RMweb Gold The Stationmaster Posted February 20, 2015 RMweb Gold Share Posted February 20, 2015 The ship carrying them is in the Mediterranean, currently roughly midway between Crete and the coast of Libya and making 21 knots. Appears to have left Port Said on time Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JSpencer Posted February 21, 2015 Share Posted February 21, 2015 The ship carrying them is in the Mediterranean, currently roughly midway between Crete and the coast of Libya and making 21 knots. Appears to have left Port Said on time Let us hope it does not fall to Islamist pirates. Imagine videos of well tanks being decapitated? 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
phil gollin Posted February 21, 2015 Share Posted February 21, 2015 . I note that the destination is now Southampton (maybe Cornish smugglers could intercept it). Strange how it was going 28 knots in the Indian Ocean, but only 21-odd knots in the Med. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Les1952 Posted February 21, 2015 Share Posted February 21, 2015 Fewer pirates and more innocent bystanders to run into in the Med? Or, more likely got through the Canal ahead of schedule and is running more slowly to save fuel. Les Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold The Stationmaster Posted February 21, 2015 RMweb Gold Share Posted February 21, 2015 (edited) . I note that the destination is now Southampton (maybe Cornish smugglers could intercept it). Strange how it was going 28 knots in the Indian Ocean, but only 21-odd knots in the Med. As it's only officially capable of 23.6 knots it sounds as if it might have been getting some help from the tide somewhere. Online records show maximum speed of only 22 knots since leaving Colombo. Incidentally it has always had Southampton listed as a port of call. Edited February 21, 2015 by The Stationmaster Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JSpencer Posted February 22, 2015 Share Posted February 22, 2015 . I note that the destination is now Southampton (maybe Cornish smugglers could intercept it). Strange how it was going 28 knots in the Indian Ocean, but only 21-odd knots in the Med. 28 knots is extremely fast for a merchant ship, most don't get past 22 knots. If they want a ship to capable of 28 knots instead of 22, they would need to at least redesign the hull form and increase engine power by about 4 times with 4 times the cost in fuel consumption. Most warships are designed to operate around 28 knots maximum but cruise around the 20 knot mark. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Oldddudders Posted February 22, 2015 RMweb Gold Share Posted February 22, 2015 JSpencer, on 21 Feb 2015 - 18:00, said:Let us hope it does not fall to Islamist pirates. Imagine videos of well tanks being decapitated? Somehow disembowelled seems more appropriate for a well-tank. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold The Stationmaster Posted February 23, 2015 RMweb Gold Share Posted February 23, 2015 The ship has just passed through the Straits of Gibraltar - (it is the one sitting on the Barcelona - ES - Tanger -MA marked course to the south, south west of Tarifa). Fingers crossed as it will be in the Bay i/of Biscay when the storms arrive tomorrow) 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
luke_stevens Posted February 23, 2015 Share Posted February 23, 2015 Now due east of Cadiz bearing 285 degrees. Can there have been a ship so eagerly awaited by railway modelers? (It will only be when it gets to Southampton that we'll discover it actually on a different ship!) Luke Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
DJM Dave Posted February 23, 2015 Share Posted February 23, 2015 Now due east of Cadiz bearing 285 degrees. Can there have been a ship so eagerly awaited by railway modelers? (It will only be when it gets to Southampton that we'll discover it actually on a different ship!) Luke Yup, it's all been transhipped to the SS Saucy Sue, currently anchored in Jamaica with the English Cricket team and the Balinese goddess of plenty ;-) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold The Stationmaster Posted February 23, 2015 RMweb Gold Share Posted February 23, 2015 Now due east of Cadiz bearing 285 degrees. Can there have been a ship so eagerly awaited by railway modelers? (It will only be when it gets to Southampton that we'll discover it actually on a different ship!) Luke Yes, this is a whole new sport (distraction?) for the model railway world - watching new releases approaching the country. Just think how Hornby could boost their reputation by giving the names of ships to watch as they approach our shores (currently off Cape St Vincent in the case of this one) and then the disappointment/shouts of rage when it turns out the container had been landed at Port Said or Alexandria or wherever because of where it was stowed (I understand that is why Bachmann give a 'number of days' indication rather than anything firmer as containers have been know to 'change route a bit' while heading for the UK). And just think how handy things could have been for Kernow if Falmouth container terminal had ever got off the ground (mind you no doubt then the container would go to Birmingham to be unload so perhaps not such a good idea as it sounds!) 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
DJM Dave Posted February 23, 2015 Share Posted February 23, 2015 The thing to remember here is that there are still a number of factors that can still delay the shipment to Kernow and subsequently the modeller, so I'd advise against getting too excited. 1) mechanical problems with the ship 2) high winds at port meaning that unloading is suspended 3) de vanning delayed due to staff unavailability 4) unavailability of suitable vehicle to go to cornwall 5) wheather on route to cornwall 6) road congestion 7) unavailability of unloading staff at Kernow ( most unlikely) 8) unavailability of Dave to test all the models at Kernow ( unlikely) So all is not as clear cut as it seems, but keep the faith. Cheers Dave 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Joseph_Pestell Posted February 23, 2015 RMweb Gold Share Posted February 23, 2015 . I note that the destination is now Southampton (maybe Cornish smugglers could intercept it). Strange how it was going 28 knots in the Indian Ocean, but only 21-odd knots in the Med. 28 knots for a cargo boat! I doubt it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold The Stationmaster Posted February 23, 2015 RMweb Gold Share Posted February 23, 2015 The thing to remember here is that there are still a number of factors that can still delay the shipment to Kernow and subsequently the modeller, so I'd advise against getting too excited. 1) mechanical problems with the ship 2) high winds at port meaning that unloading is suspended 3) de vanning delayed due to staff unavailability 4) unavailability of suitable vehicle to go to cornwall 5) wheather on route to cornwall 6) road congestion 7) unavailability of unloading staff at Kernow ( most unlikely) 8) unavailability of Dave to test all the models at Kernow ( unlikely) So all is not as clear cut as it seems, but keep the faith. Cheers Dave You missed out the Atlantic storms due tomorrow Incidentally when I did some work a few years back on traffic to/from the Southampton area the average time a lorry sat waiting outside the port in the queue to collect a container was as much as 12 hours on some days of the week - assuming the container is actually cleared promptly by the authorities there is still the 'small' problem of getting it out of the port. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold The Stationmaster Posted February 24, 2015 RMweb Gold Share Posted February 24, 2015 Now slowed right down and currently only making just over 11 knots - probably due to the weather as there is currently a Severe Gale, Force 9, with rough seas in that neck of the woods according to the Met Office (Everything else seems to be going slowly as well, except for a German destroyer which is charging along at 21.5 knots in the Bay of Biscay!) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Legend Posted February 24, 2015 RMweb Premium Share Posted February 24, 2015 I'm constantly impressed by the innovation of RMwebbers. Tracking the cargo ship and plotting the weather. Its like a scene from Sink the Bismark! Where were you when we needed you Stationmaster ? German Destroyer at 21.5 knots Beattie tanks off the starboard bow Captain Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
DJM Dave Posted February 24, 2015 Share Posted February 24, 2015 Now slowed right down and currently only making just over 11 knots - probably due to the weather as there is currently a Severe Gale, Force 9, with rough seas in that neck of the woods according to the Met Office (Everything else seems to be going slowly as well, except for a German destroyer which is charging along at 21.5 knots in the Bay of Biscay!) Are the Germans after the Beatties? Quick, send out a squadron of Swordfish to torpedo the rudder! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
6892 Oakhill Grange Posted February 24, 2015 Share Posted February 24, 2015 Are the Germans after the Beatties? Quick, send out a squadron of Swordfish to torpedo the rudder! More likely a German battle cruiser after the Beatty. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold The Stationmaster Posted February 24, 2015 RMweb Gold Share Posted February 24, 2015 Are the Germans after the Beatties? Quick, send out a squadron of Swordfish to torpedo the rudder! No need to worry - the destroyer was a good hundred miles ahead of the Well Tanks and steaming away from them - however it has now disappeared off the plot due to the coverage gap in the Bay of Biscay (in addition a Norwegian warship has sailed from Plymouth but it might head the wrong way unless it's going home the long way round). All you need to worry about is the weather not getting so bad that it 'disrupts the cargo' on the container ship Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Trevellan Posted February 24, 2015 RMweb Gold Share Posted February 24, 2015 Interesting to see all this nautical stuff. I might decide to start a thread on parametric rolling, which could mean the shipment ending up in the drink Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
DJM Dave Posted February 24, 2015 Share Posted February 24, 2015 I would like to request a 00 gauge model of the container ship, and a special DJM container, with models in side.. can you 3D scan the ship and the container with the doors open and a few models falling out as they arrive ? :-) Noooooooo, not falling out. Although I like the idea of a 3D scan of the ship for a model though. Mind you a scale container port might be a tad large eh? 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Les1952 Posted February 24, 2015 Share Posted February 24, 2015 Depends which scale- remember Minic ships? Les 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
DJM Dave Posted February 25, 2015 Share Posted February 25, 2015 Leverkusen Express currently making good time for its rendevou in Southampton tomorrow. Coming up to be abeam Brest in a couple of hours. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Vistisen Posted February 25, 2015 RMweb Gold Share Posted February 25, 2015 (edited) This brings a whole new dimension to track and trace. We need to know what road haulage company is doing the next stretch of the journey, then the workplans of the warehousing people at Kernow, the routes to the local postal sorting office, and possibly the coffee breaks of the individual postmen. Edited February 25, 2015 by Vistiaen Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Oldddudders Posted February 25, 2015 RMweb Gold Share Posted February 25, 2015 Vistiaen, on 25 Feb 2015 - 15:09, said:This brings a whole new dimension to track and trace. We need to know what road haulage company is doing the next stretch of the journey, then the workplans of the warehousing people at Kernow, the routes to the local postal sorting office, and possibly the coffee breaks of the individual postmen. Are you planning a hijack? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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