69843 Posted September 1, 2014 Share Posted September 1, 2014 That's it, I'm officially going broke in the next few years!! One question Dave.....do we get a pint of Cider with the model of 6000? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium TheQ Posted September 2, 2014 RMweb Premium Share Posted September 2, 2014 But my layouts only a blue route... I Know It's my railway I'll run what I want.... King pre war livery Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
phil gollin Posted September 2, 2014 Share Posted September 2, 2014 . I always thought that the Kings were amongst the best proportioned large locomotives, pipped only by the Duchess and rebuilt Merchant Navy classes. The Hattons list seems not to mention "DCC" - so are the locos only available as "DCC ready" ? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
69843 Posted September 2, 2014 Share Posted September 2, 2014 Actually, this means (I will assume) Dave will have to scan either 6000 at the NRM, or 6023 in 'full height' form. As 6024 is now the 'Slim Jim' King, that would (I believe) make it unviable to scan? Plus the fact 6024 is disassembled at the moment for overhaul. Is that correct Dave? Edit: I must admit, I'm also surprised that 6000 as preserved isn't in the initial release. Is this on the cards at some point Dave? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Linners Posted September 2, 2014 Share Posted September 2, 2014 Hi everyone, This is a heck of a model for me as I have been asked to almost 'indulge' myself with regards to detail and features. This, it is hoped, steps away from clever design to even more 'correct design', and I am glad I've been asked to bring the King to you all. More updates from Hatton's and myself as they happen I'm sure. Cheers Dave Dave, You are the proverbial "child" in the sweet shop! But hey, don't mind me I'm just jealous!! Best wishes, Linners Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
edcayton Posted September 2, 2014 Share Posted September 2, 2014 What about the fully streamlined version? Ed Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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G-BOAF Posted September 2, 2014 Share Posted September 2, 2014 WOW! What an announcement. Looking forward to this model; erring towards KEI, but would dearly love KE2, as preserved in a future GWR livery... Good luck with this project. DJM certainly shaping up to be a big player in the UK RTR industry, and coming in with a top-link loco really changes the field of play. No longer dealing with 'niche' prototypes. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Froxfield2012 Posted September 2, 2014 Share Posted September 2, 2014 So, I guess from the lining that this shot of 6001 from 1951 (can't be more precise) is of green livery? But note that the cab window appears normal size. Was the small window just on one side? Or did the windows get changed? What a nightmare it might be to satisfy all the r---t counters out there?? And the second shot shows "King John" at Reading. This is dated 1 December 1951 and my father's hand written notes in his 1950s photo album definitely record "BR Blue". But look at the lining? Any ideas? Neither tender has any lettering or logo. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coach bogie Posted September 2, 2014 Share Posted September 2, 2014 So, I guess from the lining that this shot of 6001 from 1951 (can't be more precise) is of green livery? But note that the cab window appears normal size. Was the small window just on one side? Or did the windows get changed? What a nightmare it might be to satisfy all the r---t counters out there?? Drivers side only. MW Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Metr0Land Posted September 2, 2014 RMweb Gold Share Posted September 2, 2014 BR allocations here: http://brdatabase.info/locoqry.php?action=class&id=146004&type=S&page=alloc Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Banger Blue Posted September 2, 2014 RMweb Premium Share Posted September 2, 2014 Will 6000 have the Bell fitted? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miss Prism Posted September 2, 2014 Share Posted September 2, 2014 Note the absence of insignia in the two Froxfield pics. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
34theletterbetweenB&D Posted September 2, 2014 Share Posted September 2, 2014 ...Hattons again seizing the moment ....A box shifter.....maybe....but nor as we know it. This is the most interesting aspect for me. Their business has clearly been affected by lack of supply, thus the return to s/h dealing; and here's something more they are doing about it. The good timing of the Beyer-Garratt, arriving when supply from elsewhere was poor, is presumably providing the investment cash for this next venture. I can see there's folks here keen for finer scale provision, but think carefully about Hattons' customer base. No hint in the announcement that it is anything but a regular RTR release, and that means R2 capability out of the box unless they specifically announce otherwise. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
steve fay Posted September 2, 2014 Share Posted September 2, 2014 For laser scanning 6000 would be the best option as 6023 is currently in cut down main line form, although they do have the proper cab and fittings there which could be scanned as well. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miss Prism Posted September 2, 2014 Share Posted September 2, 2014 A note on Hattons' insignia terminology: - for their HK01 (6000), Hattons mean 'garter crest' and not 'roundel'. (6000 was I believe the only King to get the garter crest, and was probably the last garter crest loco to appear from the works.) - for the other GWR versions, where Hattons say 'crest' or 'shield' it means 'coat of arms'. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
steve fay Posted September 2, 2014 Share Posted September 2, 2014 I knew I had a colour picture deep in the archives. I like this livery and the later Blue on the kings. Just need some one to do the collett 1938 stock now and have it painted in the experimental plum and split milk livery as used on the Cornish Riviera and Bristolian. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
steve fay Posted September 2, 2014 Share Posted September 2, 2014 Will 6000 have the Bell fitted? If she has the garter crest then this is before her visit to the states so probably no, although they could fit the Westinghouse air pump on the smoke box door Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Karhedron Posted September 2, 2014 Share Posted September 2, 2014 Fantastic news Dave. Any chance of persuading Hattons that they want you to develop and N gauge version in parallel? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miss Prism Posted September 2, 2014 Share Posted September 2, 2014 If she has the garter crest then this is before her visit to the states so probably no, although they could fit the Westinghouse air pump on the smoke box door 6000's tender still had the garter crest when the bell was fitted. I guess this is what Hattons want to portray. Not sure when the Westinghouse pump was removed. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coach bogie Posted September 2, 2014 Share Posted September 2, 2014 (6000 was I believe the only King to get the garter crest, and was probably the last garter crest loco to appear from the works.) Published shots show 6000, 1, 3, 4, 5, 7, 9 all in service with Garter crest on the tender. I suspect all the 6000-9 batch ran this way. The first ex works shot with crest I have is 6010. Mike Wiltshire Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miss Prism Posted September 2, 2014 Share Posted September 2, 2014 Thanks, Mike. It seems the coat of arms, first seen c July 1925 I believe, took a bit longer to establish itself than I thought. Perhaps Swindon was using up its garter crest supplies! What you say is logical though - the first batch of ten 4000g tenders with garter crests being ready for their locos. What those tenders looked like in those days is another matter though... (I must re-read some previous Star threads!) The first six Kings had the initial bogie until they were quickly revised following the Midgham accident in August 1927. I think the revised bogie (with the coll springs) had become standard by the time the second batch (April 1928) started to appear. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
davefrk Posted September 2, 2014 Share Posted September 2, 2014 Nice, but how to make a Princess out of it. They were the same at the front end weren't they? Ducks down for cover. Dave Franks Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
NunneyCastle5029 Posted September 2, 2014 Share Posted September 2, 2014 Dave, are we going to see some lovely etched brass name and cabside number plates? either fitted or in the box? Cheers Kevin Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dreadnought05 Posted September 2, 2014 Share Posted September 2, 2014 Dave, you're making it very easy to give you my money! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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