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I hope that is soon, not actually

Agreed but isn't the onus on the person coming down the slip road to be prepared to stop if there isn't a gap rather than barrelling down expecting somebody to make room

But is this not the issue of those coming down the slip road not willing to ease off & join the flow of traffic & expect a gap to mysteriously open up like Moses at the Red sea, I had it the other day when a young woman in a Clio came barrelling down the slip road, there was 3 lines of traffic, nowhere to go, HGV behind me, she ended up driving down the hard shoulder swearing profusely at me along with many fingered gesticulations.

@Aire Head Tried Xtrackcad but on the Mac it won't load & on the Linux machine it doesn't have any libraries of track, unless of course I'm doing it wrong which is highly likely.

Once again thanks guys even more to think about, I came across Inglenook last night so I think that needs to be incorporated in it somewhere, maybe as part of the 'works' I like Bredon but It doesn't give me the bridge unless of course the bridge is on the same level & it crosses a river which is cut out of the baseboard. @Realistic_build_Speed you're already in front of me you have 'some' rolling stock & just as important you have legs! so you're not on the floor. I may have to wait until Tuesday night when somebody goes out to accidentally make some.

Now you've taken the lid right off the can of worms, I'm sure this is going to upset a few, but whatever aspect I fancy at that time, it will be totally none prototypical, look at it as I am a multi billionaire & this is my real life back garden. I may have a GWR pannier tank (always liked the look of them), a nice 0-6-0 LMS shunter & maybe a 2-6-4 LNER loco along with a BR or even Virgin trains 0-6-0 Type 8, all together in the same siding or in the engine shed. As far as rolling stock is concerned again anything goes, I know I'm never going to be running 9 coaches at once, maybe 4 at most, probably only 2, but again these might be different liveries. If I go with the top one, then the works area in the middle is going to be something to do with livestock, a farm, maybe a milking depot, or a cattle loading area. This is not serious for me this is a distraction a bit of fun, sorry guys, I am a heretic. But one of the reasons for that is that I know I am not good enough to put together anything anywhere near to the standard that some of you guys do, although as we all know that may change once I start. Yep they are American, I couldn't find any UK N gauge 4x2's to try to copy, tbh never thought of looking at 8x4 & halfing them. The baseboard was built last night, just need to decide what to do with it, but whatever I do it has to have an incline or at least split levels, a bridge, a tunnel, a road ideally a crossing, not urban, river or canal would be nice (are there any n gauge canal boats?) but not essential.

TBF to them this was a couple of years ago, but the guy on the other end of the phone couldn't grasp why I wouldn't give him any information not even my DOB.

A funny as it is I reckon 90% chance it's fake

Yes I've heard of those, there's now a limit to how long the call can be held 'live' if the callee hangs up. At one time if you answered the phone upstairs, you could put the receiver down, walk downstairs, pick up the receiver down there & continue the conversation. That has now stopped also with the advent to VoIP it's not possible. One of the favourites is what is known as Wangiri, where the scammers call your number make it ring for a few seconds & then hang up, people then see they have a missed call without realising they are calling a number in Africa or a South Pacific Island. I understand those & how they work, what I still don't understand the "press 1" scam, but I would certainly agree to your advice which is Don't press 1. As a slight aside the one that really makes me laugh are the banks, they phone you up, then ask you to prove who you are, once had an intersting 15 minutes with a guy from the Halifax who wanted to talk to me about my account, he wanted my details to pass security, I wanted answers from him before I'd provide them, he couldn't get the answers until I'd provided him with my answers, he couldn't see the issue.

But who is there to stop them doing it?

But if you press 1 then you are only sending the DTMF signal back to their system, how does that then enable 3 way calling on your line? Just looking at BT's instructions IF you have 3 way calling enabled on your phone line you have to press the R button then dial the 2 number, they can't do that for you as they are the wrong side of BT's exchange. I'd like to know if this is just an urban myth as having worked in Telecoms for the last 40 years I cannot see that it is technically possible to do, but happy to be wrong, these scammers know more about the telecom industry then the industry itself.

Can you please explain how that is technically possible?

According to RM it's 1372mm to rise 30mm although it might be slightly shorter as I would allow 30mm or so after the end of the turnout before starting to rise

I installed Xtrackcad one of my Linux machines yesterday but it didn't jump out at me as being as easy as Railway Modeller was on the Mac, I'll have another look shortly.

Do you mean like so? ignore the lack of the other track I'm trying to use the free software which restricts me to 50 items

Sorry may seem a basic question, but I'm not sure what you mean, I've been trying to plan them via Railway Modeller on Mac using Peco set track I think it comes out as 3% is that acceptable? I've only got 2ft width I can't get a double loop in that space, can I?

My Grandson (8 years old) is train mad & has a OO Hornby based layout which has sparked my interest again, we have no room but I can fit a 4x2 in the corner of my office/bedroom. Biggest problem is I don't know what I want it for, to run trains or to model it. So need a halfway house, some running so I think it needs to have an element of RnR don't think E2E appeals but it does needs to have other interests, it does not need to be prototypical as I know square root of all about railways & how they run. I've tried to design one of my own but not knowing anything makes it difficult so I have found these 2 designs on a webpage http://www.cke1st.com/m_train2.htm My initial reaction was for the 2x40001 (Upper) but the more I look at 2x40007 (Lower) it grows on me.

Thanks guys I'd guessed already at 30mm so happily surprised I was close, just got to decide on the layout now, but before that what I actually want the layout for/to do

I'm playing around with Railway modeller to design a 4x2 N Gauge layout, just trying to work out the inclines what height do I need to set the bridges to?

Sorry OT, but the scally's will have a shock if they angry grinder the door expecting to get in only to find a block wall behind it

Are you sure, we were in Cornwall last year, funnily enough 2 weeks before it opened for the season but I thought it was about £15 each, but memory may serve me wrong, last time we actually went the kids were little & they are now in their 30's at that time there was hardly anything there, just a signpost.

And put a wall around it so you can't get there

Used to go to the docks to pick up containers, the rules were you were not allowed out of the cab once approaching the gantry and you MUST wear a hard hat, they could never give a suitable reply when asked would the hard hat save me if the crane failed & the 29 tonne container landed on the cab of the tractor unit.

Impossible Jeremy Vine & excellent is an oxymoron, removing a few letters gets you closer.

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