Coach bogie Posted June 22, 2016 Share Posted June 22, 2016 Just seen another variation on eBay. Postwar 1470, cut out in cab step, handrail to roof but NO bunker steps (not sure what use the handrail would be) http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Railway-Photograph-GWR-14xx-Class-0-4-2T-Steam-Loco-1470-Totnes-Station-Auto-/201609267032?hash=item2ef0d94758:g:97UAAOSwgApXAjpX Mike Wiltshire Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coppercap Posted June 22, 2016 Share Posted June 22, 2016 Just seen another variation on eBay. Postwar 1470, cut out in cab step, handrail to roof but NO bunker steps (not sure what use the handrail would be) http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Railway-Photograph-GWR-14xx-Class-0-4-2T-Steam-Loco-1470-Totnes-Station-Auto-/201609267032?hash=item2ef0d94758:g:97UAAOSwgApXAjpX Mike Wiltshire Interesting. It's no doubt been in the works and they fitted the bunker from another loco that was in works at the same time that hadn't yet had the steps fitted. Maybe there was another running about with the bunker steps but no handrail! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quarryscapes Posted June 23, 2016 Share Posted June 23, 2016 A nice easy conversion for someone, hardly any rivets in the bunker seam either so step removal would be a doddle to tidy up. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Hattons Dave Posted June 24, 2016 RMweb Gold Share Posted June 24, 2016 Hi all, To answer a few queries. Coy, we're intending to have stocks of all sixteen releases available for purchase at time of release. Colhut, yes, all six wheels have pickups fitted. RE the alternative pictures and those of BR versions, give me a few minutes....Cheers,Dave 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Hattons Dave Posted June 24, 2016 RMweb Gold Share Posted June 24, 2016 Hi all,Another visit from Dave Jones today saw eight more colour samples arrive. These also came with pre-fitted etched numberplates. We're aware the late crest needs minor tweaking but it is in hand. H1408 - Class 58xx 0-4-2 5816 in BR Lined black with BRITISH RAILWAYS (Gill Sans) H1409 - Class 14xx 0-4-2 1470 in BR Lined black with early emblem H1410 - Class 58xx 0-4-2 5819 in BR Unlined black with early emblem H1412 - Class 14xx 0-4-2 1474 in BR Unlined black with early emblem - Heavily weathered H1413 - Class 14xx 0-4-2 1444 in BR Lined green with early emblem H1414 - Class 14xx 0-4-2 1450 in BR Lined green with late crest H1415 - Class 14xx 0-4-2 1432 in BR Lined green with late crest - Heavily weathered H1416 - Class 14xx 0-4-2 1409 in BR Unlined green with late crest Cheers,Dave 10 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Hattons Dave Posted June 24, 2016 RMweb Gold Share Posted June 24, 2016 As requested, a few additional 'Right hand side' shots as well as a photo of all sixteen as they stand currently. Numberplates have been received for the initial 8 featured last week too. Cheers,Dave 14 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
coachmann Posted June 24, 2016 Share Posted June 24, 2016 (edited) The models look nice except that the recess for locating the cabside plates ain't making it. They're still cock-eyed.... Edited June 24, 2016 by coachmann Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold 81C Posted June 24, 2016 RMweb Gold Share Posted June 24, 2016 The lining and number plates. OH DEAR, OH DEAR, OH DEAR. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeccerGW Posted June 24, 2016 Share Posted June 24, 2016 They look stunning!Got a 1470 on order and a Bachmann Blood and Custard Autocoach to go with it. Very excited for it now! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted June 24, 2016 Share Posted June 24, 2016 With regards to H1408, will this be produced without the shed-plate moulding? Or as pictured; with it, but blacked out. Quite taken by the BR examples Regards, Matt Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dreadnought05 Posted June 24, 2016 Share Posted June 24, 2016 Thanks for those BR liveried ones. Looks like I'll be getting at least 4 versions! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Hilux5972 Posted June 24, 2016 RMweb Premium Share Posted June 24, 2016 Looking at the number plates I hope they remove that recess from the Kings. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom F Posted June 25, 2016 Share Posted June 25, 2016 (edited) Hmmm, those recess's still concern me, it doesn't help that a number of plates are wonky. Although I'm planning to renumber, I do notice the recess around the plates is visible too..... I see the smokebox lamp iron is missing, will these be present on the production models? Edited June 25, 2016 by 9793 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold The Fatadder Posted June 25, 2016 RMweb Gold Share Posted June 25, 2016 Hmmm, those recess's still concern me, it doesn't help that a number of plates are wonky. Although I'm planning to renumber, I do notice the recess around the plates is visible too..... I see the smokebox lamp iron is missing, will these be present on the production models? I thought the whole purpose of that recess was to ensure the plates are always straight, yet here we are with wonky plates still.... Fingers crossed Hattons see sense and get rid of it on the King! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Bigcheeseplant Posted June 25, 2016 Share Posted June 25, 2016 The wheels look chunky but as I will be changing them to P4 Ultrascales this is not a problem for me, as has been said before the chimney is not quite right. But as someone who likes to model I will be improving this and other bits and bobs. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gismorail Posted June 25, 2016 Share Posted June 25, 2016 Very impressive model but as has been mentioned the lining and number plate ???????????? sorry lets the side down in my humble opinion . Any chance of producing a green and black version with no lining or numbers save a lot of work of the re-spray work that I would have to undertake ... but a cracking model other wise Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Bigcheeseplant Posted June 25, 2016 Share Posted June 25, 2016 One thing that does stick out or not stick out enough are the steps these should have a wider tread the same issue was on the old Airfix model. As far as I am aware there are no etched replacements but it maybe something I could draw up at some point if enough people are interested. David 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
B15nac Posted June 25, 2016 Share Posted June 25, 2016 Looks a fantastic model an I will be buying a few. One thing will the wheel rims be painted black? Regards Neil Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coppercap Posted June 25, 2016 Share Posted June 25, 2016 One thing that does stick out or not stick out enough are the steps these should have a wider tread the same issue was on the old Airfix model. As far as I am aware there are no etched replacements but it maybe something I could draw up at some point if enough people are interested.David Yes, they look a bit 'Tri-ang Hornby'. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
rembrow Posted June 25, 2016 Share Posted June 25, 2016 Hmmm, those recess's still concern me, it doesn't help that a number of plates are wonky. Although I'm planning to renumber, I do notice the recess around the plates is visible too..... I see the smokebox lamp iron is missing, will these be present on the production models? I raised this with Hattons when the first ep models were shown. These recesses are to aid the production fitting of the plates by the production staff, avoiding the use of jigs to get them square. The problem is that unless the manufacturing tolerances for the plates and the plastic cab structure are close, there will be play in the recess with the plate loose fitted, which can lead to it not being fitted square, and a line around some of the edges, where there is a gap. I believe Hattons were advised to use this system by DJ Models, the company contracted to produce them, and Dave Jones used this system before on GWR models when production manager at Dapol. The Dapol 'n' gauge models can exhibit the same lack of squareness with their plates. I was advised by Hattons that they did not intend to change the 14/48 design and I don't think they will change the intentions for the King Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold 57xx Posted June 25, 2016 RMweb Gold Share Posted June 25, 2016 The models look nice except that the recess for locating the cabside plates ain't making it. They're still cock-eyed.... And with a visible gap around the edge. There is also a horrible gap at the base of the buffer between the square base and round section. I'm wondering if the safety valve and dome will be cleaned up on the final models so they actually look like sheet metal and not cast iron? The dome also shouldn't merge smoothly into the boiler cladding like it does here. There is a distinct lip on the real thing. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold 57xx Posted June 25, 2016 RMweb Gold Share Posted June 25, 2016 (edited) Has anyone "told Dave", or indeed, Hattons? Yes, back in December 2014 #141 and then again a year later in December 2015 #381. A PM about the same to DJ went ignored and is still unread. I finally mailed Hattons direct January this year and got the reasoning regarding the business case for omission. For those with condescending remarks towards Edwardian for being disappointed about the omission, here's a reminder of what was originally promised from post #1. Specification: RP25 wheel profiles 6 Pin DCC Socket Provision for DCC sound speaker in coal bunker Chemically blackened wheels Separately fitted and blackened handrails NEM pockets with tension lock couplings 5 pole motor, capable of similar running qualities to DJ Models Austerity or better Fully detailed and painted cab interior Vacuum brake pipes fitted to bufferbeams - additional bufferbeam detailing pipes included with model for customer to fit Separately fitted etched brass cabside numberplates (as per King class) Separately fitted BR smokebox door numberplate & shedplate (where applicable) Provision of Auto-working gear (or lack of) where applicable to specific model Correct details for individual model - Top Feed, Bunker Steps, Whistle Guard Separately supplied and fitted headlamps (as per King class) Electrical pickup on all six wheels Prototypical gap between frames with cosmetic inside motion Separately fitted smokebox door handle/dart Variation of top-feed and non-top feed fitted boilers Cab window glazing Seperately fitted (and removable) cabside doors Correct fitment of ATC equipment and whistle guard per model Edited June 25, 2016 by 57xx Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom F Posted June 25, 2016 Share Posted June 25, 2016 (edited) And with a visible gap around the edge. There is also a horrible gap at the base of the buffer between the square base and round section. I'm wondering if the safety valve and dome will be cleaned up on the final models so they actually look like sheet metal and not cast iron? The dome also shouldn't merge smoothly into the boiler cladding like it does here. There is a distinct lip on the real thing. Hmm' I'd missed that regarding the dome, good point! I've currently two of these on order, but I'm genuinely wondering if building a chassis and detailing the old airfix body I have upstairs, maybe a more viable option. Edited June 25, 2016 by 9793 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Ryde-on-time Posted June 25, 2016 RMweb Gold Share Posted June 25, 2016 Yes, back in December 2014 #141 and then again a year later in December 2015 #381. A PM about the same to DJ went ignored and is still unread. I finally mailed Hattons direct January this year and got the reasoning regarding the business case for omission. For those with condescending remarks towards Edwardian for being disappointed about the omission, here's a reminder of what was originally promised from post #1. You've highlighted the post promising 'Correct details for individual model - Top Feed, Bunker Steps, Whistle Guard' but that seems correct to me? They didn't promise versions both with and without steps? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Happy Hippo Posted June 25, 2016 RMweb Gold Share Posted June 25, 2016 For those who are so disappointed with the way this model is turning out, I have loads of this brass sheet so that they can scratch build their own ultimate 14/48/58xx. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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