Horsetan Posted February 4, 2015 Share Posted February 4, 2015 .... My favourite used to be that Hackney Cab taxi's had to carry a Bail of Straw in the boot. And if the straw was unsatisfactory and went back to its source, I suppose that made it a "Bail (Bale) to Return".... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
leopardml2341 Posted February 4, 2015 Share Posted February 4, 2015 And if the straw was unsatisfactory and went back to its source, I suppose that made it a "Bail (Bale) to Return".... I'm off to add a request for a 'groan' button............ Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
avonside1563 Posted February 4, 2015 Share Posted February 4, 2015 Handling is one of the easiest offences to gain a conviction for. A handler can even be convicted of the impossible. I think it is R v Shivpuri 1987. It is knowing or believing goods to be stolen, not just knowing. In the not too distant past, you could be convicted of "Unlawful Possession" if you couldn't produce a receipt! These were mainly local authority by-laws, such as the Liverpool Corporation Act. Most of these local by-laws have been superseded by Acts of Parliament. My favourite used to be that Hackney Cab taxi's had to carry a Bail of Straw in the boot. Allegedly it is still legal to shoot a Welshman with a longbow in Hereford, as long as it's on a Sunday and within the Cathedral Close! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hroth Posted February 4, 2015 Share Posted February 4, 2015 Allegedly it is still legal to shoot a Welshman with a longbow in Hereford, as long as it's on a Sunday and within the Cathedral Close! A similar rule is said to apply in Chester, within the walls. Its having the longbow to hand thats the problem.... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt Posted February 4, 2015 Share Posted February 4, 2015 It is often not the original thief that sells the item. Most of those who steal items are not interested in or have little concept of item value. It is often straight down to their local pub/club/community centre and the item is exchanged for a few ££ to fuel their drug habit. The item often passing through several "handlers" before it finally reaches someone with sufficient knowledge to sell it on at a sensible s/h price and is prepared to risk the exposure, delay and traceability of ebay When i used to live in Dorset I suffered the indignity of a breakin. Fortunately despite finding my model railway stuff they elected to go after electrical mostly, using the bed covers as swag bags... Anyway, when the Dorset police finally showed up the nice young policeman told me that they had an idea who had burgled me but they didn't want to catch them. when I challenged this I was told that they are drug addicts and if caught we will have pay for them to go through rehab whereas leaving them at large they would probably overdose in a few weeks or so and would save the state some money. I'm sure this isn't official police policy...? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
totonlover Posted February 4, 2015 Share Posted February 4, 2015 It often worries me where these people get rid of the items they steal? £120 of solder is'nt simply nicking a bit to save someone "having to buy it", thats theft to sell on in a grand scale to "sell it on", keep your eyes and ears open. Lets make it difficult to dispose of these items into saleable items. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
totonlover Posted February 4, 2015 Share Posted February 4, 2015 Solder from C&L as mentioned in post #1 sorry picked this thread up from a bit further down the list and missed it, but appears there was a loco too? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave47549 Posted February 4, 2015 Share Posted February 4, 2015 . Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ceptic Posted February 4, 2015 Share Posted February 4, 2015 When i used to live in Dorset I suffered the indignity of a breakin. Fortunately despite finding my model railway stuff they elected to go after electrical mostly, using the bed covers as swag bags... Anyway, when the Dorset police finally showed up the nice young policeman told me that they had an idea who had burgled me but they didn't want to catch them. when I challenged this I was told that they are drug addicts and if caught we will have pay for them to go through rehab whereas leaving them at large they would probably overdose in a few weeks or so and would save the state some money. I'm sure this isn't official police policy...? Without going into details, I concur. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
10000 Posted February 4, 2015 Share Posted February 4, 2015 I think Widnes Model Centre's idea of a Stolen section is a good one. It would be easier to check rather than to remember it was in ?. We could also use it to pass on information to retailers and people we know who are not members of this forum. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold TheSignalEngineer Posted February 4, 2015 RMweb Gold Share Posted February 4, 2015 When i used to live in Dorset I suffered the indignity of a breakin. Fortunately despite finding my model railway stuff they elected to go after electrical mostly, using the bed covers as swag bags... Anyway, when the Dorset police finally showed up the nice young policeman told me that they had an idea who had burgled me but they didn't want to catch them. when I challenged this I was told that they are drug addicts and if caught we will have pay for them to go through rehab whereas leaving them at large they would probably overdose in a few weeks or so and would save the state some money. I'm sure this isn't official police policy...? Been there, seen that, with the local car thief who exceeded take-off speed just as he entered a tree-lined bend. Neighbourhood car crime reduced by 75% in one night. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
pete_mcfarlane Posted February 4, 2015 Share Posted February 4, 2015 Anyway, when the Dorset police finally showed up the nice young policeman told me that they had an idea who had burgled me but they didn't want to catch them. when I challenged this I was told that they are drug addicts and if caught we will have pay for them to go through rehab whereas leaving them at large they would probably overdose in a few weeks or so and would save the state some money. I'm sure this isn't official police policy...? I think it's called Eugenics...... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Horsetan Posted February 4, 2015 Share Posted February 4, 2015 I think it's called Eugenics...... I think they had a hit with "Sweet Dreams Are Made Of This". Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Norm81 Posted February 4, 2015 Share Posted February 4, 2015 I think they had a hit with "Sweet Dreams Are Made Of This".I thought it was "Sweet Dreams Are Made Of Cheese"... Back on topic I guess some of us are more honest than others, I regularly get shared posts on facebook of stolen cars and there's been at least one example of sharing using social media leading to recovery of a car so I think a section mightn't be a bad idea. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kenton Posted February 4, 2015 Share Posted February 4, 2015 The only problem with a special topic/section is that it will inevitably get cluttered with general comments most of which are not relevant or useful - just like this topic has been Though perhaps the solution to that problem is Kenton should be asked to get sent overseas more often. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
totonlover Posted February 5, 2015 Share Posted February 5, 2015 Been there, seen that, with the local car thief who exceeded take-off speed just as he entered a tree-lined bend. Neighbourhood car crime reduced by 75% in one night. karma Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kenton Posted February 5, 2015 Share Posted February 5, 2015 just elected not to pay as he walked out with his beer and cigs...... Alzheimers is sadly an illness many of us will encounter in later life. It might not be the excuse (explanation) in that case, but is something that needs consideration. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
10000 Posted February 5, 2015 Share Posted February 5, 2015 The only problem with a special topic/section is that it will inevitably get cluttered with general comments most of which are not relevant or useful - just like this topic has been Though perhaps the solution to that problem is Kenton should be asked to get sent overseas more often. Yes it may get general comments, but if given a relevant title and details of the stolen goods in the first post then there is no need to read on if you don't wish to. Or could the 'mods' come up with some way of controlling it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kenton Posted February 5, 2015 Share Posted February 5, 2015 Or could the 'mods' come up with some way of controlling it. More work! They will really appreciate that Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Horsetan Posted February 5, 2015 Share Posted February 5, 2015 The only problem with a special topic/section is that it will inevitably get cluttered with general comments most of which are not relevant or useful - just like this topic has been Though perhaps the solution to that problem is Kenton should be asked to get sent overseas more often. I'm sure that could be arranged..... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crosland Posted February 5, 2015 Share Posted February 5, 2015 Like what has been said before on this site, EBay has caused the rise in specialist item thefts. Really? Do you have any evidence for that? Andrew [What's happened to the disagree button?] Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
DavidH Posted February 5, 2015 Share Posted February 5, 2015 Really? Do you have any evidence for that? Andrew [What's happened to the disagree button?] Well there's a gap that apparently means "hit by mistake" ... honestly, I didn't see you - you should have ducked. I'd just seen that picture of Ian Duncan Smith and ... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kenton Posted February 5, 2015 Share Posted February 5, 2015 [What's happened to the disagree button?] It apparently disagreed with someone. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
IWCR Posted February 5, 2015 Share Posted February 5, 2015 Having identified some stolen goods from a local preserved railway being sold on Ebay I found how difficult it is to get anything done. Ebay wont talk to you unless you are a Police Officer. The police were notified and got the relevant address, they then visited and recovered several as yet unsold items. The individual (a well known local thief) claimed he bought them of someone else whom he refused to name. The CPS deemed insufficent evidence for a prosecution!. Result was all items already sold on Ebay were lost and the thief kept the money he had made. Only the recovered items were returned to the railway and this was only because the thief didnt insist they were returned to him. The police in this case did what they could and took the opportunity to give his house a good going over but it was the failure of the CPS to proceed which stopped everything. Pete Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold gwrrob Posted February 5, 2015 RMweb Gold Share Posted February 5, 2015 And they wonder why some people take the law into their own hands.This country winds me up sometimes with red tape bo***cks. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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