Glorious NSE Posted January 8, 2012 Share Posted January 8, 2012 I'd agree we're not likely to see that A1A tech from GE over here, I don't think it's likely to find many fans at NR. BNSF and the other NA roads have the advantage of running their own railway and tailor it for heavy freight, no freight operator over here has that. The only advantage I can see is saving the weight of a traction motor GE and BNSF see a benefit for lighter (and I mean lighter in US terms!) freights such as intermodals, where the standard 4400hp loco doesn't need the extra powered axles most of the time - the weight transfer thing allows it to have nearly the same capability as a 6 axle for starting when it does need that extra grip whilst spreading the load the rest of the time. Definately not a technology for a Bo-Bo though or it'd fall over... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cornish Triang Paul Posted January 9, 2012 Share Posted January 9, 2012 We dont need 125 mph capacity on the GW sleeper. Max speed in Kernow is 85 and thats just the one section between St Erth down to Long Rock. Power and grip for bends and hills is what is needed. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Adam1701D Posted January 9, 2012 RMweb Gold Share Posted January 9, 2012 Here's my take on the Eurolight... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ron Ron Ron Posted January 10, 2012 Share Posted January 10, 2012 Ah ! the Fred Scuggins Haulage - Carlisle livery, as designed by Roy's mate at the sign writers round the back of the Co-Op yard, down near t'canal. Elegance personified, in a Fish & Chip stylee. "Oi ! 'ave we got any of that Blue left over from the leisure centre job?" . Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium John M Upton Posted January 10, 2012 RMweb Premium Share Posted January 10, 2012 I am secretly hoping DRS go for a full livery redsign with the new locos as Freightliner did as personally I really hate the Compass livery, its too brash and particually on 'fussy' locos such as 37's, a complete and utter mess. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ron Ron Ron Posted January 10, 2012 Share Posted January 10, 2012 I see that Europorte (GBRf's parent company) have ordered the big brother Euro 4000. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium newbryford Posted January 10, 2012 RMweb Premium Share Posted January 10, 2012 I see that Europorte (GBRf's parent company) have ordered the big brother Euro 4000. Presumably these are the ones for European use? http://www.vossloh-espana.com/cms/en/press/press_releases/press_release_details_2367.html Cheers, Mick Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Glorious NSE Posted January 10, 2012 Share Posted January 10, 2012 I don't think Vossloh can drop the 4000 to UK size or EMD would have given it a go... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ron Ron Ron Posted January 11, 2012 Share Posted January 11, 2012 I see that Europorte (GBRf's parent company) have ordered the big brother Euro 4000. Presumably these are the ones for European use? http://www.vossloh-e...tails_2367.html Cheers, Mick European use, that's also here isn't it?? But yes you are right, they're for Europorte's mainland operation; but for commonality, if they are looking for any new locos for their British operation (GBRf), I wonder if they'll consider the EUROlight UK ? Mind you, they use a completely different powerplant and traction equipment, so maybe there isn't much that's shared? Europorte Vossloh Euro 4000 Europorte Vossloh Euro 4000 . Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
lmsforever Posted January 11, 2012 Share Posted January 11, 2012 Doesnt look very nice so hope they come up with a new livery ,where have you been Ron Ron havent seen you on the site for a while? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
McGomez Posted January 12, 2012 Share Posted January 12, 2012 Presumably these are the ones for European use? http://www.vossloh-e...tails_2367.html Cheers, Mick Portuguese manufacturer Sud Express are making an HO version. http://www.sudexpressmodels.com/ Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Glorious NSE Posted January 12, 2012 Share Posted January 12, 2012 Mind you, they use a completely different powerplant and traction equipment, so maybe there isn't much that's shared? Mechanically the 4000s are the SD70 series package (16-710 engine, 4000+ HP) from EMD in a monocoque shell, so they would have more in common with 66s than the Eurolights. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clagmeister Posted January 15, 2012 Share Posted January 15, 2012 We have seen footage of these locos lifting 7000ts Very impressive bit of kit. All four ABB traction motors work independently, so in effect its 4 single axle locos. Wheel slip is limited to the single axle and is measured and corrected in miliseconds. Virtually the whole loco is new with only the body shell showing similarities to the 67. Cat/ABB Gen set/ABB traction motors and RA6. Part of the order parameters was, can it restart 4S49 roughly 1,500ts at Scout Green on a wet rail. The answer was a resounding yes! Can't wait to get a go on one. Plus they sound great too! like a thrashy class 60 :-) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
McGomez Posted June 12, 2012 Share Posted June 12, 2012 Presumably these are the ones for European use? http://www.vossloh-e...tails_2367.html Cheers, Mick The first 2 have been taken by lowloader from Valencia to the Port of Barcelona and taken by rail to France recently. Here is a picture of the first loco being reunited with its bogies. http://www.ironwheel...oto.asp?id=1369 http://www.ironwheel...oto.asp?id=1370 http://www.ironwheel...oto.asp?id=1373 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
simon47603 Posted June 12, 2012 Share Posted June 12, 2012 The first 2 have been taken by lowloader from Valencia to the Port of Barcelona and taken by rail to France recently. Here is a picture of the first loco being reunited with its bogies. http://www.ironwheel...oto.asp?id=1369 http://www.ironwheel...oto.asp?id=1370 http://www.ironwheel...oto.asp?id=1373 At last a Loco with STYLE.... Thanks for that ANDY Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
McGomez Posted June 12, 2012 Share Posted June 12, 2012 I must admit, the silver and blue do go well together. Looks like I jumped the gun a bit. 4008 is still in the exchange sidings at Barcelona awaiting the off. Alledgedly at 4 o´clock tomorrow morning. Another photo. And this image from a Spanish forum. http://www.forotrenes.com/foro/viewtopic.php?f=9&t=32885 Here is an image of 4007 taken a couple of weeks ago from Montjuic, overlooking the Port. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
lmsforever Posted June 12, 2012 Share Posted June 12, 2012 Still look like Skips did Alstom have an input? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
250BOB Posted June 12, 2012 Share Posted June 12, 2012 What news is there of the Vossloh locos that DRS have reportedly ordered.?? Bob Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
McGomez Posted June 12, 2012 Share Posted June 12, 2012 No news on that front. Presumably still on course for delivery late 2013? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
250BOB Posted June 12, 2012 Share Posted June 12, 2012 No news on that front. Presumably still on course for delivery late 2013? Thanks Andy,......some way off yet then. Bob Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Revolution Ben Posted June 12, 2012 RMweb Gold Share Posted June 12, 2012 And this image from a Spanish forum. http://www.forotrene...php?f=9&t=32885 What a great looking locomotive. A considerable improvement on the Class 70s! cheers Ben A. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clay Country Posted June 12, 2012 Share Posted June 12, 2012 Still look like Skips did Alstom have an input? Vossloh took over Alstom's plant near Valencia a few years ago, together with the loco designs it produced. The development of the Euro 3000 and 4000 was actually started by Alstom, and while they retain the styling, EMD engines and traction motors, they are in all other respects a completely new design. The Eurolight ordered by DRS has some commonality with the Euro series locos, but is designed to offer low axleload and is fitted with a Caterpillar engine and lightweight alternator. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Ramblin Rich Posted June 12, 2012 RMweb Gold Share Posted June 12, 2012 What a great looking locomotive. A considerable improvement on the Class 70s! cheers Ben A. ...and 6 axles suit the "skip style" body better than 4 any day! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium newbryford Posted September 18, 2012 RMweb Premium Share Posted September 18, 2012 From the DEMU forum: http://www.vossloh-i..._UKLIGHT_us.pdf Cheers, Mick Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Revolution Ben Posted September 19, 2012 RMweb Gold Share Posted September 19, 2012 Hi all, Interesting. Has it definitely been designated Class 68 then, does anyone know? cheers Ben A. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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