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I have gone back to 2022 on this forum to look for any topics relating to the conical end bitumen tanks which Bachmann announced a few years ago. I notice they were mentioned in this post in 2019 but did they ever happen, or have Bachmann dropped the project ? Bachmann 2020+ - Bachmann - RMweb

As a matter of interest "Mistamatthews" could the Mk2 have a shim inserted between the bogies and the underframe to raise it a tad ?

I remember my dad taking me to the Tyseley extravaganza on two consecutive years which I think were 1969 and 1970, or maybe 1968 and 1969. I am sure one was on August with good weather. what has just become apparent to me was when I saw 5428 at Tyseley in LMS livery it had only recently arrived light from Yorkshire, but was obviously repainted in that year or so. I have always loved the black fives and am a little tempted by this model, even though it would need to be in 1960s livery and condition for my collection. Wonder if the lamp on the smokebox can be replaced by a lamp iron.

Woohoo. Five pristine NCB liveried RCHs delivered this morning. A really useful blank canvas for dirtyfying. Thanks again Rapido UK and World of Railways

But by the same token, a freshly outshopped glossy WCR vehicle can look quite different to one in service for several years. I notice some images online today of 99318 which I believe has just headed up to Fort William. Nice rich glossy WCR paintjob which I am assuming is quite fresh. Looks like an SK which has had a buffet counter conversion in the last couple of bays. Contrast that vehicle with some of the tired looking air con Mk2s in the fleet.

Yes. The running qualities of the Bachmann type chassis are amazing. My introduction was via a friend's class 25 split from a trainset which had the original DCC PCB type decoder. It didn't perform very well at all and we were persuaded to fit a new PCB and a separate decoder. The results were absolutely amazing and certainly opened my eyes to what a decent decoder can do to an already very good transmission. I have about 8 or 9 stashed away to go under Hornby class 25 bodies, but they may be surplus to requirements now !!

As has been said D5218 never had the underframe valances but also had a much more see through underframe. Bachmann's class 25 was a welcome breath of fresh air back then but still has issues- which Shawplan etches won't resolve. We know the cab shape is wrong and the underframe is wrong, but Bachmann used the class 24 design cast alloy air filters in the bodysides. These were subtly different to the class 25 filters which flush framed and slightly recessed grilles. I suspect that etched hinge straps on the bodyside of the Bachmann 25 would exacerbate the discrepancy

Haha "Fly shunting" by Chargeman Hartley - does have a ring to it !!!

I watched a youtube video of a guy staying in the Corrour station "guest house" this week and he filmed or photographed most of the trains through there. I was surprised because I expected the class 156s to be single units but the majority were pairs. UK's most remote station! Corrour on the West Highland Line offers hiking and dogs. (youtube.com)

I believe Bescot's target 18 was diagrammed a class 45 but often got a 47, as did T64 and T65 when they ran. These trips mostly conveyed coal from Mid Cannock to Lea Hall colliery (adjacent to Rugeley power station. There were some 16 tonners in consists but 21 ton minerals and 21 ton hoppers were more common. My memories are from 1981 but not sure when until.

I think that is the point. The new Hornby black five as cost a lot of budget to develop and I am guessing Hornby will expect it to be paid back. Bachmann's models have become pricey in the last few years - relative to other manufactrurers, and it is noticeable the class 31s from Bachmann are more or less pegged at a similar price to Accurascale.

That is Sam. It is his USP. He has a large following. You either mildly like his output, or you "marmite it". Sam does seem to have a thing about metal bodywork construction being better than plastic. Not sure I totally agree about that, but hey. To be honest, I am not sure whether it has harmed Hornby's product reputation more by running the black five with an LNER tender rather than simply terminating the review and sending it back to Hornby. One think for sure the lamp issue is clearly highlighted by him, but is symptomatic of what manufacturers think of their potential customers in terms of built in tech. It seems to me that many car manufacturers are putting a tablet like screen on the dashboard between the front seat occupants. My eyesight is good enough to drive, but not good enough to obliquely view an electronic display to my left, particularly in the full range of lighting conditions a motorist experiences. I want my driving requirements to be in front of me, because I am the driver of the vehicle, and 97% of the time I don't have anyone else in the car with me. I will reiterate the situation. Steam locos were fitted with lamp irons which stood away from where they were bolted, welded or rivetted. The lamps were generally less than 12 inches square or round so are less than 3mm in OO scale. The lamps had a paraffin wick and a glass lense to enhance the feeblow glow, and fitted onto the lamp brackets - themselves less than a scale millimetre wide. Hornby development team are trying to recreate olde worlde equipment using blinding new state of the art technology which in my view does not work, especially when you consider the role of the lamps. They were used to signal; to ops staff what they were. Technically the fireman would go off shed with the lamps set for the movement, then at each station or yard the lamps would change. I am not from that era so I don't know whether the fireman would hang a tail lamp on the front or back of the loco for movements within the station, but the whole point is that Hornby's moveable lamp offering is not practical and needs nipping in the bud. I was half contemplating replacing one of my black fives with the new version, but have decided I really won't be forking out north of two hundred quid for a model which Hornby are charging extra for impractical gimmicks. If Accurascale, Dapol or Rapido were to bring a black five to the market, without such gimmicks I would be interested.

From memory there is an unusual arrangement above the solebar on the Hornby fish vans, which can produce an unsightly gap and has put me off buying any.

But would enough folk buy full rakes to justify them ? Personally doubt it, but welcome other thoughts.

Oh my Andy and Andy !!! Apart from the Rapido 16", I have the perfect diesels for these in the shape of the Bagnall courtesy of James Hilton, and the Janus from Oxford Rail. Can't wait for my delivery !!

Well I noticed that one of the preproduction models has the large transverse tool box in front of the cab. Is it only Britomart with this feature? As Bachmann already do it in 009, it surely will be in the 7mm range.

Do you think ? I would probably expect to see green algae water sloshing around between the inner and outer skins of the windows

Entirely agree. I first became aware of TOPS from Autumn 1978 when my chargeman got me to ring through the consist of 7G19 to the TOPS guys in Salop. in 1979 I made a visit to Salop TOPS and I was hooked. That was what I wanted to do, and got my job at Bescot in June 1980, right at the end of the punch card era. I pretty soon learnt the basic of TOPS - every single kilo of weight was recorded in freight vehicles - apart from freightliners that is, but that is for another day. So technically, a freight train from say Acton to Severn Tunnel junction could convey all sorts of vehicles which were all recorded in the TOPs computer. When the train list is produced based on the formation of wagons out there on No 4 road, TOPS knows the commodity, product weight, consignee, consignor, destination blah blah blah. The only thing that was needed was for someone / sector to underwrite the cost of each train, on the days it was planned to run. For example, on Tuesday there might be 78 tonnes of Pirelli tyres in 6 vehicles, Wednesday there could be 150 tonnes of chipboard, and on Thursday, 162 tonnes of household coal for Yeovil Junction. Like you I could never understand why TOPS never seemed to be used for this kind of stuff, or was it actually that BR were being forced to abandon domestic freight anyway ?

I was involved in Trainload Coal 1992-1994 and was in TOPS prior to that. I am not doubting the mentions of Discrete Coal Network on here, but I only remember it being titled the Speedlink Coal Network (SCN). Perhaps the Speedlink name was replaced, but it became Trainload Freight West's / Transrail's Enterprise service in the 1990s.

I am struggling with this. When BR operated RMBs they were part of the seating accommodation of the train. Originally RMBs were basically a 64 seat TSO with two seating bays converted to house a very small kitchen, counter and panty. I am not sure if they were subsequently modified but a store room was built into the place of the seating bay adjacent to the counter - meaning three of the eight seating bays of the 64 seat TSO were taken up with the catering area. Therefore, the majority of the coach was second class seating. My strongest memory of RMBs was a journey on the far north line - 26042 to Brora for 26046 back to Inverness. The buffet steward made the same train swap as me, but on the northbound journey he made a fresh boiled egg sandwich. I probably rode in the leading coach for the Sulzer thrash, but the RMB provided a very important complement of seats as one of maybe four passenger vehicles and a couple of BGs on the train. The point I am making is that I cannot imagine WCR restricting it's passengers from the equivalent of 5/8ths of a TSO.

Don't know much about the Tinsley class 13s except to repeat what was mentioned earlier - three locos for two jobs. There would inevitably be a few occasions where there were shortfalls, but it would depends how resourceful the Ops staff were to deal with the problem. Perhaps a single conventional 08 could cover some of the work, particularly empty wagons etc. An SSC fitted diesel could be used but not over "Humpex" humps, which might affect it's usefulness. At Bescot our Target 1 was the down hump shunting loco and it was radio fitted - that was a two way radio to the panel operator in the down tower. The radio was able to be swapped for when the loco needed a major exam but mostly stayed on it's role. At Bescot our down hump was originally "humpex" so we didn't put big engines over it, and used the engine release line to transfer traffic to the north end of the yard.

Hi all I was browsing through the excellent RCTS archive photos and discovered an unusual vehicle which seems to be on Bescot TMD. This is the link to the image in the collection https://archive.rcts.org.uk/shopviewer.php?pg=44441&code=CH06551C The vehicle appears to be a pre nationalisation van with hinged side doors, presumably fomerly a traffic vehicle but then in engineering use. The markings appear to be MOTIVE POWER BUSHBURY xxxxxxxxxxx Unable to discern all the numbers but the last four appear to be 4600. Interested to hear more expert information on the vehicle type and vehicle number but it seems to predate the BR type prefixes of DM xxxxxx or CDM xxxxxx which tended to be used on ex traffic vehicles

I understand your drive here Andy, but I personally think your expectations are a little high. I know model manufacturers place a "potted history" with their product, but the sphere is so huge, you cannot really cover the "life and times" of the 7 plank 1907 in less than the Turton volumes. Surely this is all about the purchaser doing their own research, with a basic provision from Rapido. Also, how many purchasers actually care to your extent ? My modelling period is around 1960 to 1974 so the remaining NCB internal users were in their last decade of use, on a private colliery railway branch. The Rapido product I see is a fantastic canvas for practising my weathering skills, and I suppose it is easy for me t buy half a dozen "St Andrews cross" examples which wont be going far behind my NCB locos.

Interesting to watch "Dean Park's" review of the Heljan 47 based on two models of D1960 (weathered and pristine) sent to him by TMC.I always find Dave's reviews particularly honest and fair, and placing the Heljan examples next to the newly tooled Bachmann 47, oh dear. I am afraid Heljan have taken all the very subtle curves of the class 47 cab away and given a very squared shape where IMHO the cab windows are not where they should be, making the bodyshell too tall. The other problem for me is the lack of taper, which was similar to the lack of taper on the DP2 cabs from Heljan. I have to admit, I may have to cancel my order for the class 104 and "kitbash" the Hornby BRCW Calder Valley class 110, given the recent spate of Heljan shape and design issues.

This has to be a real winning range. Never had great luck running narrow gauge reliably on 9mm gauge track, but did mind the more upmarket locos in HOe to be better runners. Upscaling to 16.5mm gauge will bring dream running with nice larger scale models. Beautiful