Guest Q663368 Posted November 20, 2016 Share Posted November 20, 2016 D806 Dragon image.jpg This one will require the most work and a complete repaint. Front end filed and smoothed, new discs and reporting number panels, replacement side grills and the lower doors on the skirts. Just started reading this thread. Nice pic. Can anyone enlighten me on the actual train, not the consist please. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
steve fay Posted November 20, 2016 Author Share Posted November 20, 2016 Loco hauled replacement for the Bristol Pullman, The blue Pullman set must have failed Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
two tone green Posted November 20, 2016 Share Posted November 20, 2016 All my Heljan locos including Western, 40, Brush 4's and others go around my 40 in curves. I have the new 25 which has a similar arrangement as the Warship so it should work. I do have a Warship but it's still in DC mode so it's not made it onto the layout yet. Awaiting decoder. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andrew P Posted November 20, 2016 Share Posted November 20, 2016 All my Heljan locos including Western, 40, Brush 4's and others go around my 40 in curves. I have the new 25 which has a similar arrangement as the Warship so it should work. I do have a Warship but it's still in DC mode so it's not made it onto the layout yet. Awaiting decoder. WOW, Thanks very much for that, It gives me some more good options for the Layout. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
F-UnitMad Posted November 20, 2016 Share Posted November 20, 2016 WOW, Thanks very much for that, It gives me some more good options for the Layout.Just a word of caution... "get round tight curves" is not the same as "pull stock round tight curves". My HJ Hymek could get round old Lima O Setrack points - a tad over 2ft radius!! But don't expect it to pull anything behind it on that radius - at least, not on the rails, in the accepted manner. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andrew P Posted November 20, 2016 Share Posted November 20, 2016 Just a word of caution... "get round tight curves" is not the same as "pull stock round tight curves". My HJ Hymek could get round old Lima O Setrack points - a tad over 2ft radius!! But don't expect it to pull anything behind it on that radius - at least, not on the rails, in the accepted manner. Thanks for that, I was thinking Lima (for starters) Coaches, but I've just been out and with some bits of timber 16'' long to represent the coaches and the over hang is not the best, so back to Plan A. just a Goods Yard. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
CME and Bottlewasher Posted November 21, 2016 Share Posted November 21, 2016 (edited) All my Heljan locos including Western, 40, Brush 4's and others go around my 40 in curves. I have the new 25 which has a similar arrangement as the Warship so it should work. I do have a Warship but it's still in DC mode so it's not made it onto the layout yet. Awaiting decoder. A word of caution and wisdom to the wise, running light engine isnt the same as running trains etc.....please see below... Just a word of caution... "get round tight curves" is not the same as "pull stock round tight curves". My HJ Hymek could get round old Lima O Setrack points - a tad over 2ft radius!! But don't expect it to pull anything behind it on that radius - at least, not on the rails, in the accepted manner. Agreed Jordan, there are a lot of other considerations too, such as buffer-lock etc. etc. I understand that Paul A. Lunn holds clinics and consultations for such issues and thus for Andy getting in touch with Paul may get the best value out of the space, it maybe worth employing Paul to scope out a track/layout plan (I am not sure what he charges but it may well provide a VFM approach before committing to a particular scheme). . IIRC Paul helped a 7mm modeller with limited space and a Black 5 to be able to run the Black 5, ie IIRC moving between Loco Shed and coaling, whilst the rest of the layout was for playing with shorter trains and locos - it was, of course a compromise, but cleverly done. ATVB CME Edited November 21, 2016 by CME and Bottlewasher Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andrew P Posted November 21, 2016 Share Posted November 21, 2016 A word of caution and wisdom to the wise, running light engine isnt the same as running trains etc.....please see below... Agreed Jordan, there are a lot of other considerations too, such as buffer-lock etc. etc. I understand that Paul A. Lunn holds clinics and consultations for such issues and thus for Andy getting in touch with Paul may get the best value out of the space, it maybe worth employing Paul to scope out a track/layout plan (I am not sure what he charges but it may well provide a VFM approach before committing to a particular scheme). . IIRC Paul helped a 7mm modeller with limited space and a Black 5 to be able to run the Black 5, ie IIRC moving between Loco Shed and coaling, whilst the rest of the layout was for playing with shorter trains and locos - it was, of course a compromise, but cleverly done. ATVB CME Thanks for that, one of the Guys at the Club is bringing a couple of Heljan Coaches over next week and a 31 to have a look and measure it all out with me. Thanks for the suggestion about Paul though, very good idea if this doesn't work out. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold The Stationmaster Posted November 21, 2016 RMweb Gold Share Posted November 21, 2016 Just started reading this thread. Nice pic. Can anyone enlighten me on the actual train, not the consist please. It was known, rather rudely, as 'the Wells Fargo set' (presumably because of the rather ancient look of the Pullmans?) and it was the official standby set for Pullman failures or when a set was pulled for extra maintenance or shops etc. I've an idea it might even have been referred to as 'the Wells Fargo' in some traffic notices to make sure people understood what was being talked about! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
two tone green Posted November 21, 2016 Share Posted November 21, 2016 I run mine with Mk1's plus various stock both forwards and backwards with no problems. Yes there is over hang but we all dont have space for 6ft radius curves. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
CME and Bottlewasher Posted November 21, 2016 Share Posted November 21, 2016 I run mine with Mk1's plus various stock both forwards and backwards with no problems. Yes there is over hang but we all dont have space for 6ft radius curves. Most dont have the space for 6' curves its true, nice to hear that you can run yours on a restricted radii which defies the conventional wisdom. Various tricks can be employed so as to stop buffer lock etc.. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
two tone green Posted November 21, 2016 Share Posted November 21, 2016 Most dont have the space for 6' curves its true, nice to hear that you can run yours on a restricted radii which defies the conventional wisdom. Various tricks can be employed so as to stop buffer lock etc.. That's right. A lot of people seem hell bent on being so correct & proper they miss the point of all this being a hobby and fun. Rule 1 very much applies and I am well and truly enjoying every minute of it. 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
two tone green Posted November 21, 2016 Share Posted November 21, 2016 Forgot, I have two black 5's as well as a lot of other big kettle type locos including a Brit that all run around the 40 inch curves. I have another Brit on order with Fine Scale Brass and that will add to my fleet nicely. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
steve fay Posted November 21, 2016 Author Share Posted November 21, 2016 3 conversions completed, two back to original builds D806 Cambrian and D 805 Benbow ( still awaiting plates ) Plus North British D845 Sprightly with experimental warning panels 6 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
two tone green Posted November 21, 2016 Share Posted November 21, 2016 They do look good in Green. Never really gave it much thought when I ordered mine and automatically went for a maroon one. In some ways a green SYP would have been nicer. 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andrew P Posted November 21, 2016 Share Posted November 21, 2016 IMG_0388.JPG 3 conversions completed, two back to original builds D806 Cambrian and D 805 Benbow ( still awaiting plates ) Plus North British D845 Sprightly with experimental warning panels Stop tempting me Steve, ahhahah. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
two tone green Posted November 21, 2016 Share Posted November 21, 2016 My Warship and of course my Black 5's Sorry about the blue tint to the tender of the second Black 5, Its the telly !!!! 5 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
steve fay Posted November 21, 2016 Author Share Posted November 21, 2016 I do like the Warships in maroon but it's to late for me as they didn't get that livery until 1965. The turntable at Ranelagh Bridge was removed in September 1964. Benbow isn't mine, she's been done for a friend. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
two tone green Posted November 21, 2016 Share Posted November 21, 2016 Rule 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
CME and Bottlewasher Posted November 21, 2016 Share Posted November 21, 2016 (edited) That's right. A lot of people seem hell bent on being so correct & proper they miss the point of all this being a hobby and fun. Rule 1 very much applies and I am well and truly enjoying every minute of it. Im sure that that GOG didnt come up with a useful set of rules so as to ruin the hobby, or anyone's fun Im sure that they did such so as to avoid folk having problems and thus the ruination of their hobby. In this universe all things are possible and locos can be made to run around some fairly sharp radii, I have found similar to you on DA with the current line extension whereby conventional wisdom dictates the opposite what we are doing.... My Warship and of course my Black 5's IMG_1413 (1024x768).jpg IMG_1804 (1024x768).jpg Sorry about the blue tint to the tender of the second Black 5, Its the telly !!!! Any photos of them on your tight curves etc please Edited November 21, 2016 by CME and Bottlewasher 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Hal Nail Posted November 21, 2016 RMweb Premium Share Posted November 21, 2016 IMG_0388.JPG 3 conversions completed, two back to original builds D806 Cambrian and D 805 Benbow ( still awaiting plates ) Plus North British D845 Sprightly with experimental warning panels How did you do the bits and pieces (I can't think of the right word - "lumps"?!) beneath the reporting numbers on the early front types? Slivers of plasticard sanded down? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
steve fay Posted November 21, 2016 Author Share Posted November 21, 2016 Yes thin plasticard strip cut and shaped to size. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
F-UnitMad Posted November 21, 2016 Share Posted November 21, 2016 I run mine with Mk1's plus various stock both forwards and backwards with no problems. Yes there is over hang but we all dont have space for 6ft radius curves. On 40" radius curves? Must admit I'm impressed; fair play & all that. Of course with my US stuff with buckeye couplers and no buffers to worry about, I run down to 36" easily, with 6-axle locos and 72ft Centerbeam Flats. I even have a section approx 27" radius at it's tightest point, which is admittedly, pushing things to the limit, rather. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BRIAN T Posted November 21, 2016 Share Posted November 21, 2016 IMG_0388.JPG 3 conversions completed, two back to original builds D806 Cambrian and D 805 Benbow ( still awaiting plates ) Plus North British D845 Sprightly with experimental warning panels 845 looks excellent ,nice model Steve Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TEDDYBEAR D9521 Posted April 7, 2017 Share Posted April 7, 2017 (edited) Couple of shots a Heljan Warship number as D810 and weathered still one or jobs left Edited April 9, 2017 by TEDDYBEAR D9521 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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