it when it returned to Loughborough? Neil Edited February 8, 2015 by Downendian Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
brian daniels Posted February 8, 2015 Share Posted February 8, 2015 (edited) This picture from class 47.co.uk shows Nellies feet poking out. Edited February 8, 2015 by brian daniels 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JeffP Posted February 8, 2015 Share Posted February 8, 2015 (edited) So far based on my small orders the green has been the most popular, with the Original lime green and brown on a par with Blue. I like the look of the Falcon transfer and I personally think it has the edge over the Guilplates etched version. It would have been better done in nickel silver than brass. Severn mill do the correct builders plates. Overall though it really looks the part I just hope the other one offs make an appearance, my personal choice next would be lion but I think Kestrel seems to have a bit more of a following. Good times Ahead. It is nickel silver, it was photographed under artificial light, sorry. Are you sure Severn Mill do the worksplates, the correct number etc? When I asked, they did nothing for Falcon. A decent 3-d crest would be great. The foxes on the Golden age/Loveless A4's add so much to the loco, they weren't flat in real life, neither was this crest. Edit: as regards the missing crest, it went missing late in Falcon's life, but was, allegedly, "found" at the home of an employee, and returned to be reunited with the loco, until withdrawal. Of the two plates, one sold for an amazing £45,000 at the Sheffield auctions of railwayana, the other now resides in the NRM. Edited February 8, 2015 by JeffP Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
steve fay Posted February 8, 2015 Author Share Posted February 8, 2015 Ah that's better then it looks brassy in that light. Take another pic please Jeff if you can. Chris (severnmill) mentioned to me a while a go that he did the correct works plate. As I'm having it in original condition it will have the original transfer applied so I'm not that bothered but the hologram does look good. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pixie Posted February 8, 2015 Share Posted February 8, 2015 I'd certianly be intruiged to see how Heljan replicate the 3D effect if they have a go - there's a lot of layers in a lot directions for something like etching. Pix 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Tomlinson Posted February 9, 2015 Share Posted February 9, 2015 Ah that's better then it looks brassy in that light. Take another pic please Jeff if you can. Chris (severnmill) mentioned to me a while a go that he did the correct works plate. As I'm having it in original condition it will have the original transfer applied so I'm not that bothered but the hologram does look good. Your choice obviously, but I seem to remember that the metal plate was added whilst the loco carried its original livery, and so both options are quite legitimate. John. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
steve fay Posted February 9, 2015 Author Share Posted February 9, 2015 Your choice obviously, but I seem to remember that the metal plate was added whilst the loco carried its original livery, and so both options are quite legitimate. John. Yes that's true but whilst on test on the western she had the transfer. She received the plate and then went on to the Eastern Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JeffP Posted February 9, 2015 Share Posted February 9, 2015 Here's a better pic for you Steve: been up in the stone cold loft for it. It's closer on about three times the resolution of the previous, you can clearly see the workplates are brass, the nameplates nickel silver. Taken in sunlight, (oblique). Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JeffP Posted February 9, 2015 Share Posted February 9, 2015 I'd certianly be intruiged to see how Heljan replicate the 3D effect if they have a go - there's a lot of layers in a lot directions for something like etching. Pix Don't think it can be etched with much more success than the Guilplates version. Chris at Severn Mill seemed to think not, the multi-layers defeat etching, and he should know. LOL The foxes for 60017 done by Golden Age were hand made, then cast, or pressed out of metal. Heljan could do a plastic version painted aluminium, maybe? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BR_Blue_1986 Posted February 9, 2015 Share Posted February 9, 2015 A blue bird has been ordered. Any idea of pricing as yet? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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