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Southern Maunsell Coaching Stock discussion
chris45lsw replied to 2ManySpams's topic in Southern Railway Group
R4842 is numbered as S5145S, the low window composite in set 399 (the brake thirds were S3232S & S3233S). Chris KT -
Southern Region Coaches from my Workbench
chris45lsw replied to 145 Squadron's topic in Modifying & Detailing RTR stock
Great work as usual, Tony. Southern Pride do a loose "Dining Car Chair", ref P38, which does not have arms. But perhaps it doesn't suit your purpose in other respects? Chris KT -
Diagram 2005 of 1930 and 1933 (as made by Hornby) did not (the whole window was a droplight). But the Diag. 2007 open thirds of 1935 and 1936 (second from June 1956) did have sliding vents, similar to a 4 Cor EMU motor coach. The leading coach in photo 1 is, indeed, one of these Diag. 2007s. Chris KT
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Ex LSWR rebuild coaches Help needed
chris45lsw replied to Nearlymen's topic in Southern Railway Group
So it's not just the East Midlands which seem to be permanently dank and grey at the moment then! Yes I bought this book a few weeks ago (though I can't find it at the moment!). Chris KT -
Ex LSWR rebuild coaches Help needed
chris45lsw replied to Nearlymen's topic in Southern Railway Group
Actually if you want a drawing of diag 407 you won't find it in LSWR coaches Vol 1! It's in LSWR Carriages in the 20th Century (effectively Vol 2), page 27. It 's also on one of Mike King's sheets - LSWR 56' 0" Non-Corridor Stock, Sheet 2 of 2. Hardly any LSWR non-corridors or 58ft rebuilds were painted BR(S) green - certainly none of the four diagrams modelled by Hornby except a handful of diag 31 TLs. Most finished their days in Malachite green or Crimson. And, as regards the photo on Hornby's website, although 2626 had been in set 51, after 1948 it was 'loose' though for the last several years of its life it was at Evercreech Junction with diag 285 CL 4654 - but they were never given a set No. In the pic (which features in 'Southern Coaches in Colour' / Michael Welch / Noodle Books) both 2626 and 4654 are in malachite albeit with BR insignia. In the set in the clip with a diag 407 BCL the accompanying 58ft rebuild is a diag 97 7 compartment BTL (not made by Hornby). The diag 407 will be in Malachite while the diag 97 is, of course, crimson. I would hazard a guess this is set 9, 11 or 12. If you want to model one of sets 51-54 or 56 with a diag 98 BTL (as per Hornby) and a diag 407 BCL in BR days the best option would be 54 (disbanded 7/9/1957) as the other four had been disbanded by May 1952. Set 54 comprised 2629 and 6480. I would agree that Malachite would get darker with age and re-varnishing. And, in any case, I would suggest it wasn't as different from BR(S) green as the offerings from the paint manufacturers might suggest! Chris KT -
Southern Region Coaches from my Workbench
chris45lsw replied to 145 Squadron's topic in Modifying & Detailing RTR stock
There are lots of 'minor' variations which affect which numbers are suitable, Jack, but the most obvious are the windows in the kitchen area. and of course your picture is of the corridor side! So before opining further have you repainted Hornby's BR version or their Maunsell liveried example? Chris KT -
I've now found the ACWN for 16 June 1947 ufn and the following cars were allocated to the Bournemouth Belle:- 1st Kitchens: Ibis, Lydia & Philomel 1st Parlour: Rosemary 3rd Kitchen: 17 & 19 3rd Brake: 94 & 95 3rd Parlour: 96, 97, 98 & 99 Leaving Waterloo the formation was:- 3rd Brake 3rd K 1st K 1st P 1st K 1st K # 3rd P # 3rd P 3rd K 3rd P 3rd K 3rd Brake Specific identities are not given. the two cars , # above, "Will be withdrawn when Belle runs formed of 10 Cars." All the 3rd class cars above were 12 wheelers but I'm surprised to see that all four 1sts were 8 wheelers. I suppose at the time the Pullman Co. was catching up with maintenance arrears following WW2. Curiosity aroused I looked back to 2 July 1939. Then, apart from the 12 wheeled 3rd Brakes, all the other 10 cars were all 8 wheelers. It ran as 12 cars at weekends but only 8 cars Mon-Fri. Chris KT Chris KT
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Hello Jack Further to Forester's posting the Appendix to the CWN for 26 September 1949 ufn gives the following formation of the Belle leaving Waterloo:- P = Parlour car / K = Kitchen car 41 3rd brake 97 3rd P Rosalind 1st K Glencoe 1st P Hibernia 1st K Sunbeam 1st P 98 3rd P 19 3rd K 7 3rd K 47 3rd K 94 3rd brake All 12 wheeled cars. Sunbeam and 98 were included on Fridays, Sats and Suns, and on other days 'as required'. I might have 1947 details somewhere - if I find them I will post! Chris KT
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As the resident of a Notts village to the East of the Trent and about 2 miles from the Newark Showground it's a great venue for me! And I'm sure the Lincoln Club explored all possible alternatives in and around Lincoln before going for Newark. Yes we don't have a club in Newark, alas. The Lincs/Notts border does not coincide with the river until a little South of the Dunham toll bridge on the A57. Before that it's very erratic and the most Easterly extremity of Notts is only a little over a mile from Saxilby! Chris KT
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I suspect it probably is a Bec kit assembled by Eames, put on a Triang chassis and sold RTR under their name. From memory I think the 94xx originated with Esanel but Bec took over the Esanel range. Chris KT
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There were also RLHs on the 230, Rayners Lane Station to Northwick Park Station. That and the 178 were the last two Central Buses lowbridge routes but when they actually finished I don't recall. Chris KT
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I don't know when they appeared, Marc. I think that when the three halts were opened in 1906 they had no shelters at all - certainly I've seen a pre-Group photo of Nanstallon without one but I suspect they appeared before 1923 and were definitely in situ by the middle 1930s. Note that if you are modelling the BR period that Nanstallon's pagoda was replaced some time after 1947 as far as I can ascertain. Chris KT
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Not quite - 0395 0-6-0s were permitted on the Callington branch. Chris KT
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Filthy white or silver seems to be the most common livery in BR days! With the dairy name on an oblong plate. Incidentally there were no 4 wheel tanks in BR days. Pre War 4 wheelers were converted to 6 wheels apparently because the rougher ride of a 4 wheeler tended to churn the milk into cream/butter! Chris KT
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Yes the Lima inside framed Siphon G had BR1 bogies - Hornby or Bachmann GWR 9ft pressed steel would be an appropriate alternative. Although the Airfix/Dapol/Hornby outside framed Siphon G and H have GWR bogies they're not the right sort! They varied but the most typical was the GWR 9ft 'American'. Chris KT
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I used shellac when I was making card 7mm scale wagons around 1980-82 and they are still 'good as new'. Scenic genius, the late George Iliffe Stokes, extolled the virtues of his 'black magic' matt paint made by dissolving 78rpm records in meths in an article in the MRC for September 1959. Chris KT
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I know it needs a bit of work but Dapol, of course, do a 60ft PIII CK. Chris KT
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Pedant mode!, it's actually a 4 compartment brake third/second. And yes a BTK(4) or BTK(3) would be equally welcome, preferably both! As would the CK(3.5/4), ie with the first class 'honeymoon' half compartment (coupe) mentioned by Trevor. Chris KT
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Guernsey was an Adams loco and, unlike a few Adams engines, never carried a Drummond boiler. Chris KT
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Yes, the Bournemouth-York-Newcastle was ER stock one day; SR the next. It was Maunsell set 459 for some years until replaced by BR Mark 1 set 880 but with Maunsell catering cars. It was on this working that Maunsell RCO No. 7844 was written off following a collision at Sheffield Victoria in 1954. Chris KT