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Bachmann 37-537 20 TON BRAKE VAN BR BAUXITE - WITH TAIL LIGHT sold for a mere £38.99 ! A bargain http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Bachmann-37-537-20-TON-BRAKE-VAN-BR-BAUXITE-WITH-TAIL-LIGHT-/252491725293?hash=item3ac9adf9ed:g:pwcAAOSw-itXp21v

hi all, The platform fitted POA were TRL 5143 - TRL 5151 built on former ferry tanks in 1985 , saw them at seven tunnel junction back in the 80's then working from Nortons scrapyard at Bilston to ASW Cardiff and possibly from Parry Metals at Brentford IIRC. The other POA that carried scrap were TRL 5170 - TRL 5181 that worked from BSC Shotton to BSC Ravenscraig / BSC Port Talbot with baled scrap, TRL 5181 was in yellow livery and i think TRL 5175 was in light blue and originally fitted with some sort of roof / tarpaulin The other batch was TRL 5254 - TRL 5266 again working out of Shotton, Baz

This copy is from 1977/78 let me know if you need any specific info or with time could copy and PM you the entire contents Baz

Like Brian, I'll dig through my old books and notes and see what I come up with !

found this picture Baz

http://www.claphammodelrail.com/wagons.html Look for the tinplate conundrum ! Baz

Thanks Brian , Not a difficult conversion, two boxes and some spigots, think they had sheet metal floors ?. There was a pool of OCA that worked out of ebbw vale . BSC Ebbw Vale - various tinplate pool 4205 112117,176,238,245,344,361,377 Total 7 Don't know if there was any conversion to these Baz

Complete list of ex SPA converted to SDA SDA BSC Scunthorpe - Rotherham billets Pool 4245 460563,612,613,626,627,674,683,706,709,718,723,754,771,775,813, 460821,822,825,826,856,879,889,906,916,920,973,1000,1028,1058,1076. total 30 sides removed and 3 bolsters fitted to carry billets

Professionally weathered ! http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/oo-gauge-Hornby-Class-60-DCC-Fitted-weathered-/152183923327?hash=item236ede627f:g:quMAAOSwRgJXmREn

Yes OCA were used in baled scrap Pool 4105 BSC Shotton - various baled scrap 112223 276 296 309 314 343 357 Total 7

The OCA were in tinplate traffic , assume the were loaded similar to the SHA ? will try and find the pool of these

SHA coil wagons pools BSC Trostre, Ebbw Vale, Velindre - various tinplate Pool 4203 460390,492,522,707,722,726,758,761,792,799,811,842,898,914,928,931,943,951, 460968,984,985,994,1010,1037,1066. Total 25 460729 also listed in this pool as a SHA but not ever noted by me as a SHA BSC Shotton - various baled scrap Pool 4105 declassified SHA 460542,753,781,847,907,924,976,1038,1055 Total 9 Also SPA 460391,428,503,516,560,610,681,713,908,923,927,936,993,1023 were in this pool Total SHA conversions was 35, which leaves us 1 short which i've noted as 460978 which is listed in Pool 9044 BSC various RFM York

For a kit that's probably nearing 30 years old it looks the part , got some FTG spa's need to have the floor bolsters fitted as for some bizarre reason there are none, and the springs need replacing maybe should have bought the Cambrian ones

Two wagon labels for stainless slab from Tinsley to Port Talbot

These possibly worked to Pensnett , think I've seen a pic of the wagons there . Just found a pic on Flickrhttps://www.flickr.com/photos/wda4t/5324664952/

Back to the SPA wagons ! Some of the pools..... Pool 4113 assigned to Lackenby 15640 - various, pig iron. 460047 460123 460132 460473 460536 all had modified floors Pool 4xxx assigned to Grimsby - various , imported coil. 460335,340,349,355,357,388,405,411,417,422,475,477,479,481,513,528,531,532,565,566 460576,591,595,646,661,673,690,701,705,747,808,854,940,990,1016,1039,1061,1071,1090,1094. total 40 all had three wooden cradles Pool 4277 BSC SMACC - BSC Port Talbot stainless slab. 460354,368,384,398,420,425,435,458,471,476,499,521,569,573,583,609,616,623,648,669 460680,686,689,782,786,802,803,845,867,871,886,921,930,958,974,998,1002,1018,1036,1049. total 40 Pool xxxx Wolverhampton steel terminal - various, test weights. ADC 460498 ADC 461072 these were coded ZVA , assume used to carry test weights for the various cranes at terminals around the Midlands when i can find them theres the BSC Clydesdale to BSC Bromford pool for billits all for now Baz

There was also a pool of about 7 OCA wagons working out of Ebbw Vale will see if i can find them baz

hi all Canton brickyard sidings also recieved coil from Lackenby using Tiphook KHA ,VTG KIA and BAA/BZA on behalf of NGT (natural gas tubes ) at Tredegar some wagon labels and coil label coil was later unloaded at Tidal sidings near the Redland sidings ,

hi wayne, I've got a list of the wagon pools for the imported coil and slab SPA pools , will try and post tomorrow, think there are 40 in each pool , as for BMA prob worked Port Talbot to Llanwern slab. The SPA wagons carried 15 ton slab from SMACC plant at Tinsley, being rolled at Port Talbot and sent back to Sheffield SPACE on FEW and BDW with wooden cradles, BBA with 6 cradles (got the pool also) and the RLS 92551 - 562 PFA flats with cradles , used to see the PFA in Tidal yard empty waiting to go to Port Talbot for loading sometimes the whole fleet were there! Anymore info i can find /remember will post Baz

Lochside by Ian futers was something of a revelation to me when published in railway modeller many years ago, detailed and weathered locos a real inspirational layout , also Len vass with his articles on scratchbuilt wagons with 4mm drawings, something that the modelling press don't do today , built many a wagon from his articles , magazines today need more of the scratchbuilding articles like there were years ago !

Few pics of wooden cradles made from balsa with plastuct angle for the ends, same principle for BAA / BBA wooden cradled wagons i'm doing one BAA and five SPA with wooden cradles destined for my yet unstarted Great Coates sidings layout, carrying finished and semi finished imported coil.

The ska were originally for rod in coil from ASW in Cardiff and from the Scunthorpe rod mill, later had cradles from BZA coil wagons to carry imported coil, there were I think 30+ of These, may have ended up with being coded SCA , worked from Liverpool to panteg , Newport docks to ebbw vale, Immingham to various steel terminals. The spa wagons referred originally to, were fitted with three wooden cradles similar to the wooden ones on BAA and BBA working out of Grimsby Baz

just found one of my old wagon labels for a SPA wagon that was in the imported coil pool

The spa wagons with the black squares on and green painted stanchions on could possibly be in the Bsc Smacc Sheffield to Port Talbot stainless slab pool of which there were 40 allocated to this traffic, the other spa you ask about with wooden cradles were in a pool of 40 wagons for imported coil from Grimsby, kings Lynn etc ... to places like panteg steelworks, finding pictures of the cradles is rare , but there is a pretty good pic in a rail freight book of them at Scunthorpe, will find the book and can PM you the pic ! Myself I'm going to model five of these with wooden cradles having used the FTG spa wagon for traffic on my Great Coates layout, along with some baa with wooden cradles. The video showing spa wagons with cradles look as if they may have only been put in there to be moved ? Not aware of any spa with ex bza cradle fitted but you never know! Also modelling the coil unloading sidings at Shepcote so wondering if spa, boa or vtg Kia wagons ever worked in / out of there ? I've got the numbers of the spa's for both pools somewhere will try and find Baz

Just wondering if the class 46 would have worked to Oakdale and back ? Having gone to 0akdale comprehensive school from late 70s to early 80s , I seem to possibly remember seeing peaks at the colliery although I could be wrong, only once saw a box head class 37 which was poss 37053, plus a class 31 on a weedkiller.