JSpencer Posted December 23, 2014 Share Posted December 23, 2014 (edited) Santa's new sleigh? Edited December 23, 2014 by JSpencer 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Colin_McLeod Posted December 23, 2014 RMweb Gold Share Posted December 23, 2014 Santa's new sleigh? Is that why Shildon is closed 24th - 27th December? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andy Reichert Posted December 24, 2014 Share Posted December 24, 2014 I guess there is 50:50 chance that photo was developed posthumously. Andy Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr_Tilt Posted December 24, 2014 Share Posted December 24, 2014 (edited) I guess there is 50:50 chance that photo was developed posthumously. Andy Actually the train was standing still at the time. To prove it here's a pic I took from the cab of the guys taking that pic. Edited February 1, 2016 by Mr_Tilt 13 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matabiau Posted December 24, 2014 Share Posted December 24, 2014 Does this version come with mince pies and sherry propping the door open instead of the infamous sandwich? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gardenwall Posted December 24, 2014 Share Posted December 24, 2014 Does this version come with mince pies and sherry propping the door open instead of the infamous sandwich? Surely the availability of mince pies and sherry would guarantee it was a sandwich proping open the door. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rob Rossington Posted December 24, 2014 Share Posted December 24, 2014 All going well this time next year we will all have 00 scale APT-E running around the place Can't wait! 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Holmesfeldian Posted December 24, 2014 Share Posted December 24, 2014 (edited) Actually the train was standing still at the time. To prove it here's a pic I took from the cab of the guys taking that pic. Was this picture of British Transport Films personnel - who also took this splendid view near Duffield.... (Note the laying of the concrete slab trackbed - PACT - on the Up slow line). Edited December 24, 2014 by Holmesfeldian 5 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr_Tilt Posted December 25, 2014 Share Posted December 25, 2014 (edited) Maybe, the guy kneeling down by the camera tripod and the one to the left in the tan jacket were BTP people. The other two in the shot were APD staff, there so the BTP guys didn't do anything silly, or ask for the impossible. They took the pic that I used as a basis for my Christmas card with the Power Car at 9 deg. of tilt, but then decided they wanted it tilted more 'for the artistic effect'! Luckily we could tilt manually to 12 deg. and that resulted in the head-on pic in colour that epitomises E-Train to many people. In passing, that length of PACT was the second length that BR laid, the first being at Radcliffe-on-Trent that was laid in 1969-70 and I believe it's still there looking at Google Earth. When I first started at BR in September '69 I was in the Track & Structures Dept. and we laid that PACT section using an ex-motorway slip-form paver, an amazing machine! I believe it was the first time that lasers had been used for real work on BR at the time. Edited February 1, 2016 by Mr_Tilt 6 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael Delamar Posted December 27, 2014 Share Posted December 27, 2014 (edited) Not sure if this film has been linked to here... http://youtu.be/y9LkJ1Uzf2M Edited December 27, 2014 by Michael Delamar 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Vistisen Posted December 27, 2014 RMweb Gold Share Posted December 27, 2014 Not sure if this film has been linked to here... http://youtu.be/y9LkJ1Uzf2M Very interesting. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
shreds Posted December 27, 2014 Share Posted December 27, 2014 Maybe, the guy kneeling down by the camera tripod and the one to the left in the tan jacket were BTP people. The other two in the shot were APD staff, there so the BTP guys didn't do anything silly, or ask for the impossible. They took the pic that I used as a basis for my Christmas card with the Power Car at 9 deg. of tilt, but then decided they wanted it tilted more 'for the artistic effect'! Luckily we could tilt manually to 12 deg. and that resulted in the head-on pic in colour that epitomises E-Train to many people. In passing, that length of PACT was the second length that BR laid, the first being at Radcliffe-on-Trent that was laid in 1969-70 and I believe it's still there looking at Google Earth. When I first started at BR in September '69 I was in the Track & Structures Dept. and we laid that PACT section using an ex-motorway slip-form paver, an amazing machine! I believe it was the first time that lasers had been used for real work on BR at the time. That marvellous photo that adorned the rear cover of our Physics textbook! I clearly recall the Radcliffe and Duffield PACT track sections. Always seemed a shame that they laid the PACT in the former up goods line formation at Duffield, resulting in trains slowing to almost walking pace to traverse the slew to pick up the PACT track rather than laying conventional track on the goods and incorporating the PACT track on the up main so that line speed could be maintained after a suitable settling in period? Maybe the need for clearance from the down main or not wanting to relay the up goods first, were factors? Can anyone confirm that the third section of this type of track laid in the Glasgow Queen Street High Level tunnels a few years later as I don't recall any other on my UK travels at that time? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr_Tilt Posted December 27, 2014 Share Posted December 27, 2014 (edited) Can anyone confirm that the third section of this type of track laid in the Glasgow Queen Street High Level tunnels a few years later as I don't recall any other on my UK travels at that time? I'm not sure about it being laid in the Queen St tunnels, but they definitely laid some on the way out of Glasgow Central. During the POP Train tests from Lockerbie to Carstairs in late 1973 I had to take some lateral acceleration data in the cab of the dual Class 50s that operated the route before the 25 kv was fully energised and rode one from Carlisle to Glasgow and back. The PACT track was in place then and it was noticably smoother than sleeper'd track but produced higher ride frequencies, hardly surprising really as it was a lot stiffer. Somewhere I've got a very bad photo of the PACT taken from the cab of the 50, but I haven't scanned it as yet. Edited December 27, 2014 by Mr_Tilt Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
piranha230 Posted December 29, 2014 Share Posted December 29, 2014 I hope they will do the apt-p that would look impressive. 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Ghost of IKB Posted January 2, 2015 Share Posted January 2, 2015 Thanks for posting the OU video Michael. I every time I see anything about apt-p I'm always sad that the project was allowed to fail. Got to agree that I would love to have a train as next years big announcement from rapido Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
srihaggis Posted January 8, 2015 Share Posted January 8, 2015 Looking good, can't wait to get my hands on it. Be interested in the sound more than anything. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tempfix Rich Papper Posted January 11, 2015 Tempfix Share Posted January 11, 2015 Can't wait to see this! I hope it will be the start of big things for Rapido in the UK. Anyone any idea how long Sonning Cutting would be in OO? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold 96701 Posted January 11, 2015 RMweb Gold Share Posted January 11, 2015 Can't wait to see this! I hope it will be the start of big things for Rapido in the UK. Anyone any idea how long Sonning Cutting would be in OO? about 23 metres? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold big jim Posted January 11, 2015 RMweb Gold Share Posted January 11, 2015 as you say mr tilt that picture epitomises the APT and i for one feel privileged to see things from the other side after all these years since the first time i saw the pic when i was about 5 years old! that one picture you took from the cab has cleared up so many things i've always wondered about it regards the PACT track, is there a length of it outside crewe on the potteries loop line (you should see it on google maps if you follow the line out of crewe towards stoke, just alongside the south carriage sidings) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tempfix Rich Papper Posted January 11, 2015 Tempfix Share Posted January 11, 2015 about 23 metres? I need a bigger house. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Budgie Posted January 11, 2015 RMweb Gold Share Posted January 11, 2015 I need a bigger house. Build the line in your garden. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr_Tilt Posted January 13, 2015 Share Posted January 13, 2015 (edited) as you say mr tilt that picture epitomises the APT and i for one feel privileged to see things from the other side after all these years since the first time i saw the pic when i was about 5 years old! that one picture you took from the cab has cleared up so many things i've always wondered about it regards the PACT track, is there a length of it outside crewe on the potteries loop line (you should see it on google maps if you follow the line out of crewe towards stoke, just alongside the south carriage sidings) That's the response I often get when I give my lecture on the APT. 'Oh, THAT'S how they took that photo!' As for the Crewe PACT track I'm afraid I can't help, the only lengths I knew for certain were the ones at Radcliffe on Trent, Duffield and Glasgow Central. I rather lost touch with Track and Structures stiff after I joined APD. I can't see that length you mention south of Crewe I'm afraid, all the track I could see had sleepers of various sorts. If you look at the Radcliffe site, just east of the town, you can see where the original site was, although it looks like they've re-aligned the running tracks straight now. In the pic below the PACT is the white area just south of the track, but it's not taken at high enough resolution to see the difference between the eastbound sleepered track and the westbound PACT, rather sadly. If you follow the line to the east from the test site in the pic you can see quite clearly where the PACT stops and the sleepers start. They must have extended the length since I worked on it as it runs quite a long way to the east. Edited February 1, 2016 by Mr_Tilt Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold big jim Posted January 13, 2015 RMweb Gold Share Posted January 13, 2015 kit: hopefully the link will work.... http://goo.gl/maps/PHjvM i'll try and get a pic next time im down there (but its normally dark!) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
raymw Posted January 13, 2015 Share Posted January 13, 2015 Not sure, but I think if you try Bing maps it becomes a bit clearer - go to 'birds eye view' for aerial photos. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr_Tilt Posted January 13, 2015 Share Posted January 13, 2015 kit: hopefully the link will work.... http://goo.gl/maps/PHjvM i'll try and get a pic next time im down there (but its normally dark!) Ah yes, I was looking in the wrong place. It certainly does look like PACT, you can see where the sleepers start at either end of the stretch. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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