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From St John's Wood home of Lord's I propose to go to the Oval. Marc

We have been commissioned to produce some G&SWR hoppers very localised use. Our Furness iron ore wagons were the same or at least that's what we thought until we're were informed by the L&Y lot told me about the 2 ore trains a day that left lindal ore sidings for Wigan. Marc

That makes senceMarc

I agree unless it was a trade name for a material. Aluminium is a strange metal to smelt from its ore as it is done by electric arc rather than the traditional roast and melt method. ie heat with carbon etc and let it run out of the furnace. If I'm not mistaken the LMS converted some of the G&SWR's 20ton iron ore hoppers to bulk covered bauxite ore traffic in the late 1920's. Marc

I hope there was no long lasting damage to your camera? Marc

Thanks for the tips. We will be driving down from the Lake District so its a big drive which ever way we go. Its 8 hours to Poole or Portsmouth, 9 hours to Dover or Plymouth. Marc

We were thinking of going to Brittany next year with a caravan and small people, we were thinking of doing Plymouth-St.Malo over driving from Dover. Would out taking the boat be better than driving with small people? Marc

We built our "Scratchy Bottom/Lowick" layout in 3ft and 4ft sections. One 4ft section has 2 legs and that goes up first. The process is lay the sections on its rear face/side, bolt the legs on the stand it up. then repeat for each of the other sections, which only have one leg. This means that I can assemble the whole layout on my own. The trick is keeping the unit weight down. Marc

On the OPC drawings all the letters were not italic as were some of the others bought wagons and a grainy photo of a box van. The photo in the LNER wagon book shows a hired wagon with the letters in italics. Marc

I'm sorry Teresa! I'm afraid can't do that! Marc

I found this photo on ebay tucked away in the centre shows a LD from a LDECR wagon. It looks like a 15ft 5 plank open. Marc

I would like to find out if Cambrian Rlys Invisible Green come in as black. Marc

Firstly welcome to the hobby. I would like to echo the comments above. The advice I give to people how ask me things at shows is:- If you are stuck with anything Ask! there isn't any thing called a stupid question apart from the one that has not been asked. On the whole modellers don't bite, there is the odd one but they never have layouts at shows. You can learn a lot at shows you might even get to operate some layouts if you ask, most shows have people who are demonstrating building things they are there to help and pass on their skills. Don't go big on your first attempt. Getting something to the stage that your happy with it is easier if its small. If you have "finished" something in a year then your probably won't get board with it and it will give to encouragement to go back and have another go at something slight bigger or better. Simple is sometime more fun than complicated. and sometimes less is more. ie a small shunting layout will give you hours of fun both building and operating. Most importantly "HAVE FUN" both building and operating it is you hobby. Can I also recommend Iain Rice's latest offering Building Cameo Layouts, It shows the whole process from planning to building and even displaying if that's what you want to do. Also The National Library of Scotland have scanned all the 12inch to the mile maps for the UK http://maps.nls.uk/geo/find/#zoom=5&lat=56.0000&lon=-4.0000&layers=101&b=1&point=0,0 This might help you find a prototype for your layout that can be squeezed into the space you have with a little artistic licence. Marc

Just found this photo on Ebay. First time I have seen more than one E&WYUR wagons together. It was taken at Askern Colliery Marc

Vol 1 of the LNER wagons books states that the brake was a carbon copy of the GER 10ft6 wheel base brake. The OPC drawing backs this up. As a side there is quite a few OPC drawings at york for the LDECR and a number of them are very close to standard GER wagons. Marc

Is there any good wagon photo's? We produced 3 7mm wagon kits a few years back from drawings and a couple of very dodgy photos it would be nice to fine a brake van photo as I have been commissioned to build one. Marc

It Ok but if you got some stuck in your throat as you could get a stiff neck! I will got my coat! Marc

I wondered what Bob was up to these days! Now we know. Marc

The last two furness A5 class loco's were withdrawn in 1918 but i think they used for shunting by then. The rebuilt versions were still running in Barrow iron works in the 1960's Marc

That's what i was thinking.You beet me to the draw! Marc

This is the case as I have a copy of a rail-motor drawing with Pettigrew's signature on it. The Furness did completely rebuild locos some of the 0-6-0 Sharp Stewart's looked completely different after they had left barrow works. Also the sharp Stewart 2-4-0 were converted to 2-4-2T the design of these tanks were copied by the Manchester and Milford. Marc

The P5 hopper NER Central Division's standard mineral hopper. It was a development of the Stockton and Darlington 11ton hopper with end-brake. See the photo. All non roasted ore looks like it was moved in them the S1-S4 hoppers were built for carrying hot roasted ore from the likes or rosedale mines. The NBR used standard mineral wagon on the whole but the did have some iron bodied hoppers about the same size as the NER's S1 hoppers Marc

Just found this thread. Hopefully I can add something to the discussion. The movement of iron ore and the wagons used to move it depends on the type of ore being mined. The term Iron ore is a bit of a catch all for a number of different minerals. So the types of wagon used will have different factors effecting them Each of these different types have a different amount of iron in it and therefore a different density. The method of discharge of the ore depends on the infrastructure at the Iron/steel works. If the the ore contained high levels of Sulphur it would need roast the ore. The company's approach to moving the ore are different Furness moved High iron content Haematite and Magnetite, very heavy, 85-90% iron and required hopper or side discharge. using mixture of wooden and all steel ore hoppers or side tipping wagons. NER moved Iron stone/Lemonite 20-50% iron, some requiring roasting, no roasted ore transported in P5 mineral hoppers, roasted ore in the S1-S4 hoppers. NBR simular to NER. Marc

From 1917 to 1919 SECR 7 planks were used by the war dept to ferry US navy munitions. i can't see any in the photo. Marc

Standard GE 5plk built before 1900 as they changed the design of the centre door hing after then. looking at the coaches would put the date of the photo some time after 1905 as the highland moved to an all green coach livery. Marc