RMweb Gold Roy Langridge Posted December 20, 2016 RMweb Gold Share Posted December 20, 2016 My they look bad, look at the balance wieght on the Shirt button and the GWR one, all over the place. Darren Doesn't look anything wrong with them to me. The cab joining the footplate, however... Roy Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Froxfield2012 Posted December 20, 2016 Share Posted December 20, 2016 It looks to me as though the two BR locos 1367 and 1368 carry the shed code 85E and 85F respectively: ?Gloucester and Bromsgrove? I don't think it was ever the Weymouth shed code (?82F?). Presumably, no Weymouth shed code, no bell? But I do notice that Rails only claimed that the locos were "on their way" and "due in stock on 20th December. So perhaps these aren't actual pictures of their stock on the website? Questions, questions. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Froxfield2012 Posted December 20, 2016 Share Posted December 20, 2016 Mind you, I also notice that my pictures of the preserved 1369 carries the shed code 72F Wadebridge, from which shed it was finally withdrawn. It doesn't stop 1369 still carrying a nice shiny brass bell!! Weymouth could also be 71G? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold The Stationmaster Posted December 20, 2016 RMweb Gold Share Posted December 20, 2016 It looks to me as though the two BR locos 1367 and 1368 carry the shed code 85E and 85F respectively: ?Gloucester and Bromsgrove? I don't think it was ever the Weymouth shed code (?82F?). Presumably, no Weymouth shed code, no bell? But I do notice that Rails only claimed that the locos were "on their way" and "due in stock on 20th December. So perhaps these aren't actual pictures of their stock on the website? Questions, questions. Weymouth was 'WEY' under the GWR coding system and became 82F after nationalisation finishing up as 71G after transfer to the SR. 1366s were also allocated in the BR period, at various times, to Swindon and Taunton (neither of which were in tehh85 group of sheds). Easy enough to get hold of a replacement shed plate of course but somewhat sloppy work on Heljan's part getting seemingly wrong codes in the first place. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coppercap Posted December 20, 2016 Share Posted December 20, 2016 (edited) Yesterday we went to Chinnor and found this on loan. I note that they've got the 'cycling lion' on the left tank side facing backwards! Oops! These always faced forwards. When the later 'ferret & dartboard' heraldic crest came out, BR incorrectly used left-facing and right-facing ones, with them always facing the front, until advised that only left-facing ones were permitted. Plenty of photographic evidence of incorrect 'ferret & dartboards', but this is a first (for me) of an incorrectly-applied 'cycling lion'! Edited December 20, 2016 by Coppercap Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold 81C Posted December 20, 2016 RMweb Gold Share Posted December 20, 2016 They clearly look as if they are pre-production models with that amount of paint damage and poor finish, they appear to be better finished in a photo of several on a workbench in the Hornby mag. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ANT Posted December 20, 2016 Share Posted December 20, 2016 Hello The latest email that I have had from Rails on the two that I have ordered yesterday, 1368 and 1369, is that they have been despatched on Royal Mail 48hr, so I hope to have these on Thursday. Though I will only give them a quick check when they arrive, as I will have to wait until Christmas Day before I can run them. Thanks SEEYAANT Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
GWR8700 Posted December 20, 2016 Share Posted December 20, 2016 (edited) The photos on Kernow's website have them looking much better, those photos on rails are hopefully just unfortunate. Out of the major retailers it's only Hatton's who don't seem to have received theirs just yet. Looking forward to it. Edited December 20, 2016 by GWR8700 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
tender Posted December 20, 2016 Share Posted December 20, 2016 Out of the major retailers it's only Hatton's who don't seem to have received theirs just yet. Typical, guess where i ordered mine from, still, SHMBO informs me that her H&P Peckett is in the post so we should have something to play with on Xmas day. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold adb968008 Posted December 20, 2016 RMweb Gold Share Posted December 20, 2016 Wonder if they come with a bell for the Weymouth street running ? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Staffordshire Posted December 21, 2016 Share Posted December 21, 2016 I am lucky to have a 4mm 'pre-production' CSP 1367 built for me by the late Roger Slade. I will take photos and post this evening. Due to the sad passing of Roger, criticism if any should be constructive. Many thanks Roger also built the GWR saddle tanks 1143 and 1144 from his kits for me - beautiful small models. Thanks, Ian Bradford Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
45568 Posted December 21, 2016 Share Posted December 21, 2016 If anyone buys one of these, could they let us know if the bell is a separate item supplied as a spare part for the owner to fit? Cheers, Peter C. Invisible Ink?? adb960008? Cheers, Peter C, Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Horsetan Posted December 21, 2016 Share Posted December 21, 2016 I am lucky to have a 4mm 'pre-production' CSP 1367 built for me by the late Roger Slade. I will take photos and post this evening.... Hopefully the kit will become available. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
rembrow Posted December 21, 2016 Share Posted December 21, 2016 The photos on Kernow's website have them looking much better, those photos on rails are hopefully just unfortunate. Out of the major retailers it's only Hatton's who don't seem to have received theirs just yet. Looking forward to it. Hattons now showing them as in stock and I've had an e-mail that my pre order has been payment processed, awaiting picking and packing. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Froxfield2012 Posted December 21, 2016 Share Posted December 21, 2016 Rails and Kernow suggest a 6pin DCC socket. Hattons seem to think it's an 8 pin socket. It would be good to know which is right before ordering? Some of the Hattons pictures seem to show similar poor fit of the cab assembly as those used by Rails. I am looking forward to comment here from someone who has seen the actual models! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Froxfield2012 Posted December 21, 2016 Share Posted December 21, 2016 Yesterday we went to Chinnor and found this on loan. I note that they've got the 'cycling lion' on the left tank side facing backwards! Oops! These always faced forwards. When the later 'ferret & dartboard' heraldic crest came out, BR incorrectly used left-facing and right-facing ones, with them always facing the front, until advised that only left-facing ones were permitted. Plenty of photographic evidence of incorrect 'ferret & dartboards', but this is a first (for me) of an incorrectly-applied 'cycling lion'! And it appears to be of recent origin. YouTube video at South Devon Railway in September 2016 shows this lion facing forward. An October 2016 video shows a blank side to the tank: presumably a repaint in course! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miss Prism Posted December 21, 2016 Share Posted December 21, 2016 I can't find the old thread now, but there was a discussion a while ago regarding the colour of the front of the tanks, the debate focusing on the picture of 1366 new out of the works in February 1934. My own opinion is that, even if 1366 did appear with green-fronted tanks, it would have been spotted as a mistake, and would have been rectified, along with the painting of the rest of the class, either immediately or at the first repaint. The SDR is notorious for the inauthenticity of its liveries. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ANT Posted December 21, 2016 Share Posted December 21, 2016 Hello All My two 1368 and 1369 arrived today. Just checked them over before they have to get wrapped up from Christmas, I think they look good. I have attached some photos, not great, along with one showing the accessory pack, which has a BELL! Thanks SEEYAANT 9 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
cctransuk Posted December 21, 2016 Share Posted December 21, 2016 (edited) I have attached some photos, not great, along with one showing the accessory pack, which has a BELL! .... as used by the prototype on the Weymouth harbour tramway. Heljan don't do buffers too well, do they? Regards, John Isherwood. Edited December 21, 2016 by cctransuk Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bertiedog Posted December 21, 2016 Share Posted December 21, 2016 Hattons reporting stock this afternoon, so order is in for one after Christmas, looks very nice so far....... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold 81C Posted December 21, 2016 RMweb Gold Share Posted December 21, 2016 .... as used by the prototype on the Weymouth harbour tramway. Heljan don't do buffers too well, do they? Regards, John Isherwood. In my view they look better than the one's on Hatton's 14xx so let's agree to disagree . Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bertiedog Posted December 21, 2016 Share Posted December 21, 2016 In the shots generally is the GWR green a little "white" or pale, or is it the matt finish that seems not to give a richer green? Stephen Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold The Stationmaster Posted December 21, 2016 RMweb Gold Share Posted December 21, 2016 .... as used by the prototype on the Weymouth harbour tramway. Heljan don't do buffers too well, do they? Regards, John Isherwood. It might be the angle of view (but it might not) and they are pretty tiny in reality of course. The injector looks a bit 'representative' and some of the proportions of the pipe and operating valve rod seem to be the wrong way round. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
tender Posted December 21, 2016 Share Posted December 21, 2016 Typical, guess where i ordered mine from, still, SHMBO informs me that her H&P Peckett is in the post so we should have something to play with on Xmas day. 1368 in the post, Hopefully santas little helpers (Royal Mail 2 day untracked ) will get them here for the big day. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gooderz Posted December 21, 2016 Share Posted December 21, 2016 Rather disappointed that they have supplied them with black coupling rods. nevertheless, i'm still looking forward to getting 1369. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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