admiles Posted August 7, 2014 Share Posted August 7, 2014 Of to Koblenz and Trier for a few days the week after next and just wondering if anyone has any information on the remaining class 103 electrics? I seem to remember a couple where still being used on selected IC diagrams, including one through Koblenz. Last year I managed a day in Koblenz but the train produced a 120 instead of the diagrammed 103 Are they still used on any regular IC working through the area? I'm also hoping the 181s are still hanging on to life too. I just love the design of them! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
40F Posted August 7, 2014 Share Posted August 7, 2014 I think the two diagrammed 103 workings are between Munich and Stuttgart. They used to run two round trips a day from Nurnberg to Munich. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
byron Posted August 7, 2014 Share Posted August 7, 2014 I think the two diagrammed 103 workings are between Munich and Stuttgart. They used to run two round trips a day from Nurnberg to Munich. That fits - 103 113 is (or was) sitting at Stuttgart this morning. Mike Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Claude_Dreyfus Posted August 7, 2014 RMweb Premium Share Posted August 7, 2014 Okay, it was last year (October), but I saw both a 103 and a 181 at Stuttgart - the former stabled in the yard just to the north of the main station and the latter atop a rake of SBB coaches... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Southernman46 Posted August 7, 2014 Share Posted August 7, 2014 Years ago after experiencing a EC dash from Hamburg, I stood on the platform at Koln staring up at the Lokfuhrer leaning out of the pivoted side window of his 103 and thinking to myself "What a job, you lucky, lucky b*stard !" The finest electric loco's to have ever existed............................. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
eastwestdivide Posted August 7, 2014 Share Posted August 7, 2014 according to Wikipedia, regular on the IC 118 Innsbruck-Münster and whatever the opposite direction is. See my blog at http://www.rmweb.co.uk/community/index.php?/blog/1596/entry-14204-1-rotherham-to-rotterdam-to-the-black-forest/ a fluke photo in June 2014 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alcanman Posted August 7, 2014 Share Posted August 7, 2014 Plenty of 103s around back in 1998 when I visited the Rhine Valley. Glad to see they are still around. This is probably not the best livery to show off their sleek lines, but does gives them a more workmanlike appearance. Mal Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
neal cooper Posted August 7, 2014 Share Posted August 7, 2014 I saw 103 235 head south through Boppard in the Rhine Valley on Tuesday, from the Koblenz direction, with 8 OBB coaches on at 10.35 approx. Wednesday produced a 120. Will try and get a video up sometime soon! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
neal cooper Posted August 7, 2014 Share Posted August 7, 2014 Hope this works! If it does, the promised link is here.... http://youtu.be/08AZp4Q2l48 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
admiles Posted August 7, 2014 Author Share Posted August 7, 2014 Thanks for the info everyone. Neal - Been having a look online and the train you saw 103 235 on would be IC119 Munster to Innsbruck. Due at Bingen at 10:50 so bang on time. Good to know the 103s still appear to be booked for that diagram. I'll aim to see both IC119 and it's return working IC118. Nice video too, thanks for posting! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium 5944 Posted August 10, 2014 RMweb Premium Share Posted August 10, 2014 https://www.flickr.com/photos/5944/14344217145/in/set-72157645003739411 103 113 on IC118 a few months ago. This was posted on another forum a few months ago. Diagrams date from December 2013, but I don't think they've changed. Deutsche Bahn A.G. 103 DiagramsFrankfurt/M & MünchenDecember 2013From 15/12/13MondayDay 1FrankfurtDay2119 Münster - Stuttgart 07.27 - 12.46118 Stuttgart - Münster 15.12 - 20.29TuesdayDay 1119 Münster - Stuttgart 07.27 - 12.462316 Stuttgart - Wiesbaden 16.36 - 18.31Lz 78688 Wiesbaden - Frankfurt 18.57 - 20.20Day22099 Frankfurt - Stuttgart 05.20 - 07.00118 Stuttgart - Münster 15.12 - 20.29WednesdayDay 1119 Münster - Stuttgart 07.27 - 12.462316 Stuttgart - Wiesbaden 16.36 - 18.31Lz 78688 Wiesbaden - Frankfurt 18.57 - 20.20Day22099 Frankfurt - Stuttgart 05.20 - 07.00118 Stuttgart - Münster 15.12 - 20.29ThursdayDay 1119 Münster - Stuttgart 07.27 - 12.462316 Stuttgart - Wiesbaden 16.36 - 18.31Lz 78688 Wiesbaden - Frankfurt 18.57 - 20.20Day 22099 Frankfurt - Stuttgart 05.20 - 07.00118 Stuttgart - Münster 15.12 - 20.29FridayDay 1119 Münster - Stuttgart 07.27 - 12.46118 Stuttgart - Münster 15.12 - 20.29Day 22099 Frankfurt - Stuttgart 05.20 - 07.00119 Stuttgart - Ulm 12.57 - 14.01NA 2460 Ulm - Stuttgart 15.41 - 17.14182 Stuttgart - Frankfurt 20.20 - 22.02SaturdayDay 1119 Münster - Stuttgart 07.27 - 12.46118 Stuttgart - Münster 15.12 - 20.29Day 278687 FF Griesheim - Wiesbaden 06.21 - 07.012317 Wiesbaden - Stuttgart 07.32 - 09.28119 Stuttgart - Ulm 12.57 - 14.01SundayDay 1119 Münster - Stuttgart 07.27 - 12.46118 Stuttgart - Münster 15.12 - 20.29Day 2118 Ulm- Stuttgart 13.56 - 14.582316 Stuttgart - Wiesbaden 16.36 - 18.31Lz 78688 Wiesbaden - Frankfurt 18.57 - 20.20==============================================Monday - ThursdayDay 12201 Nurnberg - München 05.47 - 07.422206 München - Nurnberg 15.40 - 17.28FridayDay 12201 Nurnberg - München 05.47 - 07.422094 München - Ulm 17.11 - 18.3478663 Ulm - München 19.16 - 20.31SaturdayDay 11319 München - Innsbruck 07.26 - 09.471318 Innsbruck - München 20.08 - 22.34SundayDay 12206 München - Nurnberg 15.40 - 17.28 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Legend Posted August 11, 2014 RMweb Premium Share Posted August 11, 2014 Why do they still run 103s? Is it just a preservation thing or is there another operational reason? Fine looking locomotives . Always fancied one from their red and cream days. I think it was a Minitrix catalogue I had in the late 60s/ early 70s with one on the Rheingold complete with observation car. Used to pour over it and wonder why the Germans could produce such a stylish machine while we had things like 81s (my knowledge of British Railways was based on what I saw in the Triang Hornby catalogue!) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
admiles Posted August 11, 2014 Author Share Posted August 11, 2014 Thanks for the info Nigel (5944). There's some rather nice shots on your flickr site. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
admiles Posted August 11, 2014 Author Share Posted August 11, 2014 I think DB keep three (I think 113, 235 & 245, though I'm happy to be corrected) 103's active on the mainline as a preservation thing. They are probably the most famous and popular German electric by some margin. I guess keeping them active on the mainline helps them earn their keep and provides DB with good PR. They still seem to be a very capable loco despite their years. I have a vivid memory as a child of maybe 6 or 7 seeing three or four of them on the blocks at Munich Hbf. They reminded me of a row of aeroplanes with the curved noses and cab windscreens. According to my Mum I was utterly spellbound! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Legend Posted August 11, 2014 RMweb Premium Share Posted August 11, 2014 I think , even now, more or less 50 years on from their conception they still look impressive. Compare to the new Class 68 diesel which has a certain style, but the 103 leaves it standing. I do prefer them in TEE livery though, the overall red is not so nice. It would be good if one of the monthlys could do an article on them,or even a special Continental Locomotives Illustrated .I enjoyed the section in this months Traction on DB Electrics Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
EddieB Posted August 11, 2014 Share Posted August 11, 2014 It would be good if one of the monthlys could do an article on them,or even a special Continental Locomotives Illustrated .I enjoyed the section in this months Traction on DB Electrics Eisenbahn Kurier and Eisenbahn Journal produce a number of special editions, including loco profiles. For example here's a recent EJ "extra" dedicated to BR 103, which includes almost an hour of video footage on DVD: https://shop.vgbahn.info/eisenbahn-journal/shop/baureihe+103-_1153.html Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
EddieB Posted August 11, 2014 Share Posted August 11, 2014 With my back-up hub playing up (main one got zapped by lightning yesterday) I'm struggling to find some links and more information, but there's an item in the latest issue of Lok Report that 103 222 (at 280 km/h the fastest of its class) has been acquired by Rail Adventure. It should look good in the grey/green livery of this up-market charter train operator (but no livery better suits than the original red and cream).. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Claude_Dreyfus Posted August 11, 2014 RMweb Premium Share Posted August 11, 2014 Not a great picture, but this view of a class 103 was taken from a passing train at the depot just outside of Stuttgart You also mentioned the class 181. Here is one also at Stuttgart Both pictures taken 16th October 2013. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Dava Posted August 11, 2014 RMweb Premium Share Posted August 11, 2014 Always great to see & ride long distance loco hauled trains on DB & mainland Euro rail, unlike the UK diet of sardine can trains! Dava Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
andyman7 Posted August 21, 2014 Share Posted August 21, 2014 I was rather gobsmacked to see 103 235 at Heidelberg yesterday.... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium ColinK Posted August 21, 2014 RMweb Premium Share Posted August 21, 2014 Earlier in the year I was in Wuppertal and a 103 went through on a IC train in the evening and came back the following morning. I've fairly certain it was on its regular diagram, but diverted via Wuppertal due to engineering works. It looked really good. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
andyman7 Posted August 27, 2014 Share Posted August 27, 2014 I was rather gobsmacked to see 103 235 at Heidelberg yesterday.... Now I'm back I can post a picture: Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Travelcat Posted August 28, 2014 Share Posted August 28, 2014 I saw the BR103 253 at IC119 on Stuttgart station changing from BR120 to BR103 on 22 Aug '14 and then SAW BR103 113 at IC118 on Koblenz station on 24 Aug '14. Near Stuttgart station I saw BR103 took rest to haul the train on 22 Aug '14. They haul trains actively, I hope they works a long time. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium NGT6 1315 Posted August 28, 2014 RMweb Premium Share Posted August 28, 2014 Oh yeah, they built locos to last back then! More recently, 103 222 was sold to Railadventure, making it the first and possibly only privately owned 103 (aside from those owned by preservation societies). Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
EddieB Posted August 28, 2014 Share Posted August 28, 2014 Oh yeah, they built locos to last back then! More recently, 103 222 was sold to Railadventure, making it the first and possibly only privately owned 103 (aside from those owned by preservation societies). See post #18 above, 103 222 is rated for 280 km/h. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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