Paul.Uni Posted July 1, 2014 Share Posted July 1, 2014 Image of the Production Sample of the Works Test Train is available on http://www.Bachmann.co.uk/details.php?id=186&vis=2 Looks tempting Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium brushman47544 Posted July 1, 2014 RMweb Premium Share Posted July 1, 2014 Looks like Bachmann might have finally got the limit of the yellow first class line right on the CK on the side we can see, at least for the BR B/G era. Let's hope so and that the ordinary CK expected later this year is correct too. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Ryde-on-time Posted July 1, 2014 RMweb Gold Share Posted July 1, 2014 Saw them at the GCR modelling event and thought they looked superb, the weathering of the roofs especially effective Thought they would not look out of place on a model of a preserved railway judging by state of some knackered old Mk1 that are about Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
60800 Posted July 2, 2014 Share Posted July 2, 2014 Does anyone have any photos of the prototype coaches? I seem to be drawing a blank for the set in this livery on google Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul.Uni Posted July 2, 2014 Author Share Posted July 2, 2014 According to the Kernow page, these models are of: CK ADB977060 SK ADB977057 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Martin_R Posted July 2, 2014 Share Posted July 2, 2014 Some better pics of coaches here: https://railsofsheffield.com/mk1-coach-pack-works-test-train-br-blue-grey-weathered-39-001-JJJA22517.aspx Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium brushman47544 Posted July 2, 2014 RMweb Premium Share Posted July 2, 2014 Some better pics of coaches here: https://railsofsheffield.com/mk1-coach-pack-works-test-train-br-blue-grey-weathered-39-001-JJJA22517.aspx Wow, that's the best weathering on standard release coaches I've seen. With a price to match! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul.Uni Posted July 2, 2014 Author Share Posted July 2, 2014 Am I alone in thinking have a restoration shed on the layout, shunt these in there and some time later shunt "them" out fully restored? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThaneofFife Posted July 3, 2014 Share Posted July 3, 2014 i see one of the coaches has the removable stretcher window. have they gone the extra mile with the detail or does the standard model also have that window???? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Market65 Posted July 3, 2014 RMweb Gold Share Posted July 3, 2014 i see one of the coaches has the removable stretcher window. have they gone the extra mile with the detail or does the standard model also have that window???? Hi, ThaneofFife. The CK stretcher window is indeed a standard feature. I have just photographed a maroon example(my weathering and curtains). Here is the photo'. I hope that this helps. All the best, Market65. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Torn-on-the-platform Posted July 3, 2014 Share Posted July 3, 2014 Saw them at the GCR modelling event and thought they looked superb, the weathering of the roofs especially effective Thought they would not look out of place on a model of a preserved railway judging by state of some knackered old Mk1 that are about It really is a top standard of weathering. I'd say its a little more extreme than any Mk1s I have seen running on a preserved line, but I've seen a lot worse in storage! Its great to finally seen carriage weathering done this way. I'm not interested in these two carriages but I will certainly take inspiration from the effect on the roofs. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sawyermodels Posted July 7, 2014 Share Posted July 7, 2014 the new Works Test Train Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Market65 Posted July 7, 2014 RMweb Gold Share Posted July 7, 2014 Hi. I see we have to weather the wheels! I have one on order anyway! All the best, Market65. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
G-BOAF Posted July 8, 2014 Share Posted July 8, 2014 Hi. I see we have to weather the wheels! I have one on order anyway! All the best, Market65. wheels are half weathered, but it seems where they were hidden by the bogie frames during the painting they are still metal. I presume when they weather locos they are running on a rolling road, which you can't do with a coach. In an ideal world the wheels would have been weathered seperately. Still very impressive models, especially the roof. Not for me, as there are very few blue/grey ex-service coaches on preserved railways any more. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Market65 Posted July 8, 2014 RMweb Gold Share Posted July 8, 2014 Hi. They have arrived in thundery Beverley! The two Mk1 test train coaches are indeed superb. The wheels I mentioned about are indeed partially weathered, in that it is mainly the treads that have received the bulk of the coating. Anyway, I have taken two photo's of them on my layout... First one is the SK, and the next is of the CK. All the best, Market65. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Removed a/c Posted July 8, 2014 Share Posted July 8, 2014 These do look very nice. What class would typically have pulled these? Are there any other carriages that can be added or was it just a loco and these two? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
45059 Posted July 8, 2014 Share Posted July 8, 2014 I believe that these were used by any loco leaving the works before they were returned to traffic, so anything could haul them. The down side, they ran as a complete rake- so you'd need more than just two and with their weathering, (for me at least) they would look odd in a full length formation. I do like them none the less and I do like my departmental stock, so I may buy them to run with other ADB numbered vehicles. If all else fails apply Rule #1! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Removed a/c Posted July 8, 2014 Share Posted July 8, 2014 So I would need more than one pack? or different carriages altogether? Maybe Bachmann will be releasing others to complete? Do you know what was in a full rake? I was thinking though of just these two with my Class31. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
45059 Posted July 8, 2014 Share Posted July 8, 2014 I believe that the works test trains were made up of whatever coaches that were retired from capital stock, and handed over for departmental duties, therefore as long as the train has a brake vehicle you should be able to form the rake as you see fit. (Remember, Rule#1 applies.) Doubtless someone else on this site with superior knowledge to myself will be able to give you a more accurate run down of the formations of the rakes used. I have the 'spotters' books for departmental stock upstairs, which may list them- but I'm not up to going through the whole book to find out! I also remember seeing a picture of a works test train using very shabby maroon mk1s long into the era of blue/grey. It was a great picture, but regrettably I can't remember for the life of me if the image was on this site, elsewhere on the web, or one of my books- If I find it I'll post it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Removed a/c Posted July 8, 2014 Share Posted July 8, 2014 Thanks for the info much appreciated. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
DIRTY DIESEL Posted July 9, 2014 Share Posted July 9, 2014 When I first saw these coaches I thought the title was wrong as to me they are too clean,they look like the vac/steam heat only rake of MK1's that use to be used on "The Bangor" (Man Vic to Bangor) before it went dual heat and duel braked in the early 80's. The Crewe works Test Train was that dirty you would n't know what was under the muck coach wise. If I were to buy these I would have to stick a class 40 on the front and re number them back to normal coaching stock. lol Very nice coaches mind.... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
GordonC Posted July 9, 2014 Share Posted July 9, 2014 The roof weathering looks superb! I'm just pondering buying a set for the roof to swap out on other normal, in-service sets! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
87023Velocity Posted July 9, 2014 Share Posted July 9, 2014 Found a few pictures on Flickr of the Doncaster Works test train with Mk1's, no close ups unfortunately. Did manage to look at these earlier in Hattons and thought Bachmann have done a good job. https://www.flickr.com/photos/28178727@N08/8389584469/in/photolist-dMmPb6-hukNp2-ebF3w3-mfBx9y-hSpqbC-j79TrA-hewKrX-emQk7y-7NpzEQ-9LkQY1-emQjwC-bUGVWv-dQ4QvG-9uJvm6-avKs7u-nfTbHi-hmZyY7-ebvomx-aFb3at-gQhuYr-emQmfQ-eDSqio-dpdQCB https://www.flickr.com/photos/23987565@N05/8171607304/in/photolist-ds6Ca7-nvi2ja-hewKrX-emQk7y-9ye7hG-7NpzEQ-9LkQY1-kbzYry-mUb8ay-nK3ivb-bvry1m-eWGGEt-jzJvaa-emQjwC-frvf9d-bUGVWv-e3ngQE-dQ4QvG-9uJvm6-nc9UUu-nb3pq5-bYzS7L-a3Eyyb-akDC9V-df2xML-jKCyfd-avKs7u-nfTbHi-9PkMzz-9tUiSH-b24pfB-bWCoYG-a3EnDL-hmZyY7-ebvomx-aFb3at-gQhuYr-emQmfQ-eDSqio-mU4swx-dpdQCB-hBD2Wh-dbXDw3-jzskzo-bD2czb-8QrBw3-9bQgyY-o132Eg-bwZMuB-kCeqfz-kJDKBA https://www.flickr.com/photos/87413031@N03/8238077507/in/photolist-dxYir6-f1sRgu-m4oPG4-imGjcw-mj2mLp-dwtWcM-jzurTm-dcrtNK-cXkiK7-eKvG4w-7BJgZN-dzf7Zx-a3EAy3-83Fhe1-kJCf5c-aWqc1D-nhv9FY-dWGLbn-jByfGx-eYVjsE-eWTzfG-cc5r3L-aemAh9-goEESp-epDCiP-eWTASm-dy5fgY-jAkpmD-f76dxZ-obYcrc-eWTCQq-gn1sJQ-n97agb-hW7Qy5-aZQsFn-iprZSU-ec4MjS-ncFNCF-o8WbrS-bszyPm-fuNTq4-e3BfPL-eDWhca-8bzRtA-nYDYG2-hBCwGh-nYnhwy-naCA5F-nWSBCM-9YHfCn-nqnni2 https://www.flickr.com/photos/96859208@N07/9383296317/in/photolist-fiaR5Z-nzKKHF-dTs7rY-bYD6Hw-hjDBVG-cuyX4S-dHUfHh-dFcs9L-bDqPNC-dCtBsw-dJZj7J-n6k4UR-fAPBVx-8oXofj-fQ9fNN-ag7Mgm-a3qrT4-cApD9d-iquizj-aUcVFc-eoucDW-bgJpXD-bgJoT6-8D74dt-bWbfyg-gf4aaB-eoT4aN-nH9k7R-nV1fpV-ockUxE-gf3gSh-gf3MW6-nbuq3D-naCfPh-e1fohA-ocuGez-nV1ffg-dFGM7U-nYCVoS-gjfcFJ-c6PcLb-j4j36E-f98mdM-dALY1J-j4ijcD-c9LStm-f98m1z-ejYMZU-hj4TGZ-8wrYvT-bEDBxk Cheers Simon Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
colbard Posted July 9, 2014 Share Posted July 9, 2014 Hi all, Received mine today - bit of a new experience for me as essentially I am an 'n gauge' man - apart from my 2 Kernow Dapol OO westerns - hence the purchase. Bit disappointed with the couplers - seem very old style - got a 'bag o bits' in with them but nothing like I'm used to with n gauge NEM coupling options. Maybe I'm missing something here? Thanks colbard Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fat Controller Posted July 9, 2014 Share Posted July 9, 2014 I remember seeing Doncaster test trains at Gateshead in the early 1980s; whenever possible, they'd route them over the High Level and King Edward bridges, to save running round. By then, most, if not all, of the coaches being used had their windows covered with sheets of plywood. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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