keefr2 Posted May 6, 2017 Share Posted May 6, 2017 I wouldn't care to say whether bluetooth or DCC sound is better (although Druid's horn at the start of the vid sounded much more realistic than any DCC effort I've heard), what I would say is it must be a thoroughly enjoyable way to spend a sunny Spring afternoon, watching (& listening!) to trains running through your lovely garden Phill... Keith Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
CME and Bottlewasher Posted May 6, 2017 Share Posted May 6, 2017 (edited) Surely the sound quality will have a great deal more to do with the speaker size and DCC or BT is just a delivery system. Both will presumably use a digital sound file which will vary in quality depending on the way they're put together. The sound on the video will vary with the quality of the recording equipment used - again nothing to do with DCC v BT. I still don't get it. Dave Dave, compression and enclosure sizes for speakers/speaker type & quality ALL play their part and the standardish speaker/enclosures for DCC compound the problem. Ive written chapter and verse on 'scale' sound over the years. Sound waves, like water & smoke dont scale. On eg, Mostyn the under-baseboard speakers/sound system (more than likely had a sub woofer too) and for numerous moving trains and background noise the effect was stunning....finescale sound for a finescale layout. Sadly, I would say, listening to DCC sound, at least 50% of it doesnt sound 'scale' or worse, sounds like a fart in a bean tin Ha ha! I agree a You Tube clip isnt ideal, yet like a good quality video game (and sound track) run through 2:1, 5:1 et al speakers, Phill's loco has the same feel/effect to it and probably sounds even better in reality Hi Dave... DCC sound quality is constrained by the compression necessary to store samples on the chip. Lots of the harmonics are lost. Sending quality uncompressed (in this context) sounds (even through tiny speakers) via bluetooth is much better. Phill uses Radio Control/battery power so he's happy to have a sound system that doesn't rely on track power. Lastly, it can cost less than £15 per loco. Huge benefits, as I'm sure you'll agree. Randall Hi Randell, good points well made, I agree. Some DCC sound is superb, ie the Lionheart Panniers and one or two others, but at a lot less cost Phill's BT set up is darn close and better than, as I say, 50% of other DCC sound AFAIC/FWICT. Kind regards to all, CME. Edited May 6, 2017 by CME and Bottlewasher Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phill Dyson (onslaught832) Posted June 15, 2017 Author Share Posted June 15, 2017 (edited) Hi At the recent Doncaster GOG Show I was on the look out for line side details capable of withstanding the outdoor life. I bought some of Skytrex's excellent buildings as these are already used at Withercombe on both the indoor & outdoor sections & have proved suitable in both environments. First job was to clean up the flash on the moldings & slap some Halfords primer on..... Next was to ad the basic colours using various enamels ..... Then all the buildings were given the run down look with yet more enamels to suite my Withered Arm branch line... Finally here is a pic with some of the buildings & line side features installed permanently outside, you will notice the Skytrex plate layers hut which has been there for several years now in all the British weather can through at it! Edited June 15, 2017 by Phill Dyson (onslaught832) 12 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phill Dyson (onslaught832) Posted June 15, 2017 Author Share Posted June 15, 2017 The heavily modified Skytrex Peak is also making good progress now having been fitted with Bluetooth sound motor & gears etc. This loco now just needs the details & R/C gear adding...... 10 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
CME and Bottlewasher Posted June 15, 2017 Share Posted June 15, 2017 Hi At the recent Doncaster GOG Show I was on the look out for line side details capable of withstanding the outdoor life. I bought some of Skytrex's excellent buildings as these are already used at Withercombe on both the indoor & outdoor sections & have proved suitable in both environments. First job was to clean up the flash on the moldings & slap some Halfords primer on..... 1-20170603_173535.jpg Next was to ad the basic colours using various enamels ..... 1-20170604_131638.jpg Then all the buildings were given the run down look with yet more enamels to suite my Withered Arm branch line... 1-20170606_205226-001.jpg 1-20170606_205305-001.jpg 1-20170606_205323-001.jpg Finally here is a pic with some of the buildings & line side features installed permanently outside, you will notice the Skytrex plate layers hut which has been there for several years now in all the British weather can through at it! 1-20170615_103112.jpg Hi Phill, Yes I have very similar buildings of their's for outdoors - cover point motors/actuators etc....very nice work mate! The heavily modified Skytrex Peak is also making good progress now having been fitted with Bluetooth sound motor & gears etc. This loco now just needs the details & R/C gear adding...... 1-20170603_174328.jpg 1-20170603_174629.jpg Superb! Very nice indeed....which RC system are you going to use, the norm., or trial deltang versions? Kindest regards and ATVB CME 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phill Dyson (onslaught832) Posted June 15, 2017 Author Share Posted June 15, 2017 Hi Phill, Yes I have very similar buildings of their's for outdoors - cover point motors/actuators etc....very nice work mate! Superb! Very nice indeed....which RC system are you going to use, the norm., or trial deltang versions? Kindest regards and ATVB CME Hi CME I will be using usual system as I already have the gear, but for the next one I will trial Deltang as I have heard some very positive reports & it a lot cheaper Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
CME and Bottlewasher Posted June 15, 2017 Share Posted June 15, 2017 (edited) Hi Phill, Thanks for the update I saw some Deltang products being used on a SM32 live steam, indoor, BLT shunting layout. The locos were fitted with the steam version of the Deltang system and 'Slomo' modified live steam locos. The whole set up worked better than most DC layouts but with real steam and smoke effects. I was very impressed! ATVB, CME Edited June 15, 2017 by CME and Bottlewasher Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phill Dyson (onslaught832) Posted June 18, 2017 Author Share Posted June 18, 2017 A bit too hot for me outside today So I have been doing a few more line side details, in this case a sheet of etch LSWR signs from a S/H stall at a Guild show. The first job was to cut them out & solder them to a bit of oo gauge rail I had lying around (which looked about right for 7mm fence posts to me ) Then with a bit of enamel ..... & a touch of weathering to tone them down a bit ...... 6 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
CME and Bottlewasher Posted June 18, 2017 Share Posted June 18, 2017 Very nice Phill, very productive. I should be outside, laying/soldering track....but it's way too hot in direct sun! So I have been coach fettling instead. Kindest regards, CME 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phill Dyson (onslaught832) Posted June 24, 2017 Author Share Posted June 24, 2017 In the last couple of weeks I have been adding a few line side details to the Withercombe branch. One such project has been the creation of telegraph poles which were a feature of every UK railway line, but now a thing of the past.These were made using some small garden canes i came across in a local store with the addition of some garden wire from the same store. The wire makes a reasonable representation of the horizontal bar & insulators at each end, this style of telegraph pole were very typical of branch lines such as Withercombe.......... 6 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
P.C.M Posted June 24, 2017 Share Posted June 24, 2017 Hi Phill, Some nice progress, the new Skytrex buildings look really good as does the Peak. Cheers Peter. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
CME and Bottlewasher Posted June 24, 2017 Share Posted June 24, 2017 In the last couple of weeks I have been adding a few line side details to the Withercombe branch. One such project has been the creation of telegraph poles which were a feature of every UK railway line, but now a thing of the past. These were made using some small garden canes i came across in a local store with the addition of some garden wire from the same store. The wire makes a reasonable representation of the horizontal bar & insulators at each end, this style of telegraph pole were very typical of branch lines such as Withercombe.......... 1-20170619_202438.jpg 1-20170622_135709-001.jpg 1-20170622_124733.jpg 1-20170623_131251.jpg 1-20170623_132601.jpg Hi Phill, That is very brave of you - nice work, a nice addition. We have added such to the H&BLR as the line is a little above thigh height.....I wont be able to do the same on Down Ampney as they would get crushed very quickly. ATVB CME 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium 2ManySpams Posted June 24, 2017 RMweb Premium Share Posted June 24, 2017 Evening Phil, what's the origin of the signal box? Many thanks Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phill Dyson (onslaught832) Posted June 24, 2017 Author Share Posted June 24, 2017 Hi Phill, Some nice progress, the new Skytrex buildings look really good as does the Peak. Cheers Peter. Thanks Pete, nice to hear from you Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phill Dyson (onslaught832) Posted June 24, 2017 Author Share Posted June 24, 2017 Evening Phil, what's the origin of the signal box? Many thanks It's a NMB resin kit which is now sold by Skytrex Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium 2ManySpams Posted June 25, 2017 RMweb Premium Share Posted June 25, 2017 It's a NMB resin kit which is now sold by Skytrex Thanks for that. I'm interested because I need to build a stone version for Pencarrow and the upper storey windows look just the ticket for the build. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phill Dyson (onslaught832) Posted June 25, 2017 Author Share Posted June 25, 2017 Thanks for that. I'm interested because I need to build a stone version for Pencarrow and the upper storey windows look just the ticket for the build. Your welcome Chris, they also do a stone version of this Signal Box http://www.ogauge.co.uk/signal-boxes/249-7-154-lswr-stone-built-signal-box.html?search_query=signal+box&results=17&HTTP_REFERER=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.ogauge.co.uk%2Fsearch%3Fcontroller%3Dsearch%26orderby%3Dposition%26orderway%3Ddesc%26search_query%3Dsignal%2Bbox%26submit_search%3D Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phill Dyson (onslaught832) Posted June 28, 2017 Author Share Posted June 28, 2017 Now that I have approximately 50 telegraph poles running round the garden , I have moved onto the next couple of projects for Withercombe. The first one is a Depatmental coach for withercombe in the style of this one....... I am using a Easybuild MK1 Suburban as a basis for this project..... I am also building a signal using MSE components based on this one at Ilfracombe.... Signal building is a new experience for me, so feel free to offer help & advice . I have made a start by soldering up the main post last night. The instructions say us a square piece of brass for the base, but I have added a spike instead so the signal can be planted less visibly ? 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phill Dyson (onslaught832) Posted June 28, 2017 Author Share Posted June 28, 2017 I have spent a pleasant hour or so building up the main structure of the signal...... But can anyone tell me what these parts are for ? ( they came on the main signal post etch) 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
CME and Bottlewasher Posted June 28, 2017 Share Posted June 28, 2017 (edited) Now that I have approximately 50 telegraph poles running round the garden , I have moved onto the next couple of projects for Withercombe. The first one is a Depatmental coach for withercombe in the style of this one....... 1-20150920_180702-1.jpg I am using a Easybuild MK1 Suburban as a basis for this project..... 1-20170622_135827-001.jpg I am also building a signal using MSE components based on this one at Ilfracombe.... is.JPG Signal building is a new experience for me, so feel free to offer help & advice . I have made a start by soldering up the main post last night. 1-20170627_155138.jpg The instructions say us a square piece of brass for the base, but I have added a spike instead so the signal can be planted less visibly ? 1-20170627_161805.jpg Hi Phill, Loving the coach, did you build it from a kit or did Shawn supply the parts? Loving the signal too-I have little or no experience in signal building, so I shall watch your progress with interest. Keep up the good work, ATVB, CME Edited June 28, 2017 by CME and Bottlewasher 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
DavidB Posted June 28, 2017 Share Posted June 28, 2017 Cracking work Phill - your railway just goes on getting better and better! Thanks for continuing to keep us all posted on the latest updates. David 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Softvark Posted June 28, 2017 Share Posted June 28, 2017 But can anyone tell me what these parts are for ? ( they came on the main signal post etch) 1-20170628_112822.jpg Hi Phill I believe they are the lamp bracket (top) and the arm bearing. Your build is timely as I'm attempting to build one myself Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phill Dyson (onslaught832) Posted June 28, 2017 Author Share Posted June 28, 2017 Hi Phill, Loving the coach, did you build it from a kit or did Shawn supply the parts? Loving the signal too-I have little or no experience in signal building, so I shall watch your progress with interest. Keep up the good work, ATVB, CME It was a S/H Easybuild coach which I modified to it's new use CME Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phill Dyson (onslaught832) Posted June 28, 2017 Author Share Posted June 28, 2017 Cracking work Phill - your railway just goes on getting better and better! Thanks for continuing to keep us all posted on the latest updates. David Thank you David, your kind words are very much appreciated Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phill Dyson (onslaught832) Posted June 28, 2017 Author Share Posted June 28, 2017 Hi Phill I believe they are the lamp bracket (top) and the arm bearing. Your build is timely as I'm attempting to build one myself Thanks for that Softvark, Lamp Brackets it is Are you posting your signal build? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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