Miss Prism Posted November 29, 2016 Share Posted November 29, 2016 So the 1366 chimney wasn't like the 64xx and the other 'flat-topped' tanks? Here's a cruel enlargement of the 64xx chimney (Lionheart, from a Chris Klein's Cwm Bach pic): Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miss Prism Posted November 29, 2016 Share Posted November 29, 2016 Should the 'side flaps' of the whistle shield be angled, and not along the longitudinal axis? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coppercap Posted November 29, 2016 Share Posted November 29, 2016 Should the 'side flaps' of the whistle shield be angled, and not along the longitudinal axis? They should be angled, and the model appears to be correct. (There's lots of images of the real thing out there....) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold The Stationmaster Posted November 29, 2016 RMweb Gold Share Posted November 29, 2016 From going through numerous photos there appears to have been one set of 1366 tanks where the weld joins were visible, but they certainly don't look like 'strapping'. However most tanks on the engines show no readily visible signs of the welds. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Dunsignalling Posted November 29, 2016 RMweb Gold Share Posted November 29, 2016 (edited) So the 1366 chimney wasn't like the 64xx and the other 'flat-topped' tanks? Here's a cruel enlargement of the 64xx chimney (Lionheart, from a Chris Klein's Cwm Bach pic): 64xx-chimney-aperture.jpg It doesn't look like it in the photos I've been able to examine but none of them have been blown up to that degree. Just as a matter of interest, how have Bachmann dealt with it on their 64xx? John Edited November 29, 2016 by Dunsignalling Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miss Prism Posted November 30, 2016 Share Posted November 30, 2016 Just as a matter of interest, how have Bachmann dealt with it on their 64xx? http://www.rmweb.co.uk/community/index.php?/topic/69235-Bachmann-64xx-panniers/?p=1316999 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SDJR7F88 Posted December 7, 2016 Share Posted December 7, 2016 (edited) A short video taking a look at the Heljan Stand, during the Warley National Model Railway Exhibition. On show, as well a huge display of current production models, was a number of up and coming and prototypes, including the all 009 L&B Manning Wardle 2-6-2T's, 0 gauge GWR 61xx Large Prairie's, 00 gauge British Rail Class 07's, plus much, much more. Filmed Saturday 26th November 2016, we take a closer look at these new models, plus more. Hope you enjoy! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nwMEL_dmQy8 Edited December 7, 2016 by SDJR7F88 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gooderz Posted December 14, 2016 Share Posted December 14, 2016 models are being distributed in the next few days 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold The Stationmaster Posted December 14, 2016 RMweb Gold Share Posted December 14, 2016 models are being distributed in the next few days Just a shame they all appear to be exactly the same in the case of the 1361s - so rather unlike the real members of the class with their numerous differences. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
GWR8700 Posted December 14, 2016 Share Posted December 14, 2016 Just a shame they all appear to be exactly the same in the case of the 1361s - so rather unlike the real members of the class with their numerous differences. Which ones have errors that I should look out for on? I've ordered no. 1366 shirtbutton, anything I should look out for on that one? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold The Stationmaster Posted December 14, 2016 RMweb Gold Share Posted December 14, 2016 Which ones have errors that I should look out for on? I've ordered no. 1366 shirtbutton, anything I should look out for on that one? The main thing which varied on the 1366s (and it changed over the years) was the way the injector overflow pipes were run. You really need a dated photo in order to check for a particular loco as some definitely changed over the years.. Oddly the route of the injector overflow pipe was not something which varied wildly on the 1361s (unlike various other parts of them) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium wagonbasher Posted December 16, 2016 RMweb Premium Share Posted December 16, 2016 that looks great Andy. the RTR modellers of this world are very lucky to have such quality and effort thrown into new releases. I do hope Heljan don't read this thread, the level of criticism might make anyone throw the towel in. Andy 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Dunsignalling Posted December 16, 2016 RMweb Gold Share Posted December 16, 2016 (edited) It's instantly recognisable as a 1366, which is the main thing. The detail differences were relatively minor and, as Mike points out, varied over time on the same loco. Even for someone who want's a model of a particular loco at an exact time, it's a damn good starting point. Few of us would expect even a top class kit to include all the parts necessary to model every member of a class at any point in their careers so isn't it a little unfair to expect it in a r-t-r model? OK, Hornby are getting pretty close to doing so for Adams Radials, but only for the BR period. Despite the prototypes being some of the best documented and most photographed locos around in the 1950s, the odd minor error has slipped through. I certainly can't envisage them ever attempting to cover all the possible SR and LSWR permutations. John Edited December 16, 2016 by Dunsignalling 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Ian Hargrave Posted December 16, 2016 RMweb Gold Share Posted December 16, 2016 that looks great Andy. the RTR modellers of this world are very lucky to have such quality and effort thrown into new releases. I do hope Heljan don't read this thread, the level of criticism might make anyone throw the towel in. Andy Teflon man rules fortunately. Not all prospective purchasers of model railways are members of this forum in any case.Varying degrees of "influence" apply,I would think. That said the O2 development was in many ways thanks to several RMWeb members.I think they did a fine job. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Froxfield2012 Posted December 19, 2016 Share Posted December 19, 2016 (edited) Yesterday we went to Chinnor and found this on loan. I can't resist posting these pictures, although they don't really answer the queries on here. I suppose the suggestion is that, if the shape of the chimney offends, attach a suitable headboard? My only real query was whether or not the angle of the cylinders was quite right on the model, but this is something that can't be answered from photographs, which inevitably tend to distort such things unless taken from absolutely side on. The seams on the tanks are definitely there, although probably not quite as prominent as on the model? As previously noted, I remember these tanks from my very early years visiting Weymouth. As an inveterate "box-opener", I seem mostly to be attracted to those models that represent types that I saw/cabbed/rode on. I'm afraid that I think the Heljan model captures the general look of the locomotive sufficiently for me to want to buy one! Edited December 19, 2016 by Froxfield2012 12 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miss Prism Posted December 19, 2016 Share Posted December 19, 2016 My only real query was whether or not the angle of the cylinders was quite right on the model, but this is something that can't be answered from photographs, which inevitably tend to distort such things unless taken from absolutely side on. The cylinder axis should align with the centre axle. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Froxfield2012 Posted December 19, 2016 Share Posted December 19, 2016 The cylinder axis should align with the centre axle. Indeed it should. And in the side view of the model in Post #115 things look OK. But in Andy Y's picture in Post #121, the slidebars in particular look very close to the horizontal. In the picture I posted in #124 the slant of cylinder and slidebar is very apparent. This may all be down to photo angle! I was not judging but there was that question in my mind. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miss Prism Posted December 19, 2016 Share Posted December 19, 2016 I assumed the previous model pics were hastily-assembled preprods. It's anyone's guess as to what the final thing might look like. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul.Uni Posted December 19, 2016 Share Posted December 19, 2016 (edited) All 5 panniers have arrived at Rails of Sheffield according to their twitter & facebook pages Edited December 19, 2016 by Paul.Uni Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold gwrrob Posted December 19, 2016 RMweb Gold Share Posted December 19, 2016 All 5 panniers have arrived at Rails of Sheffield according to their twitter & facebook pages 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
County of Yorkshire Posted December 19, 2016 Share Posted December 19, 2016 Hmmm. Does anyone else think that these are badly finished? Paint flaking off the cylinders and running plate, a cabside not flush against the running plate and wonky bunker side handrails on this one. A giant thumbprint on the smokebox door, a chip in the r/h side of the chimney and a clearly not-flush bunker side against the running plate on this one. Black marks on the buffer shanks, paint flaking off the cylinders and running plate, r/h side cab and bunker clearly not flush on this one. Strangely the BR ones look better, but even then the l/h tank handrail is bent where in connects onto the cabside on this one. I really want 1370 but the Rails photo samples inspire little confidence. It's also a lot of sheets for what is a small tank engine and there's no excuse for such poor QC at that price. Not QC as such but the GWR liveries seem to have strange, garish almost 'comic book' style print for the repective lettering - nothing like the Hornby or Bachmann equivalent. One wonders if these have been rushed to market in time for Christmas... CoY Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold gwrrob Posted December 19, 2016 RMweb Gold Share Posted December 19, 2016 I really want 1370 but the Rails photo samples inspire little confidence. It's also a lot of sheets for what is a small tank engine and there's no excuse for such poor QC at that price. Not QC as such but the GWR liveries seem to have strange, garish almost 'comic book' style print for the repective lettering - nothing like the Hornby or Bachmann equivalent. One wonders if these have been rushed to market in time for Christmas... CoY It looks that way and the GWR lettering looks too big to my eyes and is it me or is the middle driver sitting higher than the outer sets. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
darren01 Posted December 19, 2016 Share Posted December 19, 2016 (edited) My they look bad, look at the balance wieght on the Shirt button and the GWR one, all over the place. Sorry was going to get one of these for Weymounth shed, but seeing the paint job on them has put me right off, if this is what there offering for £122.50, They need to sort these out. Look at the cab where it joins the bunker, gee, what going on here, did a child assemble it?. I can see these hitting the buffers if none of these faults are sorted out. Darren Edited December 19, 2016 by darren01 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium wagonbasher Posted December 19, 2016 RMweb Premium Share Posted December 19, 2016 Just looked at images of the prototype... I can't see what your point is about the balance weight, please explain. Maybe I'm misreading the first sentence? If Weymouth needs one, looks like it will have to be a kit and burnt fingers. Andy Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
45568 Posted December 20, 2016 Share Posted December 20, 2016 If anyone buys one of these, could they let us know if the bell is a separate item supplied as a spare part for the owner to fit? Cheers, Peter C. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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