brylonscamel Posted February 23, 2016 Share Posted February 23, 2016 Hmmm .. makes me realise how much our trackwork needs some realistic weathering! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold PjKing1 Posted February 23, 2016 Author RMweb Gold Share Posted February 23, 2016 Hmmm .. makes me realise how much our trackwork needs some realistic weathering! Cheers mate, it's something which I struggled with when I tried weathering the track on my original OO gauge ELJ, I was using the airbrush and to be honest it was that bad I nearly binned it. So it was a last ditch attempt to salvage what is done using powders that made me stumble across this method which seems to work so well. It's very time consuming but well worth the effort and I love doing it Thanks Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
brylonscamel Posted February 23, 2016 Share Posted February 23, 2016 Cheers mate, it's something which I struggled with when I tried weathering the track on my original OO gauge ELJ, I was using the airbrush and to be honest it was that bad I nearly binned it. So it was a last ditch attempt to salvage what is done using powders that made me stumble across this method which seems to work so well. It's very time consuming but well worth the effort and I love doing it Thanks Have you revealed your 'method' in one of your posts? (or is it a secret!) 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold PjKing1 Posted February 23, 2016 Author RMweb Gold Share Posted February 23, 2016 Haha no secret page 60 post #1482 buddy, an if you go back to around page 40 I'm sure there's the method again for the OO gauge weathering, just a mix of various coloured powders and the odd bit of paint Hope that helps Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold PjKing1 Posted February 23, 2016 Author RMweb Gold Share Posted February 23, 2016 Just been reading back through this thread and can't believe it's reached 61 followers and 73 pages so a big thank you to all its very much appreciated Progress is a little slow at the moment as I'll have to order a few more little bits before I can carry on but what I do want to say is I'm so glad I didn't give up on ELJ and this will be my one and only project so here's to another 73 pages Thanks to all once again. 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Enterprisingwestern Posted February 23, 2016 RMweb Gold Share Posted February 23, 2016 Couple of hours today modelling so I set to work on another parcels van an a MK1 buffet, I've added screw links to the parcels but still need to fit them to the buffet, Excuse me, no screw links on the buffet please, just hook and drop head buckeye will suffice. Mike. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Enterprisingwestern Posted February 23, 2016 RMweb Gold Share Posted February 23, 2016 Cracking stuff as always PaulOooh you've got a blue Mainline/Replica RBR....!!!!On the hunt for one of those - with some close coupling mechanisms fitted plus flush glazing wont be able to tell it apart easily from Bacchy stock - just done an FO to the same standardsPhil You should have mentioned it before last weekend Phil, I've got shoals of them. Mike Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold PjKing1 Posted February 24, 2016 Author RMweb Gold Share Posted February 24, 2016 Excuse me, no screw links on the buffet please, just hook and drop head buckeye will suffice. Mike. Good job I haven't fitted any yet, I knew all this fine scale modelling was to intelligent for me As for the wheels I fitted I'm not to fussed on the Alan Gibson wheel sets, they're not happy with one of the points were as everything else I've got runs through fine Cheers Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Derekstuart Posted February 24, 2016 Share Posted February 24, 2016 (edited) Paul RE: Gibson's have you checked back to back and made sure the wheel is true on the axle? I have to say that I am not a great fan of Gibson wheels either. I can very much recommend 'phoning Branchlines. Their wheel range is smaller, but the quality is superb, the bloke is incredibly helpful and they are around the same price as Gibson. If I want something that Branchlines don't do then I will do the same as many others- pay more and wait 6 months for Ultrascale. Edited February 24, 2016 by Derekstuart Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Module00 Posted February 24, 2016 Share Posted February 24, 2016 Really nice project, i like it very well. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold PjKing1 Posted February 24, 2016 Author RMweb Gold Share Posted February 24, 2016 Paul RE: Gibson's have you checked back to back and made sure the wheel is true on the axle? I have to say that I am not a great fan of Gibson wheels either. I can very much recommend 'phoning Branchlines. Their wheel range is smaller, but the quality is superb, the bloke is incredibly helpful and they are around the same price as Gibson. If I want something that Branchlines don't do then I will do the same as many others- pay more and wait 6 months for Ultrascale. Thanks Derek, their loco wheels are ok (for now) the ultrascale are far better and I'll use these on the locos but I thought Gibson coach wheels would be ok but just not impressed. I'll check out Branchlines, haven't forgot about the 37 Derek I'm just struggling to grab five mins at the mo Thanks again Really nice project, i like it very well. Thanks very much Cheers 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Derekstuart Posted February 24, 2016 Share Posted February 24, 2016 Don't worry about the 37 at the moment Paul. I haven't got to that point yet. I am still on stage 2 procrastination. I am going to order a set of Ultrascale (no idea what- I think it's a case of order the wheels and then go out to buy a loco to run on them) and see how they compare. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold PjKing1 Posted February 24, 2016 Author RMweb Gold Share Posted February 24, 2016 I went straight for the big beast and fitted a 40 with them, although mine were an expo bargain. I really need a set for an 08, I anyone is selling any let me know Cheers Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest bri.s Posted February 25, 2016 Share Posted February 25, 2016 I've just read Romford do the wheels and cranks for the 08 ,remember it'll need quartering and the guys on the 70's em website added better pickups Brian Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest bri.s Posted February 25, 2016 Share Posted February 25, 2016 Think you'll need the EM axles aswell I'd ask someone who's done a conversion to see what's involed ,if it's owt like the 2mm conversion there's a fair bit of messing around involved Brian 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
leopardml2341 Posted February 25, 2016 Share Posted February 25, 2016 Bri, Romford wheels are (or at least used to be) self quartering in so far as the have a square axle end EM gauge society has a manual sheet for the job too IIRC. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest bri.s Posted February 25, 2016 Share Posted February 25, 2016 Bri, Romford wheels are (or at least used to be) self quartering in so far as the have a square axle end EM gauge society has a manual sheet for the job too IIRC. That does make it easier lol ,ill be interested to see if they fit straight into the chassis without any chassis mods ,do the wheels fit behind the outside frames without any milling ? Brian 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest bri.s Posted February 25, 2016 Share Posted February 25, 2016 Just seen this thread lol It might answer my questions http://www.rmweb.co.uk/community/index.php?/topic/108570-Bachmann-08-em-conversion/&do=findComment&comment=2214548 Brian 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold PjKing1 Posted February 25, 2016 Author RMweb Gold Share Posted February 25, 2016 Cheers Brian I'll take a look, if it looks complicated though I'll go for the easy option of pop in ultrascale Cheers Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Captain Kernow Posted February 25, 2016 RMweb Gold Share Posted February 25, 2016 Cheers Brian I'll take a look, if it looks complicated though I'll go for the easy option of pop in ultrascale Cheers Hi Paul, I've done a few Bachmann 08 conversions to P4, using Ultrascale drop-in wheelsets, and it's generally pretty straightforward. A couple of bits of advice, though, if you go down this road: - thin the brake rodding to about half the width of the plastic mouldings, this gives a little more play (not sure how that would pan out in EM, though) - I replaced all the pick-ups, as I found it very difficult to correctly align the Bachmann pick-ups onto the wider wheelsets. I cut a piece of copper-clad paxolin and epoxied it to the chassis keeper plate, then soldered back-wiper pick-ups from p/b strip. I used the original pick-ups from the central wheelsets to connect the new pick-ups, using a short piece of very thin multi-strand wire to connect each side. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Phil Bullock Posted February 25, 2016 RMweb Gold Share Posted February 25, 2016 You should have mentioned it before last weekend Phil, I've got shoals of them. Mike Only just seen this post mike...sounds like you have cornered the market in them too! Pm sent... Cheers phil Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold PjKing1 Posted February 25, 2016 Author RMweb Gold Share Posted February 25, 2016 Hi Paul, I've done a few Bachmann 08 conversions to P4, using Ultrascale drop-in wheelsets, and it's generally pretty straightforward. A couple of bits of advice, though, if you go down this road: - thin the brake rodding to about half the width of the plastic mouldings, this gives a little more play (not sure how that would pan out in EM, though) - I replaced all the pick-ups, as I found it very difficult to correctly align the Bachmann pick-ups onto the wider wheelsets. I cut a piece of copper-clad paxolin and epoxied it to the chassis keeper plate, then soldered back-wiper pick-ups from p/b strip. I used the original pick-ups from the central wheelsets to connect the new pick-ups, using a short piece of very thin multi-strand wire to connect each side. Thanks Captain I've added extra pick ups on all my 08's anyway in this way so shouldn't be to difficult to adjust them, thanks for the advice just need to order a set now Cheers 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Derekstuart Posted February 25, 2016 Share Posted February 25, 2016 Having just looked at Ultrascale's website- £70 is pretty expensive, though no doubt this reflects the high quality and undoubted challenging production process for these wheels. I think my Gibson 08 set was about 1/4 of that; the Gibson's look fairly good (how they compare when close up to Ultrascale I could not say) but as there is going to be a bit of adjustment when quartering them, I wonder how they will cope given about 1/4 of their wheels so far have been filed in the bin (I understand this is not just me and even really experienced users are saying the same- so I understand). 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold PjKing1 Posted March 2, 2016 Author RMweb Gold Share Posted March 2, 2016 Not much done over the last couple of weeks due to one thing or another but Monday and last night seen the cleaning of the track finished and ELJ was then tested with D5000. Things ran pretty smoothly apart from a bit of a bumpy ride through one of the points, hopefully nothing that can't be sorted. Even the brake tender got a run out! Once I've given the 40 a clean all give that a go and see if it behaves just as well. Cheers 8 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
themagicspanner Posted March 2, 2016 Share Posted March 2, 2016 Much better... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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