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DB 103 Electrics still around?


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Of to Koblenz and Trier for a few days the week after next and just wondering if anyone has any information on the remaining class 103 electrics? 

 

I seem to remember a couple where still being used on selected IC diagrams, including one through Koblenz.

Last year I managed a day in Koblenz but the train produced a 120 instead of the diagrammed 103 :nono:

 

Are they still used on any regular IC working through the area?

 

I'm also hoping the 181s are still hanging on to life too. I just love the design of them!

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I think the two diagrammed 103 workings are between Munich and Stuttgart. They used to run two round trips a day from Nurnberg to Munich.   

That fits - 103 113 is (or was) sitting at Stuttgart this morning.

 

Mike

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Years ago after experiencing a EC dash from Hamburg, I stood on the platform at Koln staring up at the Lokfuhrer leaning out of the pivoted side window of his 103 and thinking to myself "What a job, you lucky, lucky b*stard !"

 

The finest electric loco's to have ever existed............................. :sungum:

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Plenty of 103s around back in 1998 when I visited the Rhine Valley. Glad to see they are still around.

 

This is probably not the best livery to show off their sleek lines, but does gives them a more workmanlike appearance.

 

 

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Thanks for the info everyone.

 

Neal - Been having a look online and the train you saw 103 235 on would be IC119 Munster to Innsbruck. Due at Bingen at 10:50

so bang on time. Good to know the 103s still appear to be booked for that diagram. I'll aim to see both IC119 and it's return working IC118.

Nice video too, thanks for posting!

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https://www.flickr.com/photos/5944/14344217145/in/set-72157645003739411

 

103 113 on IC118 a few months ago.

 

This was posted on another forum a few months ago. Diagrams date from December 2013, but I don't think they've changed.

 

 

Deutsche Bahn A.G.

103 Diagrams

Frankfurt/M & München

December 2013

From 15/12/13



Monday

Day 1

Frankfurt



Day2

119 Münster - Stuttgart 07.27 - 12.46

118 Stuttgart - Münster 15.12 - 20.29



Tuesday

Day 1

119 Münster - Stuttgart 07.27 - 12.46

2316 Stuttgart - Wiesbaden 16.36 - 18.31

Lz 78688 Wiesbaden - Frankfurt 18.57 - 20.20



Day2

2099 Frankfurt - Stuttgart 05.20 - 07.00

118 Stuttgart - Münster 15.12 - 20.29



Wednesday

Day 1

119 Münster - Stuttgart 07.27 - 12.46

2316 Stuttgart - Wiesbaden 16.36 - 18.31

Lz 78688 Wiesbaden - Frankfurt 18.57 - 20.20



Day2

2099 Frankfurt - Stuttgart 05.20 - 07.00

118 Stuttgart - Münster 15.12 - 20.29



Thursday

Day 1

119 Münster - Stuttgart 07.27 - 12.46

2316 Stuttgart - Wiesbaden 16.36 - 18.31

Lz 78688 Wiesbaden - Frankfurt 18.57 - 20.20



Day 2

2099 Frankfurt - Stuttgart 05.20 - 07.00

118 Stuttgart - Münster 15.12 - 20.29



Friday

Day 1

119 Münster - Stuttgart 07.27 - 12.46

118 Stuttgart - Münster 15.12 - 20.29



Day 2

2099 Frankfurt - Stuttgart 05.20 - 07.00

119 Stuttgart - Ulm 12.57 - 14.01

NA 2460 Ulm - Stuttgart 15.41 - 17.14

182 Stuttgart - Frankfurt 20.20 - 22.02



Saturday

Day 1

119 Münster - Stuttgart 07.27 - 12.46

118 Stuttgart - Münster 15.12 - 20.29



Day 2

78687 FF Griesheim - Wiesbaden 06.21 - 07.01

2317 Wiesbaden - Stuttgart 07.32 - 09.28

119 Stuttgart - Ulm 12.57 - 14.01



Sunday

Day 1

119 Münster - Stuttgart 07.27 - 12.46

118 Stuttgart - Münster 15.12 - 20.29



Day 2

118 Ulm- Stuttgart 13.56 - 14.58

2316 Stuttgart - Wiesbaden 16.36 - 18.31

Lz 78688 Wiesbaden - Frankfurt 18.57 - 20.20

==============================================



Monday - Thursday

Day 1

2201 Nurnberg - München 05.47 - 07.42

2206 München - Nurnberg 15.40 - 17.28



Friday

Day 1

2201 Nurnberg - München 05.47 - 07.42

2094 München - Ulm 17.11 - 18.34

78663 Ulm - München 19.16 - 20.31



Saturday

Day 1

1319 München - Innsbruck 07.26 - 09.47

1318 Innsbruck - München 20.08 - 22.34



Sunday

Day 1

2206 München - Nurnberg 15.40 - 17.28

 

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Why do they still run 103s? Is it just a preservation thing or is there another operational reason? Fine looking locomotives . Always fancied one from their red and cream days. I think it was a Minitrix catalogue I had in the late 60s/ early 70s with one on the Rheingold complete with observation car. Used to pour over it and wonder why the Germans could produce such a stylish machine while we had things like 81s (my knowledge of British Railways was based on what I saw in the Triang Hornby catalogue!)

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I think DB keep three (I think 113, 235 & 245, though I'm happy to be corrected)  103's active on the mainline as a preservation thing. They are probably the most famous and popular German electric by some margin. I guess keeping them active on the mainline helps them earn their keep and provides DB with good PR. They still seem to be a very capable loco despite their years.

 

I have a vivid memory as a child of maybe 6 or 7 seeing three or four of them on the blocks at Munich Hbf. They reminded me of a row of aeroplanes with the curved noses and cab windscreens. According to my Mum I was utterly spellbound!  

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I think , even now, more or less 50 years on from their conception they still look impressive. Compare to the new Class 68 diesel which has a certain style, but the 103 leaves it standing. I do prefer them in TEE livery though, the overall red is not so nice.

 

It would be good if one of the monthlys could do an article on them,or even a special Continental Locomotives Illustrated .I enjoyed the section in this months Traction on DB Electrics

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It would be good if one of the monthlys could do an article on them,or even a special Continental Locomotives Illustrated .I enjoyed the section in this months Traction on DB Electrics

 

Eisenbahn Kurier and Eisenbahn Journal produce a number of special editions, including loco profiles. For example here's a recent EJ "extra" dedicated to BR 103, which includes almost an hour of video footage on DVD: https://shop.vgbahn.info/eisenbahn-journal/shop/baureihe+103-_1153.html

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With my back-up hub playing up (main one got zapped by lightning yesterday) I'm struggling to find some links and more information, but there's an item in the latest issue of Lok Report that 103 222 (at 280 km/h the fastest of its class) has been acquired by Rail Adventure.  It should look good in the grey/green livery of this up-market charter train operator (but no livery better suits than the original red and cream)..

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Not a great picture, but this view of a class 103 was taken from a passing train at the depot just outside of Stuttgart

 

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You also mentioned the class 181. Here is one also at Stuttgart

 

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Both pictures taken 16th October 2013.

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Always great to see & ride long distance loco hauled trains on DB & mainland Euro rail, unlike the UK diet of sardine can trains!

 

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Earlier in the year I was in Wuppertal and a 103 went through on a IC train in the evening and came back the following morning. I've fairly certain it was on its regular diagram, but diverted via Wuppertal due to engineering works. It looked really good.

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 I saw the BR103 253 at IC119 on Stuttgart station changing from BR120 to BR103 on 22 Aug '14 and then SAW BR103 113 at IC118 on Koblenz station on 24 Aug '14.

Near Stuttgart station I saw BR103 took rest to haul the train  on 22 Aug '14.

They haul trains actively, I hope they works a long time.

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Oh yeah, they built locos to last back then!

 

More recently, 103 222 was sold to Railadventure, making it the first and possibly only privately owned 103 (aside from those owned by preservation societies).

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Oh yeah, they built locos to last back then!

 

More recently, 103 222 was sold to Railadventure, making it the first and possibly only privately owned 103 (aside from those owned by preservation societies).

See post #18 above, 103 222 is rated for 280 km/h.

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