railroadbill Posted September 4, 2016 Share Posted September 4, 2016 I'm sure you all know that if it was possible the crew would stop at a water crane and stick the bag in any convenient orifice in the casing. However I'm sure it was a bit disconcerting sailing along at a rate of knots (see the connection I did there?) with the loco actually on fire. Phil In Mendips Engineman by P W Smith he talks about this actually happening on the SDJR with a West Country pacific,(34040) and having to keep going while finding a convenient place to stop. The loco ended up being covered in foam after the fire brigade had finished with it. His story concludes with the guard informing an elderly lady that the delay was caused by a fire in the engine and being told that "an engine always has a fire in it". 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MGR Hooper! Posted September 5, 2016 Share Posted September 5, 2016 Interesting topic name though... "Facebook leak". I'm pretty sure it wasn't a leak as Hornby intentionally posted 2 or more pictures for people to guess (wasn't leaked in any way was it?) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Hilux5972 Posted September 5, 2016 RMweb Premium Share Posted September 5, 2016 The A3 does utilise an extension T-type bar for its front bogie, as do 99% of the new 4-6-0/4-6-2 locos I have. The new king also features this. However it is fixed in a channel about 8-10mm long and as such only has the bogie moving. Most likely this will be the arrangement on the new Merchant Navy Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold MikeParkin65 Posted September 5, 2016 RMweb Gold Share Posted September 5, 2016 The bar appears to be made of unpainted brass with visible file marks so I'm guessing the model featured represents a work-in-progress rather than the final iteration. I'd expect that to incorporate the T-shaped mount as used on the Rebuilt WC, S15 etc. John Fingers crossed. I have absolutely no justification for one of these in my post 1960 NE\LMR themed collection but its looking like a definite 'rule 1' purchase at the moment Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robin Brasher Posted September 5, 2016 Share Posted September 5, 2016 I have no justification in buying an airsmoothed Merchant Navy as a severe weight restriction on the Swanage Branch that I am modelling meant that the Merchant Navy class was not allowed on the line. This is not going to prevent me from buying one. I already have rakes of suitable coaches and it does not look out of place on my N gauge layout or in the Purbeck Model Railway Group's 0 gauge layout which are both based on the Swanage Railway. I would advise anyone to be very selective in buying locomotives and rolling stock outside your chosen location or you could end up like me with a collection that has got completely out of hand and is going to be extremely difficult to dispose of. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Ian Hargrave Posted September 5, 2016 RMweb Gold Share Posted September 5, 2016 I have no justification in buying an airsmoothed Merchant Navy as a severe weight restriction on the Swanage Branch that I am modelling meant that the Merchant Navy class was not allowed on the line. This is not going to prevent me from buying one. I already have rakes of suitable coaches and it does not look out of place on my N gauge layout or in the Purbeck Model Railway Group's 0 gauge layout which are both based on the Swanage Railway. I would advise anyone to be very selective in buying locomotives and rolling stock outside your chosen location or you could end up like me with a collection that has got completely out of hand and is going to be extremely difficult to dispose of. [/quote Meanwhile,just enjoy it. 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hroth Posted September 5, 2016 Share Posted September 5, 2016 In Mendips Engineman by P W Smith he talks about this actually happening on the SDJR with a West Country pacific,(34040) and having to keep going while finding a convenient place to stop. The loco ended up being covered in foam after the fire brigade had finished with it. His story concludes with the guard informing an elderly lady that the delay was caused by a fire in the engine and being told that "an engine always has a fire in it". Probably Mrs Trellis (of North Wales) on her holidays! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
railroadbill Posted September 6, 2016 Share Posted September 6, 2016 Probably Mrs Trellis (of North Wales) on her holidays! On her way from Mornington Crescent, obviously. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ed 66 plant Posted September 12, 2016 Share Posted September 12, 2016 Hello gentlemen, Have updated/ condensed my Original style M.N spreadsheet as a means of best selecting a loco.from the first Hornby offers for my era . (1956-58) My first purchase therefore will be 35028 renumbered/renamed to 35030--this will run alongside the rebuilt 3501ORIGINAL MERCHANT NAVY LOCO DATA.xlsx8/35020. I have simply trawled through various books and data from numerous sources etc. to compile a single A4 spreadsheet for easy reference. I hope it may be of use to others. regards, Ed 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Dunsignalling Posted September 12, 2016 RMweb Gold Share Posted September 12, 2016 (edited) Hello gentlemen, Have updated/ condensed my Original style M.N spreadsheet as a means of best selecting a loco.from the first Hornby offers for my era . (1956-58) My first purchase therefore will be 35028 renumbered/renamed to 35030--this will run alongside the rebuilt 3501ORIGINAL MERCHANT NAVY LOCO DATA.xlsx8/35020. I have simply trawled through various books and data from numerous sources etc. to compile a single A4 spreadsheet for easy reference. I hope it may be of use to others. regards, Ed Thanks, just one small correction, there have been photos/links posted on here that show 35011 with cut-down tender and 2nd emblem prior to rebuilding - most likely applied when the tender was modified. John EDIT: See Post #482 of this thread Edited September 12, 2016 by Dunsignalling Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ed 66 plant Posted September 12, 2016 Share Posted September 12, 2016 Thanks John--I think you are correct when you say that the new emblem would be applied when the tender went in to works for the cut down modification. regards, Ed Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr chapman Posted October 7, 2016 Share Posted October 7, 2016 The more I see images of Chanel Packet the more I want one. Its FAR too large for my layout but I might have a bigger one in the future. Perhaps it could live in its box..? Jesus... When did I become that guy? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bert Cheese Posted October 8, 2016 Share Posted October 8, 2016 The attention to detail looks promising when viewing the Hornby update...I notice a representation of the seldom seen Detroit displacement lubricator in one pic. Will 21C1 feature the short lived drivers bucket seat I wonder? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
dana Posted October 8, 2016 Share Posted October 8, 2016 The minimum radius for this loco ? want to get one . Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
No Decorum Posted October 8, 2016 Share Posted October 8, 2016 Probably the usual 2nd. radius. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
GreenGiraffe22 Posted November 7, 2016 Share Posted November 7, 2016 Just a quick question, it may have been covered in this thread but this is probably quicker than scrolling through 28 pages, I was trying to find the answer on websites but the information I read was very specific, My layout is set in 1943, I was just wondering which of the two Southern ones is most appropriate for that year, I can See Channel Packet went black in '44 and Royal Mail in May '43 so that's not an issue, I'm more concerned with the number and lettering, information I've read on multiple sites says "Early members of the class had cast-iron numberplates and gilt 'Southern' plates on the tender, but these were subsequently replaced by transfers" but what time frame is "subsequently" ? later that year or several years later?Thanks Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JSpencer Posted November 7, 2016 Share Posted November 7, 2016 Channel Packet is literally in the first few months of its life. Royal Mail is somewhat better suited to 1943. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
GreenGiraffe22 Posted November 7, 2016 Share Posted November 7, 2016 (edited) Channel Packet is literally in the first few months of its life. Royal Mail is somewhat better suited to 1943. Cheers! website history of Locos always seems to brush over the 40s with very little details as if nothing significant was happening Edited November 7, 2016 by GreenGiraffe22 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gilwell Park Posted November 7, 2016 Share Posted November 7, 2016 Cheers! website history of Locos always seems to brush over the 40s with very little details as if nothing significant was happening Hi. According to the RCTS book Channel Packet lost its cast number and Southern plates in October 1949, Union Castle in January 1950. Roger 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold toboldlygo Posted November 7, 2016 RMweb Gold Share Posted November 7, 2016 Hi. According to the RCTS book Channel Packet lost its cast number and Southern plates in October 1949, Union Castle in January 1950. Roger Both during works visits for repaint and renumbering 9/9 to 21/10/49 (Channel Packet) and 7/11/49 to 7/1/50 (Union Castle), both went from Malachite Green to BR Blue Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Dunsignalling Posted November 7, 2016 RMweb Gold Share Posted November 7, 2016 Cheers! website history of Locos always seems to brush over the 40s with very little details as if nothing significant was happening The problem with modelling the Merchant Navy Class during WW2 is more a case of there being too much happening, far too frequently. John Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Hilux5972 Posted November 7, 2016 RMweb Premium Share Posted November 7, 2016 The problem with modelling the Merchant Navy Class during WW2 is more a case of there being too much happening, far too frequently. John Probably the reason Hornby have waited so long to do it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
GreenGiraffe22 Posted November 7, 2016 Share Posted November 7, 2016 (edited) So Royal Mail is the one to go for? Edit: Unless I wait for a Sunshine one, there is already loads Southern bits and pieces that are going to take a chunk out of my wallet next year, it might be worth waiting. Edited November 7, 2016 by GreenGiraffe22 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Dunsignalling Posted November 7, 2016 RMweb Gold Share Posted November 7, 2016 Probably the reason Hornby have waited so long to do it. Loco picking gets a lot easier after nationalization as a lot of the features that had been regularly messed about with in the early years had settled down by then. John Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Black 5 Bear Posted November 7, 2016 Share Posted November 7, 2016 I know it cuts down choice of MN variant, but a late crest with cut down tender would be nice for Hornby's 2017 range. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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