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Pah - that was tempting fate!

 

Of the 3 only 1 would run to exhibition standards - theres a video on youtube

 

https://youtu.be/_vlmOzGiTOg

 

So its back in to Churchdown works for traditional pick ups to be fitted, did that to the latest 40s and it cured their erratic running so should work on these too....

 

Phil

 

 

That was hard luck but the video is very nice. The captions add to the realism. Thank you for the link.

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Nearly bought one of these today but on test running in the shop the only one they had left was a noisy runner. The proprietor was surprised and said this was unusual - anyone can anyone comment on how smooth or otherwise the mechanisms of these models are? 

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To me they seem very highly geared !

 

However once well run in and a Loksound chip installed this hasn't caused any problems - pick ups are a problem however, the arrangement as installed is nowhere near good enough for a DCC sound installation so wiper pick ups fitted - an easy job

 

All 3 of ours performed well at the Cotswold show at the weekend

 

Phil

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The die is cast - these 3 will become (Thanks to Andy Y and contributors for the Pinterest gallery)

 

Relentless

 

https://www.flickr.com/photos/37468455@N07/3742991964/

 

Srongbow - at Ashchurch

 

https://www.flickr.com/photos/52467480@N08/7307831708/

 

And Triumph as tarted up following the ST Blazey Open Day in MAy 71 - picture in the book of the Warships at Gloucester Eastgate on the SO Paignton - Worcester

 

Photos of Relentless seem to show nose end OHLE flashes in odd positions so will need to bottom that one out - any other quirks on these locos I should watch out for please folks?

 

Phil

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The die is cast - these 3 will become (Thanks to Andy Y and contributors for the Pinterest gallery)Relentlesshttps://www.flickr.com/photos/37468455@N07/3742991964/Srongbow - at Ashchurchhttps://www.flickr.com/photos/52467480@N08/7307831708/And Triumph as tarted up following the ST Blazey Open Day in MAy 71 - picture in the book of the Warships at Gloucester Eastgate on the SO Paignton - WorcesterPhotos of Relentless seem to show nose end OHLE flashes in odd positions so will need to bottom that one out - any other quirks on these locos I should watch out for please folks?Phil

 

Shape, size and position of extra air vents under head codes, check both ends Phil.

 

Mike.

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The Flickr image you have linked to Phil has the mysterious "crease" about a third up the bodyside, extending around the cabs on this shot. Adrian Curtis has mentioned this in one of his articles, I'm guessing it's an artefact of the stressed skin construction?

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Hi Neil yes noticed that!

 

As it transcends the drivers door and end I'm guessing its an accident induced gouge .... was it down the other side too?

 

And thanks Mike on the case with those

 

Cheers

 

Phil

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Was it really November I started these?

 

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Strongbow is booked to work 1Z69 and 1Z80 - both specials to/from Bulmers - wonder why? Need to sort those head boards out...https://www.google.co.uk/search?q=d847+strongbow&biw=1708&bih=775&tbm=isch&imgil=1UQyjLm3JTt6RM%253A%253BX_GNvxKP9JI1UM%253Bhttps%25253A%25252F%25252Fwww.flickr.com%25252Fphotos%25252F52467480%252540N08%25252F7307831708&source=iu&pf=m&fir=1UQyjLm3JTt6RM%253A%252CX_GNvxKP9JI1UM%252C_&usg=__r8yisKcJ4_7OZc9pRTJm8fbkeFo%3D&dpr=0.8&ved=0ahUKEwi5yaXd0-vLAhUHJw4KHXxvAdMQyjcIJw&ei=ynn9Vrm8O4fOOPzehZgN#imgrc=8ndKqIvpDfg_zM%3A

 

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Relentless is booked up to Worcester on 1B01 - the newspaper vans - and back up to Padd on 1A06. Ah - just realised have forgotten the square headcode panel ventilators on this one...https://www.google.co.uk/search?q=D839+relentless&biw=1708&bih=775&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwink46w1evLAhWGtA4KHawUCSUQ_AUIBigB&dpr=0.8#imgrc=6VacwzZ7Nkd0qM%3A

 

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And Triumph is on an out and back from Worcester to Paignton - 1B44 and 1B78

 

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Strongbow had patches of paint missing - see https://www.flickr.com/photos/52467480@N08/7307831708 - have tried to replicate those, not quite there yet - and look at those gashes along the side...Mr Downendian will be after me if I don't reproduce those but means running a scriber along the model....ouch!

 

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She was tarted up for a St Blazey Open day

 

The 43s generally didn't seem to get in to the same state as some of the 42s - perhaps they had more frequent visits to Swindon!

 

Phil

 

PS apologies for the multiple edits - wanted to be sure I got all the photo links correct

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Terrific stuff Phil.

I know what you mean about taking scribers to £100 plus models, not done it yet personally. The hydraulics seemed to get more than their fair share of side swipes or weird creases due to the stressed skin construction.

Neil

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For a while have looked at the speaker installation on this loco.

 

Its neat - but sound output not good, poor acoustics as the sound path from front and rear of speaker are not separately contained resulting in destructive interference and therefore reduced sound volume.

 

Answer? a Blu-tack gasket

 

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And in situ

 

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Result....double the volume for 5 mins work

 

Hee hee

 

I don't trust the rubbing strip speaker connections either so I hard wire them on long leads to keep body removal easy

 

Phil

 

 

 

 

 

 

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That looks very neat Mike .... look forwards to hearing that installation with your new sound file

 

But the 43 only needs the blue tack mod for prototypical racket...

 

Need to spend the dark evenings building some more signals I think

 

Cheers

 

Phil

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The next two 43s in works are Superb and Zambesi - just back from Howes with Bryan's excellent sound files and blue tacked speakers, copped it in the neck from SWMBO last night for making too much racket on the dining room table.

 

D849 will be early blue with serif numbers

 

D864 as first shopped in early blue with numbers under engine room windows - but struggling to find any photos of her in that livery....can anyone advise please?
 

Cheers

 

Phil

 

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If you have any old Ian Allan ABC's, then the 1967 one - part blue cover, pic of Merchant Navy 35008 on front - has a shot of D864 on p127.

 

The shot is by the turntable at Old Oak, unfortunately in B&W. Nonetheless the loco is clearly in blue, with full yellow ends. The "D864" numbers are serifs, so like the ones on green locos, and situated directly under the bodyside windows, with the top of the number in line with the bottom of the cab door handle. The BR arrows are on the cabsides, appearing to be centred beneath the cab window divider, and heightwise the arrow centre is in line with the centre of the number.

 

From memory, didn't this one have the dark brown underframe which included the fuel tank etc., and indeed everything below the bodyside turnunder. The picture supports this, but obviously I can't tell the colour!

 

I'll read my scanner instructions and see if I can do one, if you think this would be of assistance.

 

John.

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That would be very kind John

 

Indeed she did have the umber frames and valances in that livery - its the positions of the numbers, arrows and OHLE flashes that are the issue, and B&W will be just fine for that

 

I did have that combined volume - it was the year I started - but heaven only knows where it is now

 

The livery only existed for about 6 months hence the dearth of photos

 

Kind regards

 

Phil

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She certainly does ... but that's her later early blue (!) still with umber frames but with the numbers in the more traditional position

 

IS there one of the early early blue?

 

Hee hee

 

Phil

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