sir douglas Posted November 25, 2018 Author Share Posted November 25, 2018 ive thought about a hibberd or planet but ive already got one Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ruston Posted November 27, 2018 Share Posted November 27, 2018 Are you aware that Thomas Hill built a couple of locos that were 6wDH but looked otherwise like the ex-Wakefield Power Station, don't you? Just a thought, which would mean you can keep the chassis on 6 wheels. See here - http://www.rmweb.co.uk/community/index.php?/topic/11386-industrial-shunter-identification/ Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sir douglas Posted November 28, 2018 Author Share Posted November 28, 2018 thanks for that Dave, i didnt know of the 6 wheel version but i'd rather have a 4 wheeler, but while writing this ive just realised what i should have looked up before, the conversion of Elizabeth from a sentinel was done in 1965 but my layout is set in the mid 50's so i cant do it after all. I'll ust have to something else like a steam sentinel Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sir douglas Posted December 1, 2018 Author Share Posted December 1, 2018 (edited) the crew are now being worked on, the driver came from one of my Halfmoon Colliery locos and the fireman is a bash of arms, head and body from different secondhand figure kits and the right hand was cut and turned 90 degrees on the clips are the rear sand pots being painted and the reversing lever pots and lever glued in, safety valves superglued in place on the saddle. i cant remember where i got the pack of brass knobs, the brass wires are soldered in and the knobs are superglued into the saddle Painting in progress Edited December 21, 2018 by sir douglas 12 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sir douglas Posted December 5, 2018 Author Share Posted December 5, 2018 (edited) Had a cold last week which left me a bit drained and just when i thought i was over it and feeling better, i tried to do some Eyemouth baseboard work at the club on Monday which left me drained again but i think i am now over it, which is why ive been doing less modelling lately but also yet again ive been given a box of stuff. This time some old OO chassis' and motors from a member of our club who "is on his way out" so to speak and this is the last of the bits they couldnt sell or give away so they were handed down to me, they will be turned into 7mm narrow gauge locos, mainly british locos abroad such as one ive already started on will be an Alcoy & Gandia (spain)/Malta styled Beyer Peacock 2-6-4, another could be made into a Minos & Rio 2-6-0 tender, any way back to the Peckett. crew painted and ready to go on cab back stuck down in place to work on the cab handrails. adding in supports across in the roof roof and whistle with crew added inside injector feed continuing on from the copper wires on the firebox from before Edited December 21, 2018 by sir douglas 10 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sir douglas Posted December 6, 2018 Author Share Posted December 6, 2018 (edited) my order for a load of bits from S&Dmodels/Fortythird came yesterday. 2 things for my layout, a lubricator for the Peckett and the rest for the next loco including water gauge, brake column, pressure gauge and safety valve housing. The lubricator i positioned on the back of the chimney. with that on it with the whistle and spectacle plates could be painted, the footplate was painted over and strengthening beams glued on underneath which are also there as the fascia. To fit the chassis, the top of the cylinders and motion brackets had an angle filed out and the beams had chamfers cut in to match. Also shown are the leaf springs which were going to be on the running plate instead put them on the inside of the mainframes as they should be. there is only half of the rear springs as the rest is are hidden behind the saddle tank supports. the springs were built up in layers on a wooden jig just like on the Planet http://www.rmweb.co.uk/community/index.php?/topic/91456-sirdouglas-o-gauge/?p=2493890 Edited December 21, 2018 by sir douglas 10 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
hartleymartin Posted December 8, 2018 Share Posted December 8, 2018 (edited) Dava is responsible for the first 0-4-0 conversion I had ever seen. I started on my own "Planet" conversion, but I had to abandon it when one of the wheel sets got damaged. In the end I purchased the model that was inspiring my own conversion: http://www.rmweb.co.uk/community/index.php?/topic/60529-atlas-plymouth-to-hibberd-planet-conversion/ After I purchased this one, I did a little bit of work to it - I sorted out the tendency for it to wheelie by adding some lead sheet behind the radiator and I added some cast brass handles to the hood doors, a couple of handrails to the hood and an etched brass No. 5 plate from the leftovers of my Ixion Hudswell Clarke. I think I also replaced the buffers with larger ones (hence why the housings are painted black). DCC conversion may prove too much, but I have been meaning to put in new lighting. I also have some more body mouldings for the Atlas somewhere in my collection. I had planned to do a second body for this loco so the chassis can do double-duty if I ever need a bit of extra variety at an exhibition. Edited December 8, 2018 by hartleymartin 9 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
hartleymartin Posted December 8, 2018 Share Posted December 8, 2018 Come to think of it, I should add some shunter's grab-rails and the like. Great thing about freelance models is that you can always add something as you see fit. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sir douglas Posted December 8, 2018 Author Share Posted December 8, 2018 (edited) Measurements, scribbles and drawings for the Atlas are coming together. The other day i was thinking of drilling crankpin holes in the wheels and adding a jackshaft to make a Fowler but then i was looking through the old OO chassis' mentioned before, one of them has been scavenged for the wheels which will be transplanting for the Atlas original wheelsafter cutting out alternate spokes, a test has been done which is succesful. Actual work on the loco will have to wait for christmas day as the Atlas is a christmas present leaf springs painted sand rodding, the lever from the cab goes straight under the right hand side to the crank on top of the sand pot, the left hand pot is connected through a shaft under the boiler just like the lifting links on valve gear Edited December 21, 2018 by sir douglas 13 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sir douglas Posted December 10, 2018 Author Share Posted December 10, 2018 (edited) sand rodding all on and painted Edited December 21, 2018 by sir douglas 11 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sir douglas Posted December 13, 2018 Author Share Posted December 13, 2018 (edited) body screw mounting and ash pan sides for today a stretcher glued inbetween the cylinders, with a hole for the screw and a cutout for the hook drawbar. This is strengthened by a support joined to it with a dovetail Since you can only see some of the ashpan sides through the access holes in the frames only that bit of the sides are modelled. The Narrowplanet plates came today, the "Nautilus" and Peckett plates obviously for this Peckett and the "Highwind" and Beyer Peacock plates are for a loco mentioned some time ago, it was going to be the next loco after the Peckett but the Atlas has queue jumped Edited December 21, 2018 by sir douglas 11 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sir douglas Posted December 15, 2018 Author Share Posted December 15, 2018 (edited) plates painted and fitted. Unlike on my other locos where the brake column cross shaft hangs on brackets below the edge of the frame, Peckett shafts are between the frames with only bolt heads on the outside, so as per the photos ive added four bolt heads to the back of the frames below the cab and picked out a length of plastic rod to go between the frames. In the tray on the right, brake parts are being prepared such as plying up styrene for the brake show hangers, while there is also 2 extras which are a S&Dmodels oil can being painted and a styrene toolbox. The pot has been glued to the footplate just in front of the cab on the right hand side and the toolbox will go on the left Edited December 21, 2018 by sir douglas 7 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sir douglas Posted December 16, 2018 Author Share Posted December 16, 2018 (edited) Nearly there now. brake shoes and hangers ready to go on, i was wondering how to make the brake gear removable to be able to get the wheels out in future, various ideas ran through my head but the simplest to me was to screwy on the shoes and have the hangers glued to the frames and the brake column cross shaft with cranks glued in. The tool is also glued in after painting Brake gear now glued on. the cab steps are secondhand whitemetal super glued to a styrene support which is glued to the frames. draincocks are 4mm lenghts of 1.5mm brass rod soldered to a brass strip, the rods are superglued into drilled holes in the cylinder at this point there is only the reverser reach arm on the right hand side to do which has already been started and the cardboard box to make which i also started Edited December 21, 2018 by sir douglas 6 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium airnimal Posted December 16, 2018 RMweb Premium Share Posted December 16, 2018 Sam, I hope you feel very proud of this loco. You have made a fine scratch built model, far better than anything I built at your age. Mike 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sir douglas Posted December 17, 2018 Author Share Posted December 17, 2018 (edited) with Nautilus just about done, Highwind comes onto the workbench, the frames were initially cut at the same time as Nautilus's. Last night they were cut out and cleaned up and this morning the bearings fitted and the chassis glued together, A facebook group acquaintance that had then recently gone through the BP archives at MoSI and very generously looked at "Gardner" while he was there looking for the Cannock Chase 0-4-2's, the measurements are on the sticky note, the rest is my own working form the photo https://goo.gl/images/mhmbxz Edited December 21, 2018 by sir douglas 5 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sir douglas Posted December 17, 2018 Author Share Posted December 17, 2018 forgot to mention that on my drawing the chimney has been shortened to 11' from 13'2" to fit on deffors but i marked the original height with an arrow 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
hartleymartin Posted December 18, 2018 Share Posted December 18, 2018 Link to source: https://c1.staticflickr.com/8/7001/6751915089_1cc39e9433_b.jpg Looks like an ideal subject for a scratch-build. No outside cylinders, little 0-4-0. Going to put this on the list of locos I'd like to build, but will probably never get around to doing. 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold NeilHB Posted December 18, 2018 RMweb Gold Share Posted December 18, 2018 Sir Douglas, is there a possibility of obtaining a copy of your drawing for the Beyer Peacock 0-4-0 please? I’ve been looking to build one for a while, but hadn’t found suitable drawings/dimensions before now. Happy to reimburse costs etc. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sir douglas Posted December 18, 2018 Author Share Posted December 18, 2018 Looks like an ideal subject for a scratch-build. No outside cylinders, little 0-4-0. Going to put this on the list of locos I'd like to build, but will probably never get around to doing. did you know there was an 0-4-2 just like the cannock's in australia, BP no1876 of 1879 for the Newcastle coal company Sir Douglas, is there a possibility of obtaining a copy of your drawing for the Beyer Peacock 0-4-0 please? I’ve been looking to build one for a while, but hadn’t found suitable drawings/dimensions before now. Happy to reimburse costs etc. would you be happy with emailing you a scan? you would have to wait till the next time i go to the library though Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
hartleymartin Posted December 20, 2018 Share Posted December 20, 2018 (edited) That link isn't working for me, but I think I know the loco you're talking about. There were a pair of 0-4-2s that went through a few rebuilds, one of which ended up as an 0-4-0. I think this is the one: https://livinghistories.newcastle.edu.au/nodes/view/44889 Edited December 20, 2018 by hartleymartin Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sir douglas Posted December 21, 2018 Author Share Posted December 21, 2018 yes thats the one. by January 8th this thread is going to get crippled, flickr is cutting back on free users photo allowance to 1000, i have over 3000 so the most recent 2000 will be deleted which all of the linked photos in this and the Deffors thread, just when i thought i was safe after many other people getting screwed over a few years ago when that other image site stopped free users, so just they did i'll have to go back through the threads to re-upload the photos. so from now on the photos will be direct upload anyway back to it. decided to a bit on at least one of the wagons from Airnimal, i chose the cattle. theres not much about it in the Essery midland wagon books (he has said in PM that the wagons are midland), this looks to be a diagram 100 early short cattle which is only represented by a single photo no measurements or drawing but it can be assumed that its the same size as the later short cattle wagons. the planking on one side was already done so i just copied it on the other side, wheels added with a randomly selected set of axleboxes from the collection, the wheels are set to a 9ft wheel base which looks about right for this wagon The wheels came for Highwind yesterday. 4ft 12 spoke just as on Gardner, i chose the terrier wheels as the slender spokes look right compared to J72 wheels that are chunky The motor was bought from the bring & buy at Doncaster back in the summer, it came with the worm gear and brass frame but no axle gear so that was replaced with one from my collection Once i had the wheels, the whole chassis went together very quickly because i didnt need to make a gearbox and im using plunger pick ups this time. the decision not to make a gearbox came from that the wheels are larger and im using a really good motor so i dont need to the reduction as much, the motor paired with the largest gear i have that meshed with the worm is good enough a shown in the video photo of the test buffers attached underside view 7 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sir douglas Posted December 21, 2018 Author Share Posted December 21, 2018 ive changed my mind and just screw it of my own accord now and delete everything on my flickr Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
brack Posted December 21, 2018 Share Posted December 21, 2018 Aren't Flickr just banning new uploads if you're over the limit (for now)?. I'd suggest making several new free accounts from different free email addresses and just filling them to 999 images then starting a new one. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium J. S. Bach Posted December 22, 2018 RMweb Premium Share Posted December 22, 2018 ive changed my mind and just screw it of my own accord now and delete everything on my flickr Do you have those photos on your computer? If not, download them while/if you can to save them. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sir douglas Posted December 22, 2018 Author Share Posted December 22, 2018 yes i still have all of them and already made sure before deleting everything yesterday. footplate cut and the shell of the firebox built. once the firebox is just about done and ready for painting it will be glued won to the footplate then the front and bottom will be cut out for the motor sides of the wheel arches cut filed and glued on, a detail worth noting is that the side of the arches are flush with the footplate edge. the sides can also have D shaped cut outs such as on the Cannock's but not on Gardner 6 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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