Andrew P Posted August 13, 2014 Author Share Posted August 13, 2014 Can't be doing with all that Chocolate and Cream stuff, as you know I don't like dairy products! Just the one Sir, just one tiny morsel perhaps, just one Wafer? BANG! whoops :no: :no: ? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mrkirtley800 Posted August 13, 2014 Share Posted August 13, 2014 Andy, I don't know why you are saying this is your last great project, don't be so depressing. Canal Road was meant to be my last great project, and just look, after 29 years I am pulling it apart, adding bits, subtracting bits - sound like a maths teacher - and low and behold, my next last great project. Wonder what the one after this will be. Derek 4 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
67A Posted August 13, 2014 Share Posted August 13, 2014 My Guy goes from the 18th to the 1st Sep, hence base on the 4th. Phoned today but he's out, back tomorrow. Bodge Ah! It all becomes clear-ish! 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Blandford1969 Posted August 13, 2014 RMweb Premium Share Posted August 13, 2014 I managed to dig out the negative, which I hope is of interest. It appears that it was taken in the early 50s based on a number of the others taken at the same time. Kind regards Duncan 14 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Blandford1969 Posted August 13, 2014 RMweb Premium Share Posted August 13, 2014 Here are a couple more taken on the same day, which again I hope are of interest I think I may still have one of the roadside, but its not really much different to today. Kind regards Duncan 15 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andrew P Posted August 13, 2014 Author Share Posted August 13, 2014 Andy, I don't know why you are saying this is your last great project, don't be so depressing. Canal Road was meant to be my last great project, and just look, after 29 years I am pulling it apart, adding bits, subtracting bits - sound like a maths teacher - and low and behold, my next last great project. Wonder what the one after this will be. Derek Hi Derek, your right I need to amend the heading to One of my Last Great Projects Bodge 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andrew P Posted August 13, 2014 Author Share Posted August 13, 2014 Here are a couple more taken on the same day, which again I hope are of interest Bitton towards bristol;.jpgBitton towards Bath.jpgBitton main buildings.jpgBitton from the end of the Bath platform.jpg I think I may still have one of the roadside, but its not really much different to today. Kind regards Duncan Thanks for those Duncan, the first and last one are ones of areas I couldn't find decent pics of so they are really great, I needed to see the yard links and those are all great. They also give me better pics of the Signals and Signal Box location. If you do find any more please post them. Every pic is of great use even the Black and White ones. Bodge Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Donw Posted August 13, 2014 RMweb Gold Share Posted August 13, 2014 The term Last Great Project started with Ken Payne so far as I know when Ken built a large building to house his 0 gauge layout and could not imagine starting over again. He has kept the layout although he had rather got to the end of things to do on the layout. MRJ also used the term to describe David Jenkinson's last 0 gauge layout. I know that Ken's wife used to say to him slow down and take your time you will only get bored if you finish it too quick. For my part at 65 if I take 10 years to complete my loft project I would then be 75 and the prospect of starting another would be a bit worrying whether I would finish it. I cannot imagine Andy would take 10 years to complete the layout (my progress is positively glacial compared to Andy). So I expect Andy wil produce some more exhibition layouts which will be interesting. Don 4 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andrew P Posted August 14, 2014 Author Share Posted August 14, 2014 (edited) The term Last Great Project started with Ken Payne so far as I know when Ken built a large building to house his 0 gauge layout and could not imagine starting over again. He has kept the layout although he had rather got to the end of things to do on the layout. MRJ also used the term to describe David Jenkinson's last 0 gauge layout. I know that Ken's wife used to say to him slow down and take your time you will only get bored if you finish it too quick. For my part at 65 if I take 10 years to complete my loft project I would then be 75 and the prospect of starting another would be a bit worrying whether I would finish it. I cannot imagine Andy would take 10 years to complete the layout (my progress is positively glacial compared to Andy). So I expect Andy wil produce some more exhibition layouts which will be interesting. Don Morning Don, Cheers for that, its fairly unlikely I will do many more Exhibition Layouts but I have decided to take my time with Bitton. there are numerous things I want to do different this time, things like baseboard construction, track, Point Motors, Buildings, and research. Also the planning of the position of the Layout inside the Shed will be a major deciding factor on other things that go on within the shed, i.e. room to move about to build anything else. Remember its only 8 ft wide outside so about 7.5 inside, and each board will be a minimum of 2ft maybe more so the operating well will only be about 3ft or so, and maybe down to 2ft if I go for 2ft 6 inch boards for more scenics. Loads of planning still to do on that side so that's what I'm working on each day. I will be posting up some plans for discussion shortly. Bodge. Edited August 14, 2014 by Andrew P 8 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
georgeT Posted August 14, 2014 Share Posted August 14, 2014 (edited) Morning Bodge, l don't like the sound of LGP it sounds so final, l think it should be Another Great Project, as you know you will be doing lots more when you are fully fit AGP ? George Edited August 14, 2014 by georgeT 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Donw Posted August 14, 2014 RMweb Gold Share Posted August 14, 2014 Andy I don't know whether you have made your choice on shed. Some come with double doors at the end others with a single one. From the point of view of a lifting section the single door would be easier although not as useful for takng large baseboards in and out. Regarding baseboard widths I would suggest a 2ft aisle would be rather tight. If you have a couple of mates round it would be everyone out if someone needed the loo. You shouldn't need a wide board on the fy side an 18 inch board should allow 8 tracks 24inch 12 tracks. That would allow more room on the other side. However perhaps you need to create a passing place like we have on the little roads in Exmoor Remember the planning is half the fun at the moment it is full of opportunities once you start building the number of possibilities shrinks :locomotive: My space is actually tighter than yours considering the larger size. The main space is 23ftx 8ft11. That equates to 13ftx5ft1 in 00, which means a fairly tight oval. Don 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Rowsley17D Posted August 14, 2014 RMweb Gold Share Posted August 14, 2014 (edited) Those photos from the 50s are the business. Midland in GWR country, but it could well be the S&C. Lovely Midland lower quad signals too. Andy, have you got to grips with Templot? A great way to design a layout and by printing off the plan you know that it will fit your space to the mm before you cut any timber. Ask Gordon of ET. Edited August 14, 2014 by Rowsley17D 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andrew P Posted August 14, 2014 Author Share Posted August 14, 2014 Morning Bodge, l don't like the sound of LGP it sounds so final, l think it should be Another Great Project, as you know you will be doing lots more when you are fully fit AGP ? George OK OK OK, I get it, it will be changed, thanks for your input mate, as always tel me how it is, hahhah Bodge. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andrew P Posted August 14, 2014 Author Share Posted August 14, 2014 Andy I don't know whether you have made your choice on shed. Some come with double doors at the end others with a single one. From the point of view of a lifting section the single door would be easier although not as useful for takng large baseboards in and out. Regarding baseboard widths I would suggest a 2ft aisle would be rather tight. If you have a couple of mates round it would be everyone out if someone needed the loo. You shouldn't need a wide board on the fy side an 18 inch board should allow 8 tracks 24inch 12 tracks. That would allow more room on the other side. However perhaps you need to create a passing place like we have on the little roads in Exmoor Remember the planning is half the fun at the moment it is full of opportunities once you start building the number of possibilities shrinks :locomotive: My space is actually tighter than yours considering the larger size. The main space is 23ftx 8ft11. That equates to 13ftx5ft1 in 00, which means a fairly tight oval. Don Hi Don, the Shed is 16 x 8 and will have a single reenforced wood door or a Steel door, the glazing is real glass, not styrene. Still trying to get hold of the man though. I don't want to change to another supplier as I have asked 7 builders for Quotes now and he was the only one to give me a quote there and then, still waiting for the other SIX to quote from last Month. Bodge. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andrew P Posted August 14, 2014 Author Share Posted August 14, 2014 Those photos from the 50s are the business. Midland in GWR country, but it could well be the S&C. Lovely Midland lower quad signals too. Andy, have you got to grips with Templot? A great way to design a layout and by printing off the plan you know that it will fit your space to the mm before you cut any timber. Ask Gordon of ET. Evening Jonathan, I have not tried Templot, I will have a look at it later, as for the plan well to be able to justify Midland, Southern and WR Locos and stock WITHOUT it being wrong is a bonus. Just got to make it fit. Bodge. 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
john w Posted August 14, 2014 Share Posted August 14, 2014 good luck with your project andy. john, Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
tender Posted August 14, 2014 Share Posted August 14, 2014 Andy, have you got to grips with Templot? A great way to design a layout and by printing off the plan you know that it will fit your space to the mm before you cut any timber. Ask Gordon of ET. Hi Andy, Not sure Templot will be any good to you as I don't think there are any 'Peco' templates. Templot assumes you are going to make your own turnouts as it allows you to stretch and bend them to suit. Think I read somewhere you weren't into track building but if you fancy a go Templot is a good option and it's FREE. I've used 'AnyRail' before which has a full set of Peco templates and can be downloaded for free but it has a limited number of sections until you purchase a license. Can't remember how much it is but from memory is not expensive. Ray. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crisis Rail Posted August 14, 2014 Share Posted August 14, 2014 Hope you are OK Andy - always like your humour on here. A good thread - keep dropping in the rig and axe shots - maybe a separate thread needed? Ian 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
tender Posted August 14, 2014 Share Posted August 14, 2014 Forgot to mention the SHED. Will be interesting to follow your progress on this as I've just demolished my somewhat 'rotten' 12' x 12' shed made from a ex WWII army barrack. Hoping to replace it with something about 5m x 3m (16 x 10) but still a lot of ground clearing to do before I know exactly how much room I've got. Ray. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andrew P Posted August 14, 2014 Author Share Posted August 14, 2014 good luck with your project andy. john, Thanks John, Luck? hahhah I'll need a LOT of that this time. Bodge. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andrew P Posted August 14, 2014 Author Share Posted August 14, 2014 (edited) Hope you are OK Andy - always like your humour on here. A good thread - keep dropping in the rig and axe shots - maybe a separate thread needed? Ian Evening Ian, Yes its good to look back at the old Gear, great Days. Pleased you dropped in. Bodge. Edited August 14, 2014 by Andrew P 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andrew P Posted August 14, 2014 Author Share Posted August 14, 2014 Hi Ray, I may be going down the Marcway route for the points but I won't know until I get inside and have a play around. Re the Shed, I wish I could do my own Groundworks, and I wish I could go for a bigger one. Regards to Polly as well. Bodge. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Clive Mortimore Posted August 14, 2014 RMweb Premium Share Posted August 14, 2014 Forgot to mention the SHED. Will be interesting to follow your progress on this as I've just demolished my somewhat 'rotten' 12' x 12' shed made from a ex WWII army barrack. Hoping to replace it with something about 5m x 3m (16 x 10) but still a lot of ground clearing to do before I know exactly how much room I've got. Ray. Dear Mr Tender I am a little bit upset with you demolishing an ex-army barrack. I am sure it would have been up to the standard for my men to live in. Or if not I could have blown it up for you. It is bad enough that Bodgit person refused my offer to blow his shed up. You now seem to have joined him. And I do not believe it when I am told you cannot blow up sheds because of Health and Safety. Yours very disgruntled Lt Colonel La de Da hyphen Poshname Rough Engineering Made Easy 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Physicsman Posted August 14, 2014 RMweb Premium Share Posted August 14, 2014 Thanks John, Luck? hahhah I'll need a LOT of that this time. Bodge. Andy, I almost gave you a "disagree" for that comment! YOU don't need any luck to produce something stunning. With the space you'll have, the thought you put into it (be single-minded and don't let us sway you too much!) and your talent (but DO slow down a bit), you'll produce a layout better than any of your previous (excellent) ones! And page 6 already! You'll be up with Peterborough North soon. But don't aim for 500+ pages as in KL - it's become a monster. I also agree with Derek. LAST project? At your age - not a chance!! Jeff Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Clive Mortimore Posted August 14, 2014 RMweb Premium Share Posted August 14, 2014 (edited) Hi Ray I am so sorry I left the office for two minutes and it looks like the Colonel has sent a post. I must remember to turn off the computer. Yours Cfn Clive PS anyone else noticed it is day four and no trains running. Edited August 14, 2014 by Clive Mortimore Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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