St. Simon Posted January 4, 2012 Share Posted January 4, 2012 Hi, I saw this on the Model Rail Facebook page, it is yet to be annouced, but DRS have order 15 Bo-Bo diesel locos of the Vossloh Eurolight design: http://www.railcolor...77&action=dview The design is similar to the Class 67 in the looks department and DRS are the first company to order these locos Simon Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold The Stationmaster Posted January 4, 2012 RMweb Gold Share Posted January 4, 2012 It will be interesting to see how they shrink that to fit the UK Loading Gauge (or are DRS, our only state owned rail freight operator, moving into Europe in the same way that European mainland companies have moved into Britain?). Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
St. Simon Posted January 4, 2012 Author Share Posted January 4, 2012 It will be interesting to see how they shrink that to fit the UK Loading Gauge (or are DRS, our only state owned rail freight operator, moving into Europe in the same way that European mainland companies have moved into Britain?). Hi, Mike, I believe that they will be used in the UK. Simon Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Allegheny1600 Posted January 4, 2012 Share Posted January 4, 2012 Ooh! Very interesting! "The Vossloh EuroLight is a new four-axle diesel-electric locomotive with less than 20t weight per axle available with two different engines. The freight version will have a top speed of 120 km/h, the passenger version shall be designed for speeds between 140 km/h and 200 km/h. The diesel engine is either the 12-cylinder Cat C175-12 for 2’300 kW or a 16-cylinder Cat C 175-16 for 2’800 kW, a 3’500 kW version is also planned. Four traction inverters allow individual control of the axle with 1’100 mm wheel diameter. All electric equipment is from ABB. The 2’800 kW version with 4’000-liter fuel tank has a weight of 77,5 t, optionally there will be also a version with a 7’000-liter fuel tank." - Vossloh 2300Kw should equal 3084Hp so even if they go for the smallest engine, it will still be a type 5! For interest; 2800Kw = 3754Hp, 3500Kw = 4693Hp - way above 'Kestrel'!!! Frothing madly! John E. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium newbryford Posted January 4, 2012 RMweb Premium Share Posted January 4, 2012 Quote from June 2011 Modern Railways. Direct Rail Services is looking to be the first UK operator to bring Vossloh locos to the country and is in talks for a deal for 20 Eurolight 4000 series locos. The 3,755hp Bo-Bo locos will use the Caterpiller C175-16 engine. DRS says the design work to make the loco fir the UK loading gauge has been completed and the company is happy with the final results. However, the signing of the deal is dependant on the exchange rate between the pound and the euro becoming more favourable to make the purchase price acceptable. The locos will be RA7, 100mph and fitted with electric train supply and they are seen as ideal not only for the company's recently won "Northern Belle" contract with VSOE but also to allow the company to gain more passenger work. DRS says the locos will "outperform" anything currently in the market. The locos will also work freight when required. Vossloh says the locos, which meet the current emissions regulations, will be able to run 2,000km between refuelling. A classification for the locos has not been decided, but the Class 68 (68001-020) numbers series is vacant - having previously been earmarked for Freightliner's PowerHaul locos. Will this see the end of DRS 47's? Cheers, Mick Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cornish Triang Paul Posted January 4, 2012 Share Posted January 4, 2012 The Euro 2000/4000 range is a direct decendent of the Prima range which the 67 is one of. already in service in various countries from Spain to Norway where Cargonet has replaced their 66s with them. Competitive models are the Eurorunner from Siemens and the most powerful SINGLE engined loco in the world, the hydrualic Voith Maxima. See Youtube and Flikr ! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold griffgriff Posted January 4, 2012 RMweb Gold Share Posted January 4, 2012 Ooh! Very interesting! "The Vossloh EuroLight is a new four-axle diesel-electric locomotive with less than 20t weight per axle available with two different engines. The freight version will have a top speed of 120 km/h, the passenger version shall be designed for speeds between 140 km/h and 200 km/h. The diesel engine is either the 12-cylinder Cat C175-12 for 2’300 kW or a 16-cylinder Cat C 175-16 for 2’800 kW, a 3’500 kW version is also planned. Four traction inverters allow individual control of the axle with 1’100 mm wheel diameter. All electric equipment is from ABB. The 2’800 kW version with 4’000-liter fuel tank has a weight of 77,5 t, optionally there will be also a version with a 7’000-liter fuel tank." - Vossloh 2300Kw should equal 3084Hp so even if they go for the smallest engine, it will still be a type 5! For interest; 2800Kw = 3754Hp, 3500Kw = 4693Hp - way above 'Kestrel'!!! Frothing madly! John E. Power isn't everything (well it might be to a train operator of course) but as an enthusiast it's still pig ugly (perhaps not as ugly as a 'Betty' but still, only it's mother would love it ) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cornish Triang Paul Posted January 4, 2012 Share Posted January 4, 2012 Thought - now the Scottish Parliment and English one have sorted finance for a new Sleeper fleet, maybe we shall get a tag-on order for FSR/FGW ?? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold griffgriff Posted January 4, 2012 RMweb Gold Share Posted January 4, 2012 Thought - now the Scottish Parliment and English one have sorted finance for a new Sleeper fleet, maybe we shall get a tag-on order for FSR/FGW ?? When did they sort it out? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium phil-b259 Posted January 4, 2012 RMweb Premium Share Posted January 4, 2012 When did they sort it out? http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-scotland-politics-16284553 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Supaned Posted January 4, 2012 Share Posted January 4, 2012 Bodyshell wise I thought that this was just a development of the 67 , with a plastic cab roof - in which case it's probably simple enough to modify to fit our loading gauge. Good news , though , as it shows a future for freight in this country , though on the downside, the 37s and 20s must now be on the decline with DRS as a result of this. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wild Boar Fell Posted January 4, 2012 Share Posted January 4, 2012 Sounds impressive, just needs a nickname, should I start the ball rolling with euroskip or skip 2, seeing as they are partially derived from the 67 and look fairly similar. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
royaloak Posted January 4, 2012 Share Posted January 4, 2012 Going by DRSs track record with their early 66s and handing them back early, which leasing company will have the bottle to finance the deal? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
woodenhead Posted January 4, 2012 Share Posted January 4, 2012 As it's RA7 then the 37/4s are safe for a bit longer Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium John M Upton Posted January 4, 2012 RMweb Premium Share Posted January 4, 2012 I wonder if Bachmann have picked up the phone yet and asked 'Would you like a model of that mate?' as per the Class 70's? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete Harvey Posted January 4, 2012 Share Posted January 4, 2012 This will be interesting too see if it get's past the initial planning stage. The engine looks like a 67 with the top of a Voyager cab grafted to on top different. Pete Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AMJ Posted January 4, 2012 Share Posted January 4, 2012 Ah but we have yet to see what the UK styled body will look like. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cornish Triang Paul Posted January 5, 2012 Share Posted January 5, 2012 As i view it on the web, not too much modification is required. Its a "pre-designed" package already in use on the continent. Unlike the Maxima and Eurorunner, nobody does a r-t-r model yet (HO or OO). Like the sound of " EUROSKIP " !! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
rob D2 Posted January 5, 2012 Share Posted January 5, 2012 How much actual passenger work do DRS have ? Seeing as the DBS 67s are still cycling through store with apparantly too little work would it not be easier to approach the lessors about a few of those, DRS always seems to have hundreds of locos doing.......er....... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold mcowgill Posted January 5, 2012 RMweb Gold Share Posted January 5, 2012 I suspect this is more likely to herald the end of the DRS 47s rather than the smaller locos. DRS provide ETH 47s for VSOE Northern Belle, East Anglia Thunderbird (and regularly a pair for DMU replacements for NXEA) and I believe they have recently been in discussions about running a regular passenger service along the Cumbrian Coast for Sellafield workers. The 37s are a 'go anywhere' fleet and probably have a better medium term future. It seems that DRS are running more 47s than they have work for mainly to keep enough of them in service at any one time as they don't have anything else to replace one where ETH is needed. It will be interesting to see if the new locos will be able to work push-pull with Mk3 DVTs in the same way as the 67s now operate as that might offer an opportunity to reduce the number of locos needed. It seems a waste to run a DMU replacement service to Yarmouth in top and tail mode with an otherwise redundant DVT coupled inside to provide the mandatory guards accomodation. Martin Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
black and decker boy Posted January 5, 2012 Share Posted January 5, 2012 Others forums suggest DRS will take most of the 66s off lease when these enter service. The 67s are leased by DBS and cycled through store when on repairs as DBS do with all of their fleet and DBS don't do deals with competitors except at Market rates. DRS must have traffic flows in mind for these locos which will no doubt become clear in due course. Heavy freight is not a key part of their workload so presumably the design is suitable. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Glorious NSE Posted January 5, 2012 Share Posted January 5, 2012 Not sure it's *specifically* for passenger use - Freightliner manages with 4-axle loco's (90s) singly on it's intermodals so maybe that's the thinking. Pretty sure i'd prefer the extra couple of powered axles a 66 gives if you have a long intermodal on a wet and windy night on the Northern fells though. They'll handle half an FNA with ease as well. They do have regular charter work, and they are supposed to be doing a 'workers train' for Sellafield. It's not impossible that they have their eye on some of the passenger contracts that DBS uses their 67s on either... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
nabit Posted January 5, 2012 Share Posted January 5, 2012 DRS doing trial runs of sellafield train now...37423 + 4 ex Anglia mk2,s nick Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clay Country Posted January 5, 2012 Share Posted January 5, 2012 DRS has now confirmed it has ordered 15 locomotives from Vossloh for delivery late 2013: http://www.railjournal.com/newsflash/direct-rail-services-confirms-vossloh-eurolight-order-1447.html Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium newbryford Posted January 5, 2012 RMweb Premium Share Posted January 5, 2012 It's not impossible that they have their eye on some of the passenger contracts that DBS uses their 67s on either... Hmmmmmmm - Scotrail sleepers? Cheers, Mick Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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