RMweb Gold Donw Posted March 8, 2015 RMweb Gold Share Posted March 8, 2015 One thing with a brass chimney and dome you cannot poke a soldering iron into it easily done witha whitemetal one. Don Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium 2ManySpams Posted March 8, 2015 Author RMweb Premium Share Posted March 8, 2015 How is the 1366 coming on or have you mothballed it until you have the courage to continue on it? Pete It's resting until the O2 is finished. Got some bits for it yesterday. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium 2ManySpams Posted March 8, 2015 Author RMweb Premium Share Posted March 8, 2015 looking at prototype photos I wasn't happy with my fabrication of the sandbox linkage. I noted yesterday that Laurie Griffin did a lost wax brass casting (ref 25-55)... That's better. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium 2ManySpams Posted March 8, 2015 Author RMweb Premium Share Posted March 8, 2015 Beading added to the tank tops... Page 10 of the destructions cover this bit and the next photo. I'm leaving the tank end handrails until later to prevent damage. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium 2ManySpams Posted March 8, 2015 Author RMweb Premium Share Posted March 8, 2015 And coal rails added to the bunker... Cab roof is next. Should be fun? (page 11 of the destructions covers variations not applicable to 30200) 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium 2ManySpams Posted March 8, 2015 Author RMweb Premium Share Posted March 8, 2015 Oh, and the under gubbins looks like this now... 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mike47j Posted March 8, 2015 Share Posted March 8, 2015 The cab roof is removable by design, but mine falls off every time you pick the loco up an turn it over. It needs something extra to keep it on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
N15class Posted March 8, 2015 Share Posted March 8, 2015 The cab roof is removable by design, but mine falls off every time you pick the loco up an turn it over. It needs something extra to keep it on. Drive more carefully and keep it wheel side down, :jester: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium 2ManySpams Posted March 8, 2015 Author RMweb Premium Share Posted March 8, 2015 Would you like a photo of how my removable cab roof is achieved?The cab roof is removable and, although I intend driving it wheels side down, I've found that it's not a very positive fit. So yes, photos appreciated. Pages 12 and 13 of the destructions cover the cab roof although 30200 like all/most mainland O2s didn't have a roof vent. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Donw Posted March 8, 2015 RMweb Gold Share Posted March 8, 2015 Didn't we go through removeable roofs elsewhere on a Toad? Don Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium 2ManySpams Posted March 8, 2015 Author RMweb Premium Share Posted March 8, 2015 And a loco with a floppy-fitting roof... 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Stubby47 Posted March 8, 2015 RMweb Gold Share Posted March 8, 2015 Blu-tac. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium 2ManySpams Posted March 8, 2015 Author RMweb Premium Share Posted March 8, 2015 Well that's it as far as the main structural items go, it's all detailing from now on in. Flicking through the photos found of 30200 (see page 1 for the list of books) shows lots of nice detail variations. Reference photos will be essential from now on... The two above were taken on the same day (10 September 1960) by Peter Gray and show the loco running minus it's safety valve cover. The lower image is extracted from a Peter Gray photo from his Steam in Cornwall book. The above shot at Wadebridge shows a very common addition...Looks like a big tin can on the splasher under the smokebox valve thingy. Catching oil? Extract of a photo by Keith R Pirt taken from page 48 of Steam Colour Portfolio Southern Lines Volume 2. Despite the gleaming tank sides I note that the smokebox and chimney look somewhat weathered! 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium 2ManySpams Posted March 8, 2015 Author RMweb Premium Share Posted March 8, 2015 A few more... A rare photo of the left side and men looking at the drip? A rare bunker first shot showing the lamp iron positions. Extract from a Peter Gray shot dated 10 September 1960, page 63 of Alan Bennett's Southern Holiday Lines in North Cornwall and West Devon. A poor quality shot of the tank tops, could do with a clearer view really. Another mid-50s early crest shot showing that the drip can was a long lasting addition. Interesting that the middle lamp bracket is fixed to the buffer beam face - smokebox door clearance? I'll add dates and book refs tomorrow but those few photos seem to be the best available to aid the next stage. 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
puddlejumper Posted March 9, 2015 Share Posted March 9, 2015 Some great pics there, just goes to prove you can't have enough prototype info available to you. Good to see you back on here, I was getting a bit worried Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brianthesnail96 Posted March 9, 2015 Share Posted March 9, 2015 Agree with Doug, I've been really enjoying following (and learning from) this thread, good to see you back posting and progress being made Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Donw Posted March 9, 2015 RMweb Gold Share Posted March 9, 2015 I dont know if this is any use Don 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Donw Posted March 9, 2015 RMweb Gold Share Posted March 9, 2015 Live steam modellers in 16mm scale use displacement lubricators and messy things they are too. I dont have too much trouble with them. You do have to remember to drain them and refill them. If you time it right there is mostly water left in it to drain Don Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mike47j Posted March 9, 2015 Share Posted March 9, 2015 Possibly the middle lamp bracket is on the buffer beam to make opening the cylinder cover or access to the cylinders easier. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium 2ManySpams Posted March 9, 2015 Author RMweb Premium Share Posted March 9, 2015 Didn't we go through removeable roofs elsewhere on a Toad? Don Yes we did Don, having had a play this evening I'll probably do something similar here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium 2ManySpams Posted March 9, 2015 Author RMweb Premium Share Posted March 9, 2015 Safety valve thingies... Option A: the whitemetal casting from the kit. Or Option B: a Laurie Griffin two-part casting (ref 24-3)? Both are dimensionally spot on and are clean castings but I think Laurie's has the edge. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold colin penfold Posted March 9, 2015 RMweb Gold Share Posted March 9, 2015 Nice to have you back Chris. My new Avatar drew you out? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Stubby47 Posted March 9, 2015 RMweb Gold Share Posted March 9, 2015 Why doesn't Jim add Lauries bits to his kit in the first place ? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
raymw Posted March 9, 2015 Share Posted March 9, 2015 I believe Jim does his own whitemetal castings - adding brass bits from another third party would increase the price, and whitemetal is sufficient in many cases. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium 2ManySpams Posted March 9, 2015 Author RMweb Premium Share Posted March 9, 2015 Why doesn't Jim add Lauries bits to his kit in the first place ?Probably cost Stu. Also depends on what you want. I prefer the robustness of brass and I'm happier soldering it. Unlike the 1366, the as supplied castings are accurate and look the part. IMO Laurie's are a touch finer and that suits me for a loco on a small layout that will be closely scrutinised as it potters about. If it were thrashing around on a big layout, lost against loads of other stock then I wouldn't bother. I'm only going to have a few locos so can afford to guild each one a bit more. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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