RMweb Premium St Enodoc Posted February 11, 2016 RMweb Premium Share Posted February 11, 2016 Now then...excuse my ignorance about carriage Diagram Numbers, but am I right in saying that the Diag. E147 is different to the B-Set coaches from Airfix (etc). Did the Airfix type get normal buffers both ends for "Loose" use? I am assuming no to that one! Just a thought! What follows is from memory as I'm at work and can't check my books, but as far as I recall the Airfix/Dapol/Hornby model represents diagram E140 (diagram E145 was similar but with 9 ft plate bogies not 7 ft). As far as I know, E140/E145s only ever ran as B-Set pairs and not as individual or "loose" vehicles. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold farren Posted February 15, 2016 RMweb Gold Share Posted February 15, 2016 Sorry Coachman is it my PC screen or dose the red paint look a bit thin at the bottom of the coach from the middle running towards the end closest to the camera. Looks a bit pink compared to the rest of the coach. Not meant to be critical of your workmanship. misread that post. I see you said you are going to change the sides. In my defence it was late and I'm sticking to it. Is there a way to remove the static from a plastic model. Ps you didn't have to take your last post of coach! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
coachmann Posted February 15, 2016 Author Share Posted February 15, 2016 Sorry Coachman is it my PC screen or dose the red paint look a bit thin at the bottom of the coach from the middle running towards the end closest to the camera. Looks a bit pink compared to the rest of the coach. Not meant to be critical of your workmanship. misread that post. I see you said you are going to change the sides. In my defence it was late and I'm sticking to it. Is there a way to remove the static from a plastic model. Ps you didn't have to take your last post of coach! My diorama sits on a white garden table and this reflects white light upwards onto the coach's tumble home.....This effect can be seen on the close-up view of the B-set in the post above. Sometimes the garden fence sends a brownish colour cast onto models when the sun is setting. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Allegheny1600 Posted February 18, 2016 Share Posted February 18, 2016 She really is a beauty Larry! You've made the most delightful, subtle enhancements that now make her stand out in the crowd. Ooooh, Matron! Cheers, John. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ruffnut Thorston Posted February 19, 2016 Share Posted February 19, 2016 I seem to remember Mr. Jenkinson had what he called his "Funny Trains", that he ran because they meant something to him....even if they were not "right" for the current layout... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
coachmann Posted February 19, 2016 Author Share Posted February 19, 2016 I seem to remember Mr. Jenkinson had what he called his "Funny Trains", that he ran because they meant something to him....even if they were not "right" for the current layout... He did indeed and useful at times. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Gerbil-Fritters Posted February 21, 2016 Share Posted February 21, 2016 Time for some track laying Larry, personally I can't wait! This is possibly a bit large, but a renamed Windermere looks pleasant. A Jenks favourite I think. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Chimer Posted February 22, 2016 RMweb Premium Share Posted February 22, 2016 Ellesmere North will be quietly dropped. And here's me still mourning Greenfield!! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
runs as required Posted February 22, 2016 Share Posted February 22, 2016 Building an LMS corridor set for an Aberystwyth-Manchester express starting with the brake third..... I can't remeber such an 'express'. My recollection of Manchester Exchange to Barmouth was of a pleasant trundle - often as not with a particularly long hot stop in the sun at... wait for it... Oswestry! dh Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold TheSignalEngineer Posted February 22, 2016 RMweb Gold Share Posted February 22, 2016 I can't remeber such an 'express'. My recollection of Manchester Exchange to Barmouth was of a pleasant trundle - often as not with a particularly long hot stop in the sun at... wait for it... Oswestry! dh The author of the book probably meant limited stop. The nearest it probably got to being an 'Express' was the lamp at each end of the front bufferbeam. The 1959 Summer timetable (see http://www.michaelclemensrailways.co.uk/?atk=554 ) shows a Manchester London Road to Aberystwyth train which averaged 36 MPH non-stop from Oswestry to Welshpool. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
runs as required Posted February 22, 2016 Share Posted February 22, 2016 The nearest it probably got to being an 'Express' was the lamp at each end of the front bufferbeam. The 1959 Summer timetable (see http://www.michaelclemensrailways.co.uk/?atk=554 ) shows a Manchester London Road to Aberystwyth train which averaged 36 MPH non-stop from Oswestry to Welshpool. So from London Road, would that be via Crewe and Whitchurch? Incidentally March Backtrack has an article on the LNW backed Cambrian opening: Oswestry to Ellesmere and Whitchurch (and the other projects that didn't make it). dh Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium St Enodoc Posted February 23, 2016 RMweb Premium Share Posted February 23, 2016 So from London Road, would that be via Crewe and Whitchurch? From my recollection of a friend's model of Whitchurch that is run to the 1950 WTT, yes. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ruffnut Thorston Posted February 24, 2016 Share Posted February 24, 2016 So from London Road, would that be via Crewe and Whitchurch? Incidentally March Backtrack has an article on the LNW backed Cambrian opening: Oswestry to Ellesmere and Whitchurch (and the other projects that didn't make it). dh I bought the mag today, on my way to the opticians (I'll see you when I get back? ). This is part 2 of a short series on Oswestry. It looks very interesting at a glance. The map is full of possibilities! Now all I need is a copy of the first part! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
robday12 Posted February 24, 2016 Share Posted February 24, 2016 Beautiful models. Rob. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Rowsley17D Posted February 25, 2016 RMweb Gold Share Posted February 25, 2016 Just need somewhere to run them now, Coach. The weather's getting better. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
edcayton Posted February 25, 2016 Share Posted February 25, 2016 so this was built this evening. WEB MR D1283 Bk Compo 1.jpg !!! Ed Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BobM Posted February 26, 2016 Share Posted February 26, 2016 Time for some track laying Larry, personally I can't wait! This is possibly a bit large, but a renamed Windermere looks pleasant. Oswestry General 1957.jpg A Jenks favourite I think. Forgive my ignorance but is that a capstan turntable for wagons alongside platform one, and would that be the goods platform alongside it? Cheers Bob Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
salop89a Posted February 27, 2016 Share Posted February 27, 2016 Ellesmere North will be quietly dropped. Work on the layout actually ceased on 14th October 2015 (post # 1279) and I have been looking at Oswestry since then. A typical train for working in from the Llanfyllin Branch.... WEB GWR suburbans 1.jpg RTR suburbans for the LNER, LMS and SR but one still has to build for the GWR. Comet etched sides.... WEB GWR suburbans 3.jpg I have just come across a colour film from 1965 on the bfi player on the British Film Institute site of a journey from Llanfyllin to Oswestry. Interesting viewing including locos on the turntable at Oswestry. The link is http://player.bfi.org.uk/?gclid=COr8pr_Dl8sCFUWNGwod9lAErw and then search 'Railways' Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Jason T Posted February 27, 2016 RMweb Premium Share Posted February 27, 2016 Hi Bob. For Oswestry General, read Windermere as that is what the track plan is for. It is a wagon turntable and goods platform / shed. Not sure of the relevance here but Windermere was gravity shunted for both passenger and freight by backing up the branch, holding the train on the brakes, running the loco off and then allowing gravity to do the rest. Hence why there is no obvious run-round or station pilot facilities; there was neither. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Barry O Posted February 27, 2016 RMweb Premium Share Posted February 27, 2016 Hi Bob. For Oswestry General, read Windermere as that is what the track plan is for. It is a wagon turntable and goods platform / shed. Not sure of the relevance here but Windermere was gravity shunted for both passenger and freight by backing up the branch, holding the train on the brakes, running the loco off and then allowing gravity to do the rest. Hence why there is no obvious run-round or station pilot facilities; there was neither. and come complete with the Elterwater Gunpowder unloading dock right next door to where they used to drop the fires of locos! Nicktoix built a OO model of Windermere many years ago. Great track layout! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ruffnut Thorston Posted February 29, 2016 Share Posted February 29, 2016 National Library Of Scotland Maps again...Oswestry OS 6-inch 1842 -1952... http://maps.nls.uk/geo/explore/#zoom=17&lat=52.8621&lon=-3.0497&layers=6 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
coachmann Posted February 29, 2016 Author Share Posted February 29, 2016 Thank you Sarah again. Only the station and some of the sidings can be built in the space at my disposal, so that rules out the Works and loco shed. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ruffnut Thorston Posted February 29, 2016 Share Posted February 29, 2016 The works and Loco Shed will have to be "Off Stage".... A good reason for Light Engine movements.... Looking at the Backtrack article (part 2) it shows that the GWR and (what was to become the) Cambrian Railways both came to Oswestry before the link to Whitchurch was built. So, if the GWR branch from Gobowen came first, the Cambrian could simply have a joint station at Oswestry, later re-modelled to cope with the Whitchurch Line, and the Works. So "Oswestry General" would have started out as a Joint Station, as Chester General was, but later, after grouping (in this case 1922 CR and GWR I think...) all GWR. Of course, Chester also had CLC "Chester Northgate" and CLC "Liverpool Road Chester" Stations.... There was also a GWR plan for a line to Ellesmere, and, probably later, two "chords" linking the GWR main line to the Oswestry - Ellesmere line on the Backtrack map, amongst other interesting "not built" lines. (It is a basic diagramatical map, but still of interest!). Note.... The January 2016 Backtrack contains Part One of the Oswestry feature.... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
runs as required Posted February 29, 2016 Share Posted February 29, 2016 I hid away upstairs this afternoon to enjoy that old film of the LLanfyllin branch. I always enjoyed riding those Welsh branch lines as they twisted into the mountains. My one regret is never to have taken the time to travel from Oswestry via Three Cocks Junction to Brecon - I could so easily have done it. dh Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gismorail Posted March 1, 2016 Share Posted March 1, 2016 Hi coach Just a reminder that the Ellesmere layout is at Rainhill Show this coming weekend t?hought I would wander over on Saturday was impressed with what I saw on your thread earlier. Are you intending to go over the weekend Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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