Miss Prism Posted December 22, 2016 Share Posted December 22, 2016 For £124, I would have expected a parallel chimney and cylinders pointing in the right direction. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold MikeParkin65 Posted December 22, 2016 RMweb Gold Share Posted December 22, 2016 Rather disappointed that they have supplied them with black coupling rods. nevertheless, i'm still looking forward to getting 1369. It is indeed a novelty to be having to brighten up the rods rather than having to tone them down! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Vecchio Posted December 22, 2016 RMweb Premium Share Posted December 22, 2016 Looking at all critics and looking back to a few older UK models I have - without some innovation from companies like Heljan the 00 model would probably be still in the pancake motor stage... 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold PaulRhB Posted December 22, 2016 RMweb Gold Share Posted December 22, 2016 I've just spent a few hours tracing the fault on a brand new £320 German model, the motor retainer didn't retain the motor! Carpet tape applied and now a great running model I've identified and photographed the problem and sent it to the manufacturer as it seems there's an assembly issue unless they are all like this and there's nothing to actually clip it into! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Vecchio Posted December 22, 2016 RMweb Premium Share Posted December 22, 2016 I've just spent a few hours tracing the fault on a brand new £320 German model, the motor retainer didn't retain the motor! Carpet tape applied and now a great running model I've identified and photographed the problem and sent it to the manufacturer as it seems there's an assembly issue unless they are all like this and there's nothing to actually clip it into! Paul, I would be careful with any adhesive tape - especially when in close proximity to the motor = temperature higher than ambient. In a few years time this may not work any more - either falling into pieces or changing into some sticky goo (softener migration). But probably this is your temporary solution until the manufacturer comes back with some replacement or upgrading. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold PaulRhB Posted December 22, 2016 RMweb Gold Share Posted December 22, 2016 Paul, I would be careful with any adhesive tape - especially when in close proximity to the motor = temperature higher than ambient. In a few years time this may not work any more - either falling into pieces or changing into some sticky goo (softener migration). But probably this is your temporary solution until the manufacturer comes back with some replacement or upgrading.You're correct I'm going to secure it with silicon but I've run out. This is temporary but proved it was a simple fault. There's a lot of banging on about the loss of proper modelling but people seem unprepared to accept the slightest issue or look for a solution. I accept that these are mass produced and assembly faults occur plus some design faults don't appear until the loco has been shaken around in transit. My Heljan Metropolitan performed badly so was returned. Cheltenham models covered all the costs but phoned to say they couldn't find an issue either with the lights or DCC. After chatting I'd tried two different makes of decoder and they tried two others, for whatever reason the ones they chose work and the ones I had to hand don't! So I bought one of the ones they tried and it's fine. Now that's service and provided them with some useful info too. For reference Bachmann and Lenz no problem but Gaugemaster and ESU lokpilot cause flickering lights and strange running! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold 81C Posted December 22, 2016 RMweb Gold Share Posted December 22, 2016 For £124, I would have expected a parallel chimney and cylinders pointing in the right direction. The chimney is parallel just measured it with some verniers if it is out it would be by only the thickness of a gnat's **acker. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miss Prism Posted December 22, 2016 Share Posted December 22, 2016 Thanks, maybe it was just the earlier pictures, some of which looked ok, but I was trying not to guess what the final thing might look like, compared to the recent ones. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold 81C Posted December 22, 2016 RMweb Gold Share Posted December 22, 2016 (edited) Thanks, maybe it was just the earlier pictures, some of which looked ok, but I was trying not to guess what the final thing might look like, compared to the recent ones. Miss P I've now checked the cylinder incline against a DJH cast kit and they appear to be very close again if they are out it's by a very small amount, like Hattons they done their selves no favours showing the paying public photo's of pre-production models. Like most new models you can alway find a fault but I'm happy with mine and the gold/copper pipe under the tanks is now green. Edited December 22, 2016 by 81C 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold gwrrob Posted December 22, 2016 RMweb Gold Share Posted December 22, 2016 Miss P I've now checked the cylinder incline against a DJH cast kit and they appear to be very close again if they are out it's by a very small amount, like Hattons they done their selves no favours showing the paying public photo's of pre-production models. Like most new models you can alway find a fault but I'm happy with mine and the gold/copper pipe under the tanks is now green. Can we have a proper photo then Bob ? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gooderz Posted December 22, 2016 Share Posted December 22, 2016 (edited) Today was my last firing turn on 1369, thought a picture was appropriate! Edited December 22, 2016 by gooderz 6 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold 81C Posted December 22, 2016 RMweb Gold Share Posted December 22, 2016 Can we have a proper photo then Bob ? Straight out of the box photo, I've got Modelmaster plates to go on so I wasn't concerned about the crooked one's I did get the pleasure of seeing it run on the test track in the store before I parted with the cash there's just a few minor alteration and detailing bits like crew etc to do but most of all it didn't stall once anywhere on my layout at slow speed it weighs in at 192 grams which must help. 7 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold ROSSPOP Posted December 22, 2016 RMweb Gold Share Posted December 22, 2016 I don`t usually make a comment over RTR offerings...but in this case I`m glad I`m not a prisoner to them. Terrible buffers,,,,, a mess of a footplate edge.... round sausage shaped lamp irons, moulding pips a plenty to most of the fittings and a cylinder that needs filing smooth. A reasonable effort at 3D printing I suppose....... Merry Christmas 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sp1 Posted December 22, 2016 Share Posted December 22, 2016 I don`t usually make a comment over RTR offerings...but in this case I`m glad I`m not a prisoner to them. Terrible buffers,,,,, a mess of a footplate edge.... round sausage shaped lamp irons, moulding pips a plenty to most of the fittings and a cylinder that needs filing smooth. A reasonable effort at 3D printing I suppose....... Merry Christmas Sad to say, I agree, you might have added that the rear cab side handrail sticks out to far at the top, and, to my eyes the chimney seems to be leaning forwards? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
lofty1966 Posted December 22, 2016 Share Posted December 22, 2016 I didn't pre-order on these and rather glad I didn't. Seems poor value for money that is asked and I see some joker on e-thief is trying to get 160 quid for these. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold phil_sutters Posted December 22, 2016 RMweb Gold Share Posted December 22, 2016 (edited) I don't seem to have uploaded Dad's three Weymouth photos - so here they are - and a later shot of 1369 on the South Devon Railway in 1967 Perhaps I need to try a new scan of this one, if I can find the negative. Edited December 22, 2016 by phil_sutters 17 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium wagonbasher Posted December 23, 2016 RMweb Premium Share Posted December 23, 2016 Sad to say, I agree, you might have added that the rear cab side handrail sticks out to far at the top, and, to my eyes the chimney seems to be leaning forwards? Interesting comment on the hand rail. The comment is correct of course but something is not right with 1369's cab handrail in Weymouth photograph. Andy Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold phil_sutters Posted December 23, 2016 RMweb Gold Share Posted December 23, 2016 (edited) Interesting comment on the hand rail. The comment is correct of course but something is not right with 1369's cab handrail in Weymouth photograph. Andy It looks as though the cab's wall has been bent out a slightly, because the rail itself doesn't look distorted - just not parallel with its mate. Nice to see the bell - and the plastic bucket! Edited December 23, 2016 by phil_sutters 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Ian Hargrave Posted December 23, 2016 RMweb Gold Share Posted December 23, 2016 (edited) I didn't pre-order on these and rather glad I didn't. Seems poor value for money that is asked and I see some joker on e-thief is trying to get 160 quid for these. Yes well Heljan over the last few years have tended to be priced a little higher than the competition in any case.Please let's not go down the same route as has happened on a nearby thread quite recently Edited December 23, 2016 by Ian Hargrave Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium wagonbasher Posted December 23, 2016 RMweb Premium Share Posted December 23, 2016 It looks as though the cab's wall has been bent out a slightly, because the rail itself doesn't look distorted - just not parallel with its mate. Nice to see the bell - and the plastic bucket! I think the bottom knob has hit something bending it backwards. Not surprising considering the traffic in those narrow streets Andy Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Froxfield2012 Posted December 23, 2016 Share Posted December 23, 2016 I don't seem to have uploaded Dad's three Weymouth photos - so here they are - GWR 060PT 1367 Weymouth 2 7 1960.jpg GWR 060PT 1369 Weymouth 2 7 1960.jpg GWR 0-6-0PT 1370 Weymouth 1950s.jpg and a later shot of 1369 on the South Devon Railway in 1967 GWR 1369 4555 South Devon Railway 28 6 1967.jpg Perhaps I need to try a new scan of this one, if I can find the negative. Good photos with memories of Weymouth! There must have been something about the location of picture number two which means that the loco tries to escape from the right hand side of the shot. See my father's effort earlier in this thread!!! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miss Prism Posted December 23, 2016 Share Posted December 23, 2016 Note the front rhs step for the 'Weymouths': http://www.davidheyscollection.com/userimages/00001-d-turner-1367-R.jpg https://mikemorant.smugmug.com/Trains-Railways-British-Isles/GWR-and-BRW/GWR-pannier-tanks/i-BCJcprH Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miss Prism Posted December 23, 2016 Share Posted December 23, 2016 1369 seems to be the only member of the class to have received lhs bunker steps. A very late '50s mod, I think. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold adb968008 Posted December 23, 2016 RMweb Gold Share Posted December 23, 2016 (edited) Just food for thought... Didn't realise how big a 14xx was... Also the variance between couplings, to me the 14xx is too high, the 13xx is too low... The bell is push fit :-) Edited December 23, 2016 by adb968008 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Ian Hargrave Posted December 23, 2016 RMweb Gold Share Posted December 23, 2016 Coupling height seems to be a perennial headache with Heljan.Nice images. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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