Black 5 Bear

1 hour ago, Michael Hodgson said:

 

So the driver didn't get nicked for impersonating a rozzer!

Maybe they swore the driver in as a BTP Special lol?

2 hours ago, aureol40012 said:

I’ve not understood Accurascale’s decision to focus their attentions elsewhere, the class 66 announcement over a 40 was simply bizarre.  When I was a basher in the 80s the accepted holy trinity in terms of popularity were 55s, 52s, and 40s.  Hopefully accurascale rectify this omission imminently!

 

Im on the project team for the CFPS for the KR model and I too await with a mixture of excitement and trepidation!  We have fed back on certain key aspects of differences between class members, we too want an accurate model.

Maybe the choice of a 66 offering was due to taking on the former Hattons offering, with the intention of adding a few tweaks?

Purchasing the tooling makes good business/economic sense

It was already an excellent model, I'm pretty sure Accurascale will deal with the original issues before the model is re released.

Excellent news that you're on project team and are providing feed back to KR models.

I've recently purchased the Bachmann D213 Andania and can conclude that it's a fine model.

An Accurascale 40 will most likely follow at some stage, fingers crossed!

18 minutes ago, Downer said:

What we haven’t been told - and presumably won’t be - is how many of the six have previously been done in RTR.

Why exactly would Accurascale tell all and sundry what their future plans/release schedule as it doesn't make good business sense?

The Rails V Hornby Terrier duplication immediately springs to mind!

Additionally, even if a particular model has been done or is indeed current with another manufacturer, does it really matter?

From what I've seen so far, Accurascale have an excellent business acumen and I'm pretty certain they wouldn't produce a particular model if it wasn't going to sell.

On 06/09/2023 at 22:45, Phil Bullock said:

Class 42 Swindon warship is an ideal candidate for Accurascale…. 7 liveries, at least 5 body shell variants and worked alongside the Manor

 

What could be better? 

A Class 40 Phil, lol? 🤭🤭

With the GETS and Warley getting closer, I'm sure the good people at Accurascale will have an announcement or two up their sleeves for us all! 👍👍

25 minutes ago, stovepipe said:

....from Hartlepool actually, since 1865.

I stand corrected on the location.

Strongarm Red has been brewed since 1955 at the Lion Brewery according to the official website.

Nice beer! 🍻🍻

Just now, MidlandRed said:

KR Models are doing/have announced a class 40.

 

I can’t help wondering if Accurascale did one of the initial AC electrics, what a wonderful sound version could be made - all that roaring in the station!! I vote for a class 84 or 83 😜

 

There are also class 86 and 87s available (along with 90 and 92 - soon to be 89 also). AC electrics seem quite popular (except for the early ones). 

I've got a feeling that Accurascale will wait to see how the KR 40 pans out before making a decision on whether to produce one.

No doubt they've already done the measurements.

Additionally, Bachmann might retool their current offering as they've already done with the 24, 25, 37 and 47.

20 minutes ago, Downer said:

LMS or Southern next.  Either a W 2-6-4T or a Fowler 2-6-2T would be very acceptable.

Or more likely, something Stanier for the LMS!

Cameron's Strongarm is my tipple for this evening.

A very tasty red ale from Middlesbrough, coming in at a not too unreasonable 4.3% ABV.

Recommended!

3 hours ago, StuAllen said:

It’s not subtle, not going to lose the box on the shelf! 

Lovely!

Now where's my sunglasses lol?

On 26/08/2023 at 13:00, 97406 said:

Out of all the available and forthcoming options at the moment, the Bachmann is the best one. It needs lowering (about 0.75mm-0.8mm if I recall correctly) and there's other improvements you can do, but it is basically correct in its main proportions, and most of  the differences within the class are well portrayed. I'm definitely going to work on some more examples soon until one done to modern standards is released.

 

I wouldn't be at all surprised if the Class 40 is on Accurascales "To Do" list some time in the future.

Having seen the recently released 40 mock up from KR models, I'm not convinced by this, although TBF they're pre production photographs.

1 hour ago, 47007stratford said:

Anyone recommend where to source decent replacement buffers for this loco 

I did read a modelling article some time ago that the oval buffers as fitted on the Hornby Class 50 were an easy/cost effective replacement for the Bachmann Class 40.

Does anyone have pictures of D213 per chance?

TIA!

31 minutes ago, Dunsignalling said:

If Oxford Rail's future is still under consideration by the new powers-that-be, you may be waiting a while!

 

John

Indeed John, my thoughts exactly.

I'm now rather glad that I bought the Bachmann 45t crane with 50% off  from TMC earlier in the year.

8 hours ago, HExpressD said:

 

Has anyone emailed Oxford to ask?

Yes, and still waiting for a response from both OR and Hornby.

10 minutes ago, Mallard60022 said:

It must have a robust Gearing set up.

Phil

Absolutely Phil !

21 minutes ago, owentherail said:

I hope for a King or Castle.... suspect a rebuilt WC 

IMHO, The Hornby rebuilt WC and BOB class certainly hold their own in the current market.

The airsmooth version on the other hand could do I with a revamp to modern day standards.

I've got a feeling we'll see a new Rebuilt MN before either of the above!

4 hours ago, Islesy said:

I don’t think that there’s any doubt about that…

I can see 71000 being a (newly tooled) HD limited edition at some time in the future.

1 hour ago, MikeParkin65 said:

Think DoG would work if it were commissioned or in someway linked to the owners of the prototype - we'd have the kudos of 'putting something back' into preservation. Can't see it being a strong seller as a standalone main range model in its own right.

Maybe Hornby will reintroduce a newly tooled DOG 71000 in their HD range?

18 hours ago, cctransuk said:

 

I hear the calls for a retooled 8F - apparently simply for the sake of having something on which to spend idle money.

 

What I don't hear - despite the asking - is an analysis of what improvements are required.

 

I am therefore drawn to the conclusion that these must be yet more electronic gadgetry - at the expensive of essential adhesive weight.

 

Do these flickering, chuffing, tootling wonders shuffle up and down a programming track, rather than pulling realistic trains?

 

CJI.

Again, you've actually justified the main reasoning behind a newly tooled version, that being poor haulage capacity on the current Hornby offering.

You've actually admitted to making quite substantial upgrades to enhance the running of the model in question.

Additionally, the price point of somewhere in the region of £225 for an old model, is to my mind  somewhat excessive.

I'm sure Accurascale or some other manufacturer could offer a new model to today's standards at around the same price point?

As for "Idle Money" surely that is up to the individual whether he/she chooses to buy or otherwise?

As for the gimmick factor of S+S, which admittedly really isn't my thing, I can fully understand why people would buy such a model.

25 minutes ago, Downer said:

I never said it wouldn’t be a success.  I have no idea whether it would be or not. And neither do you. That was my point.

 

Maybe then, you should leave commercial decisions to those  manufacturers that know the potential market for an upgrade/new model?

19 hours ago, Downer said:

Being rude never helps. Saying that you would love a new 8F is one thing, claiming - without any evidence - that everyone else does too is something else again. You seem unable to see the difference. 

Rude, hardly?

As for you're response, I found that to be quite aggressive in tone, so I wouldn't go there if I were you.

Conversely, how do you know such a model wouldn't be a success?

The answer is, you don't!

Just because you personally wouldn't purchase a newly  tooled version, doesn't mean it won't be a popular model with others!

13 minutes ago, cctransuk said:

 

Just for interests sake - what is wrong with the current version of the 8F?

 

(Mine is a detailed Hornby Dublo model, with a Pittman motor, Markits wheels, and an Airfix tender - runs great and looks superb).

 

CJI.

Haven't you just answered your own question in paragraph 2 of the above posting?

20 hours ago, Downer said:

Where’s your evidence for this claim?  I model the LMR and would not purchase one, being quite content with the two upgraded models I already have. 

Evidence - how about feedback from other modellers?

You only have to look at various posts over the past few years on RMWEB and other sites to see a newly tooled Stanier 8F would be a popular choice and a  sound business proposition.

Just because you wouldn't purchase one means absolutely nothing.

I doubt whether any prospective manufacturer will lose much sleep over your personal stance!

On 13/08/2023 at 09:32, adb968008 said:

The LMS is the only area Hornby can consider safe, its last threat was the Stanier Mogul 2-6-0 announced by Bachmann back 10 years ago now.

 

ok weve got an approximation of Big Bertha on the horizon.

 

But if it werent for Hornby the LMS side of the hobby would be fading away.

LMS fade away? I somehow doubt that very much as other manufacturers would certainly pick up the void left by Hornby.

What was stopping other suppliers from producing an all new Black 5? - Probably the fact that H would rush one out in double quick time as has happened with other models.

For example, a newly tooled Stanier 8F would absolutely fly off the shelves!

Paul Isles of Accurascale for one,  has already stated that it is their intention to cover locomotives and rolling stock from all regions.