Fair Oak Junction

An actual RTR item of Edwardian goods stock? I refuse to believe it! 😄

No, they are still due in around May/June. The new liveries are just additional ones also coming then. It wouldn't make any sense for Bachmann to cancel the yellow RNAD one given they've done a complete range of wagons to go with it 😉

Same. I've got so many existing projects I need to get done, but maybe in the future.

Having worked in the retail side of the industry, I struggle to argue with you on that point.

That is absolutely superb!

Ooooh, interesting. I've wanted a model of a Bulldog for a while but I don't have the skills to make the Brassmaster kit. A 3D print though.....

Are you going to post this same question in all the product threads, where the question is totally irrelevant? This has the whiff of a bot about it.

I was in the market for an 8F, to turn into a WD one, but even on sale I wont be buying one of these. I'll either look for a good second hand one, with the better smokebox door, or wait for the inevitable new tooled one in the future. Charging modern prices for older models is one thing, but actively making a model worse? Nope.

Such a superb looking little model, I can't wait to see the livery choices!

Yes, the lamp iron really does not look good either.

No, the product images on Rails of Sheffield clearly show a moulded dart: Compared to the front of the last version:

Apart from the smokebox door on this 8F, which IS from the older model. That 2000s tooling 8F didn't have the moulded dart this one does. So this is a step backwards in that regard.

Peter's Spares sometimes have them, otherwise eBay is your best bet.

There certainly has been discussion of the ROD livery, both here and on another thread. But I think it's inevitable that it will generate less conversation compared to the more "normal" everyday liveries of GWR/BR. Liveries are clearly Dapol's Achilles heel. They are capable of getting insanely intricate liveries right, while making basic mistakes on common liveries. They certainly aren't alone in that but it does seem to happen a bit more regularly with them.

I'm running out of different ways to say just how more fantastic this looks with every update! 😄 This is a supreme example of managing to make a silk purse out of a sow's ear 👌

Exactly, we'll never know the reasoning behind it. It is what it is and as you say, the market will tell if it was the right decision or not for them. For me that smokebox dart sticks out like flashing red warning light. Fine on a cheap/second hand model, not fine on one that expensive.

It's mind blowing to me that image is from a model released in 2024 priced with an RRP of £250! And people will defend this while complaining that a beautiful, intricately detailed new tooled loco costs £220.....utter madness.

Is it strange that I have no nostalgia for the model railway items of my youth? I liked them at the time because they were all there was, and they were better than what had come before. But now I can't help but look at them as poorly detailed lumps. I don't seem to have the same problem in other hobbies though. Warhammer, for example, where the modern figures are vastly better sculpted and detailed than the ones from my childhood, but I'll take the old ones any day. Odd how these things differ.

It's a different smokebox door to the one on the EP, note the length of the hinges. The EP one seems to be the later style door so I don't know if the dart is comparable.

Yes, Flying Money Pit is another that has always given me a good chuckle. I tend to use Scrapheap just because it keeps the initials the same 😉 And yes you've nailed exactly what I think about these nicknames 👍 The Blue Peter incident is one of those that will always remain famous because it was so dramatic and most importantly captured for posterity, much like the FS carriage bang and 60009 tearing off the gangway at the ELR. Watching the video of it happening even all these years later is a hard watch, but remains a fascinating one. The volcanic eruption from the loco, the noise and knowing it is tearing itself apart. I can only imagine the scene on the footplate during and after.

Silver Fox do RTR 4-CORs on their website, and sometimes have the BUF/GRI/RES appear on their eBay shop.

The whole situation is very strange, and in all likelihood we'll never find an definitive answer.

You'd think the loco drive tooling would have the correct smokebox door, not randomly one from the older tender drive tooling set that surely must have been retired a while ago?

The "Flying Scrapheap" nickname is something I've heard people use for a long time, and I don't see it as that much more insulting than many nicknames given to locomotives/classes. Pretty sure some locos over the years have been given monikers that I'm not even allowed to type on here 😄 Edit: Also concern feels a bit strong, it's just a tongue in cheek way of describing a locomotive. Not like I'm actually calling for it to be scrapped 😉