gardenwall Posted November 4, 2016 Share Posted November 4, 2016 They flush onto the track, got the picture!!! That cuts out a few possibilities then Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
wombatofludham Posted November 4, 2016 Share Posted November 4, 2016 Apropos toilets emptying onto the track - would you believe the ORR has a "position" paper on the - erm - business? I wonder if the position is "squat"? It even refers to a Scottish Parliament "Early Day Motion". I kid you not.http://orr.gov.uk/__data/assets/pdf_file/0015/20832/effluent-position-statement-2016-02-09.pdf 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
srihaggis Posted November 4, 2016 Share Posted November 4, 2016 (edited) What a topic this has turned into! If my memory of retention tanks are correct this only means the 1xx fits the bill of: 142, 143, 144, 150, 155, 156, 158. 159's have retention tanks, unsure if from new or later. Edit: Removed 153 from list as single unit. Edited November 4, 2016 by srihaggis Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
wombatofludham Posted November 4, 2016 Share Posted November 4, 2016 (edited) That cuts out a few possibilities then I think all units up to the Class 158 still deposit waste on the tracks although some 158s are being retro-fitted with tanks. Given we know Bachmann are slowly re-doing their 158 at the speed of an arthritic slug taking a lift down the mountain on a glacier, and we already have recent models of the 150 and 153, it's looking more like a 155 or 156. Or a twin unit red herring. (edit) just beat me to it... Edited November 4, 2016 by wombatofludham 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium newbryford Posted November 4, 2016 RMweb Premium Share Posted November 4, 2016 . Or a twin unit red herring. What class number is that then? Cheers, Mick Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigP Posted November 4, 2016 Share Posted November 4, 2016 (edited) -- Edited January 31, 2021 by bigP Deleted Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gardenwall Posted November 5, 2016 Share Posted November 5, 2016 Cool. Hope the DCC version comes with 'smell' generators too. Paul It seems those have to go on(in) the track - going to be a small coordination problem getting the delay after the passing of the train correct for the initial 'waft'. The 'afterglow' should be much more easily simulated. Modified Glade smell thingies perhaps. For those wishing to detail the track some research is going to be required - turds hitting the track at train speeds are dispersed, but if memory from my limited track walking experiences serves, the paper does survive longer but it probably depends on the sort of paper supplied - izal or soft. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
cal.n Posted November 5, 2016 Share Posted November 5, 2016 If it is a Northern unit, which livery? smooth curves angular curves serco-abellio branding removed arriva - 'we are northern' branding new 'arriva northern' - (on a 156 yet?) or countless other promotional liveries (Settle-Carlisle, York, Leeds......) Can't wait for Warley...... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium newbryford Posted November 5, 2016 RMweb Premium Share Posted November 5, 2016 If it is a Northern unit, which livery? smooth curves angular curves serco-abellio branding removed arriva - 'we are northern' branding new 'arriva northern' - (on a 156 yet?) or countless other promotional liveries (Settle-Carlisle, York, Leeds......) Can't wait for Warley...... 156472 is running around in the "We are Northern/We are Fearless" s per a few 158's. (158752 is in the new northern livery with "n" logos) 472 was up our way a few weeks ago. Cheers, Mick Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
charliepetty Posted November 6, 2016 Author Share Posted November 6, 2016 We are fearless, saw that today on a day out. On a 158!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! In York. Charlie Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
charliepetty Posted November 6, 2016 Author Share Posted November 6, 2016 Oh no, note a REALTRACK facebook page too! Too much information!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wild Boar Fell Posted November 6, 2016 Share Posted November 6, 2016 What a topic this has turned into! If my memory of retention tanks are correct this only means the 1xx fits the bill of: 142, 143, 144, 150, 155, 156, 158. 159's have retention tanks, unsure if from new or later. Edit: Removed 153 from list as single unit. My understanding is there are some 156s running around with retention toilets (possibly also 153s as well), not sure about the rest though. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
37038 Posted November 6, 2016 Share Posted November 6, 2016 (edited) My understanding is there are some 156s running around with retention toilets (possibly also 153s as well), not sure about the rest though. Semi-permanently blocked up doesn't count as retention! (Or maybe that's just Northern units!) Edited November 6, 2016 by 37038 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
charliepetty Posted November 6, 2016 Author Share Posted November 6, 2016 This subject is going down the pan!!! 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium newbryford Posted November 6, 2016 RMweb Premium Share Posted November 6, 2016 This subject is going down the pan!!! You're doing a 317 then..........? Cheers, Mick Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
srihaggis Posted November 6, 2016 Share Posted November 6, 2016 My understanding is there are some 156s running around with retention toilets (possibly also 153s as well), not sure about the rest though. Just asked someone in the industry who is familiar with 156s and apparently Aglia and ScotRail currently have retention tanks or are in process of being fitted. Other TOC's to follow. Also just dawned on me I can't include them pacers in my assumed list as they don't have bogies! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
pendlerail Posted November 7, 2016 Share Posted November 7, 2016 (edited) I am pretty sure that refurbished Northern 156s will have to be fitted as well Edited November 7, 2016 by pendlerail Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold big jim Posted November 7, 2016 RMweb Gold Share Posted November 7, 2016 They flush onto the track, got the picture!!! That's where TPWS gets its name from, "Toilet Paper With S***" Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
martin_l_jones Posted November 7, 2016 Share Posted November 7, 2016 I am pretty sure that refurbished Northern 156s will have to be fitted as well They are currently being made in Brum, they are massive.... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MRDBLUE17 Posted November 7, 2016 Share Posted November 7, 2016 This subject is going down the pan!!! And we keep getting told Electrics don't sell! 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
lyneux Posted November 8, 2016 Share Posted November 8, 2016 (edited) High Specification underfloor detailing. ... Hahahahaha... like it! I assume that is in comparison to a certain other model? I'll have 2 please. Guy Edited November 8, 2016 by lyneux Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest eddie reffin Posted November 9, 2016 Share Posted November 9, 2016 All Scotrail 158s have toilet tanks fitted. The 156 fleet is currently being done at a rate of one per week at Springburn. There was a photo on the Scotrail Yammer group of the location of the 156 tank. It sits between the air cylinders at no1 end of the coach with the loo. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
wombatofludham Posted November 9, 2016 Share Posted November 9, 2016 So it appears the opportunities for lineside turdspotting and permanent way tomato growing are reducing by the day then. I always remember walking the Dawlish sea wall back in the 90s as a 125 was approaching, with a tell-tale aerosol cloud emitting from beneath one of the Mk3s. Fortunately it stopped before it reached me, as I didn't fancy having a 70mph lump of something hit me in the eye. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
shunny Posted November 9, 2016 Share Posted November 9, 2016 All Scotrail 158s have toilet tanks fitted. The 156 fleet is currently being done at a rate of one per week at Springburn. There was a photo on the Scotrail Yammer group of the location of the 156 tank. It sits between the air cylinders at no1 end of the coach with the loo. In that case the sound version better have the correct flush recording we wouldn't want a stink if the unit has flush onto to the track recording but has been converted to retention tanks! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
charliepetty Posted November 10, 2016 Author Share Posted November 10, 2016 In that case the sound version better have the correct flush recording we wouldn't want a stink if the unit has flush onto to the track recording but has been converted to retention tanks! We have the recording of the 'Full Flush' near Derby!!! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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