RMweb Premium Foxley Posted July 23, 2014 RMweb Premium Share Posted July 23, 2014 Don't you just love that fantastic feeling when you finish a model and prime it ready for painting? I know I do! Having recently completed one of Connoisseur Models excellent LNER Lowmac's in Brass I was really excited to get painting and weathering, but wait.. I can't for the life of me find any reference pictures to use for painting and weathering. Can anyone help? The kit is of an LNER Low Machine Wagon 20 Ton Lowmac - L and as quoted from Jim's site: PROTOTYPE. Ten of these wagons were built in 1913 by the NER for the transportation of traction engines and heavy machinery. The wagons were designed so that tall road engines could be driven onto them from an end loading dock and then secured on the well deck within the railway loading gauge. These wagons ran in service into the 1960’s as British Railways Lowmac EL. After searching Google for a considerable amount of time and a number of other places, I've come up with nothing. It's easy to find pictures of Lowmac's from other regions and differing designs, I just can't seem to come up with any pictures of this one. Ideally I'm looking for the rusted/beat up type, if anyone can point me in the right direction I would be very much obliged. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
66C Posted July 24, 2014 Share Posted July 24, 2014 The only photograph I have come across is on page 98 of Peter Tatlow's "A Pictorial Record of LNER Wagons" - ISBN 0 902888 92 7. It shows NE 68932 in service with what appears to be a crippled SR open wagon as a load. The photograph is monochrome and so may not be of much help with weathering. Regards. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adam Posted July 24, 2014 Share Posted July 24, 2014 I can't see how one of these would have weathered any differently or been treated especially differently by painters than any other Lowmac? Since there were only 10 of the things and it's unlikely that they made it much past c. 1960 as BR renewed its fleet and reduced its size there may simply be no pictures. The only LNER vehicle close to that vintage in Paul Bartlett's collections, for example is this one: http://paulbartlett.zenfolio.com/lnerlowmac/h352ca979#h352ca979 http://paulbartlett.zenfolio.com/lnerlowmac/h352ca979#h34c46369 This was presumably sold out of service either by the LNER or, more likely, by BR and might, if the GNR axlebox is any guide, be a GNR vehicle. You may simply have to go for a 'best guess' on this one. Adam Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rob Pulham Posted July 24, 2014 Share Posted July 24, 2014 Hi Mic, While I can't point you at any better prototype information than has already been shared, I recently built, painted and weathered one of these and you can find details of it here Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
hmrspaul Posted July 24, 2014 Share Posted July 24, 2014 IF this is LNER diag 28 there were only 3 in revenue use in Sept. 1959 - 9228; 76804; 78854. None by Jan 1964. Paul 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Foxley Posted July 26, 2014 Author RMweb Premium Share Posted July 26, 2014 Thank you all for your replies, I knew some great information would be passed along. It seems this Lowmac is more unique than most, something I never thought of when I purchased it, still, since any sort of pictorial evidence is sparse at best it gives me pretty much free reign on how I weather it. Sounds good in my book. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Blandford1969 Posted March 18, 2019 RMweb Premium Share Posted March 18, 2019 I managed to get a set of 4mm etches for this wagon, which have been a joy to put together. However there are no castings and Jim when asked about the axle boxes pointed me just to the Wizzard site. Can anyone please tell me what sort of Axle box is fitted to these wagons and if anyone knows of a manufacturer in 4mm which supplies them? Cheers Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steamport Southport Posted March 18, 2019 Share Posted March 18, 2019 They'll be on the Wizard site under 51L. I take it they are NER types. Post 1913 they would be oil rather than grease. https://www.wizardmodels.ltd/product-category/wagons/?filter_2_railway_company=ner-north-eastern-railway&filter_3_manufacturer=51l http://www.51l.co.uk/nerwcom.htm I've a feeling these are the type you need. But I'm not positive. https://www.wizardmodels.ltd/shop/wagons/nerc006/ Jason 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Blandford1969 Posted March 18, 2019 RMweb Premium Share Posted March 18, 2019 4 hours ago, Steamport Southport said: They'll be on the Wizard site under 51L. I take it they are NER types. Post 1913 they would be oil rather than grease. https://www.wizardmodels.ltd/product-category/wagons/?filter_2_railway_company=ner-north-eastern-railway&filter_3_manufacturer=51l http://www.51l.co.uk/nerwcom.htm I've a feeling these are the type you need. But I'm not positive. https://www.wizardmodels.ltd/shop/wagons/nerc006/ Jason Thanks Jason, that's brilliant. I know my way round locos, but wagons are a mystery! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crewe North Posted March 19, 2019 Share Posted March 19, 2019 Following on from this......I have one of these excellent kits built and painted but for the life of me I can't seem to locate suitable transfers, has anybody located a source please. John Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barclay Posted March 19, 2019 Share Posted March 19, 2019 I lettered mine using the HMRS Pressfix transfer sheet. It seems to cover most wagon types. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crewe North Posted March 19, 2019 Share Posted March 19, 2019 Thanks for that....will investigate John Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Baldyoldgit Posted March 19, 2019 RMweb Premium Share Posted March 19, 2019 Here is a picture of the castings supplied with the kit, just started building mine. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Blandford1969 Posted March 19, 2019 RMweb Premium Share Posted March 19, 2019 Thanks for the picture. The buffer looks like an NER 4 bolt version and the axlebox helps with comparing to what is available, even if the hangers have to be fabricated. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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