Dave F's photos - ongoing - more added each day

[DaveF]

Today's photos were all taken at Toton.

 

One was taken from beside the up hump, the others from the footbridge at the south end of the complex.

 

Toton wagons descending up hump June 64 J142

 

 

Toton 2x Class 20 down empties, Class 20 on hump Oct 77 C3613

 

 

Toton 47327 up coal Oct 77 J5842

 

 

Toton Class 25 down ballast April 78 C3769

 

 

Toton 44007 down empty coal May 79 C4577

 

 

David

[Peter Kazmierczak]

Ah, another of my former haunts. Didn't everyone go on a Sunday morning and collect wagon numbers..........?

 

Particularly like the photo of the Up Hump; hardly a weed in sight in those days.

[JohnH]

Oh my word.... Awesome!

 

Please keep them coming David.

[Market65]

Hi, Dave. What great photo's of Toton, one of the major marshalling yards that was on BR. That first photo' shows a typical cut of wagons descending into the yard. And indeed little in the way of weeds!

 

Please keep the photo's coming,

 

All the best,

 

Market65.

[DaveF]

D832 Onslaught is still with us as well as D7018.

 

I am a little puzzled about the two views of Royal Albert Box dated Aug 60.  The one with the green Warship shows GWR single line token pick-up and set-down posts and no Warning signal under the Saltash fixed distant.  Compare that with the Box brownie photo and the pick-up and set-down posts are gone and the Warning Signal has appeared.  A Rule 55 exeption plate has appeared as well.  So I would suggest that they were not taken at the same time, so were probably not the same month.

 

It is quite possible that the Brownie photos were taken at a different time, but I only remember going to the Royal Albert Bridge once, I thought it was with Dad, who took the colour photo.  I have to admit I didn't look at the Brownie photos too closely when I found them yesterday.  It might be that the Brownie photos were taken the following year when I was in the area with my grandparents, but they were not the least bit interested in railways, so how I got there to take the photos will remain a mystery.

 

Fortunately all the colour photos can be dated to at least the nearest month as Dad always kept detailed notes, and I started to once I had a decent camera, from 1965 on, taking colour from 1969.

 

David

[DaveF]

A look at Morpeth in the early 1980s this evening.

 

 

Morpeth Class 40 down empty pipe wagons Aug 80 C5190

 

 

Morpeth Class 101 Morpeth to Newcastle Dec 81 C5606

The canopy was moved back several feet from its position in this photo at the time of electrification.

 

 

Morpeth Class 47 Edinburgh to Carlisle April 82 C5649

Note the mail van

 

 

Morpeth Class 37 down Hydrocyanic acid and barrier wagons Oct 83 C6320

 

 

Morpeth Class 37 down oil Oct 83 C6322

 

 

David

[Market65]

Hi, Dave. Good  selection of photo's of Morpeth tonight. In C5649, of a 47 on an Edinburgh to Carlisle service, in April, 1989, there are, in addition to the Mk1 TPO, a Mk1 BG and CK, then a Mk2 TSO, and a further two Mk1 CK's - quite a number of CK's in one fairly short train.

 

Please keep the photo's coming,

 

All the best,

 

Market65.

[balders]

C5190 looks like 40011.....old fave, vac braked, formerly named (studs on bodyside) plated doors one end. Lovely pic cheers Dave

[DaveF]

Another visit to Pilmoor this evening, with photos over quite a long time span.

 

 

Pilmoor Class 37 D6754 up ecs April 67 J846

 

 

Pilmoor Class 55 D9007 Pinza Edinburgh to Kings X Sept 67 J1116

 

 

Pilmoor Class 55   D9014  Kings X to Edinburgh Feb 68 J1215

Dad's Triumph Vitesse in the background.

 

Pilmoor Class 40s D273 and 240 up goods April 68 J1248

 

 

Pilmoor Class 47 47443 up ex pass Feb 83 C5970

 

 

David

Edited December 6, 2014 by DaveF

[PjKing1]

Great pics as alway David, love the double headed whistlers.

 

Cheers, Paul

[flapland]

Absolutely love J1248 and something I never saw even when spotting around North Manchester around 81-83. 

[Market65]

Hi, Dave. Very photogenic views of Pilmoor. I must add myself to the likes about the double headed class 40 train - a pretty rare sight. That last photo' from 1983 has a fairly filthy looking class 47!  J1116 is a classic photo' of a Deltic hauled train, and is a further train to have three Mk1 CK's, (there was that photo' from yesterday which had three Mk1 CK's in its' formation).

 

Please keep the photo's coming,

 

All the best,

 

Market65.

[dandg]

The Deltic in J1215 is actually D9014 which was the last to remain in green until late 69.   D9004 emerged from Doncaster works in blue on 18th January 1968. 

 

J1116 nicely illustrates the horns mounted in the nose cone - Pinza was the only one so fitted and the horns were relocated to the top of the bonnets when it emerged in blue in October 67..

 

Thank you for more excellent pictures from the 1960s.

 

edited to add information about D9007.

Edited December 6, 2014 by dandg

[DaveF]

The Deltic in J1215 is actually D9014 which was the last to remain in green until late 69.   D9004 emerged from Doncaster works in blue on 18th January 1968. 

 

J1116 nicely illustrates the horns mounted in the nose cone - Pinza was the only one so fitted and the horns were relocated to the top of the bonnets when it emerged in blue in October 67..

 

Thank you for more excellent pictures from the 1960s.

 

edited to add information about D9007.

 

Many thanks for the identification of the loco - when I looked at it this evening I was fairly sure Dad's notes were wrong, but I wasn't sure enough to change it!..

 

David

 

Edit - Has anyone else noticed how much the trees on the left have grown in the last photo in 1983 compared to 1968?  I've only just realised how quickly birch trees can grow.

 

David   

Edited December 6, 2014 by DaveF

[62613]

The train in C590 is probably a Newcastle-Liverpool; the loco, stock and formation all look correct.

[DaveF]

A few more from the early days on the Keighley and Worth Valley this afternoon.

 

Dad and I sometimes used to drive to look at the line for a day out from Nottingham when I was visiting my parents.  Sometimes it was sunny, but that part of Yorkshire is not renowned for good weather.

 

The engines are still in KWVLR liveries.

 

Keighley No63 Sept 69 J1980

 

 

Keighley LMS Class 5 5212 propelling coaches to loop Sept 70 J2333

 

 

Ebor Lane 41241 Keighley to Oxenhope July 68 J1366

 

 

Haworth 41241 Oxenhope to Keighley July 68 J1350

 

 

Haworth English Electric D0226 Aug 66 J604

 

 

Oxenhope USA 72 taking water April 69 J1636

 

 

David

[russ p]

Excellent, having D0226 on a preserved railway in 1966 is age wise like having a class 70 on a preserved railway today

[DaveF]

A few from Lancaster for this evening.  They were taken in May 1972 when I was still a student in Manchester and used to go out on Saturdays for a change from studying.

 

Lancaster Platform finger indicator C954

 

 

Lancaster electrification work, parapet removal prior to bridge reconstruction 17th May 72 C0955

 

 

Lancaster Class 40 394 down oil 17th May 72 C0956

 

 

Lancaster Class 50 409 up ex pass, Class 108 on right very grainy photo 17th May 72 C960

 

 

Lancaster Class 08 3200 shunting 17th May 72 C0962

 

 

David

[Market65]

Hi, Dave. Interesting photo's of the Keighley and Worth Valley Railway, and also of Lancaster. On the K&WVR, I think that it was preserved lines like that which helped to save so much carriage stock from complete extinction. Thinking of carriages, I think that the same carriage is seen in photo's J2333 and J1350 -  it has the same guards door layout. The shunter seen in J604, D0226 has me wondering why the railway gave it a red 'V' on the front - was it a take on the 'speed whiskers' on BR green DMU's I wonder?

 

Please keep the photo's coming,

 

All the best,

 

Market65.

[great central]

Three lots of southern vans in two days, and nowhere near the Southern! They're taking over I tell you, run for the hills   

[Clive Mortimore]

Hi, Dave. Interesting photo's of the Keighley and Worth Valley Railway, and also of Lancaster. On the K&WVR, I think that it was preserved lines like that which helped to save so much carriage stock from complete extinction. Thinking of carriages, I think that the same carriage is seen in photo's J2333 and J1350 -  it has the same guards door layout. The shunter seen in J604, D0226 has me wondering why the railway gave it a red 'V' on the front - was it a take on the 'speed whiskers' on BR green DMU's I wonder?

 

Please keep the photo's coming,

 

All the best,

 

Market65.

Hi Market

 

Both D0226 and D0227 were painted black with an orange band forming a V at the front when in service at Stratford. It was English Electric's own livery.

Edited December 7, 2014 by Clive Mortimore

[DaveF]

Hi, Dave. Interesting photo's of the Keighley and Worth Valley Railway, and also of Lancaster. On the K&WVR, I think that it was preserved lines like that which helped to save so much carriage stock from complete extinction. Thinking of carriages, I think that the same carriage is seen in photo's J2333 and J1350 -  it has the same guards door layout. The shunter seen in J604, D0226 has me wondering why the railway gave it a red 'V' on the front - was it a take on the 'speed whiskers' on BR green DMU's I wonder?

 

Please keep the photo's coming,

 

All the best,

 

Market65.

 

The coach will be the same one, it is one of the ex Metropolitan Railway Dreadnought stock, this one is a 7 compartment brake 3rd No. 427, built in 1910.  The 3 Dreadnoughts were originally preserved for use on the Westerham Valley Railway, but when that didn't work out they moved to the Keighley and Worth Valley, they are now owned by the Vintage Carriages Trust.

 

In 1968 they were painted in blue and primrose for the reopening of the line, fairly soon after the blue was repainted into "crimson" (for want of another word).  I don't have a date for that.  The three Dreadnought coaches are now preserved in London Transport brown.

 

Colour photos of them in these two early "preserved" liveries are not too common, there seem to be very few on the web.

 

D0226 carried the orange/red (sources differ) side stripe and V stripes at the end from new.  When built by English Electric in 1956 it was painted black with the stripes.  It was one of two locos, D0226 was a diesel electric, D0227 (later scrapped) was a diesel hydraulic.  They were not a great success as they were too powerful for most shunting work and not powerful enough for main line duties.

The original number was D226, it was renumbered when the English Electric Type 4s (Class 40) were built.

 

Hope this is helpful.

 

David

Three lots of southern vans in two days, and nowhere near the Southern! They're taking over I tell you, run for the hills   

 

 

There will be more to come in due course, they turn up everywhere.

 

David

[Market65]

Hi, Dave. Thank you for your answer to my query about the carriage, which confirms my thoughts about it, and the EE diesel shunter and the red 'V', It is a very interesting story indeed about the shunter.

 

All the best,

 

Market65.

[DaveF]

A few photos today at Loughborough Midland and Normanton on Soar, a short distance to the north on the Midland main line.  Only one passenger train today.

 

I quite often visited Loughborough, as did Mum and Dad as my grandparents lived there.  The bridge from which the Normanton photos are taken isjust to the south of Normanton on Soar gives a good view, even today it is usually possible to park nearby.

 

 

Normanton on Soar Class 45 D109 early blue livery up ex pass March 67 J839

 

 

Normanton on Soar Class 45 down coal Sept 70 C394

 

 

Loughborough 20095 and another down ballast by crane factory June 89 J10026

 

 

Loughborough Midland Plasser GP72 crane working on new connection to Brush works when Class 60s were being built June 89 J10022

 

 

Loughborough Midland goods yard with ballast cleaner in rain May 69 J1702

 

 

David

Edited December 8, 2014 by DaveF

[62613]

J1702; Fitted van with spoked wheels! Looks as if it could be an early LNER type.