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Could you give a URL for the map, or a clearer description of where this is. I looked hard on Google (mind finding Ripple Lane is very difficult as it doesn't appear to be a real name derived from anything local - there is a Ripple Road) but did not see anything that appeared to be cartics. They deserve to be preserved, showing how the BR designers worked very effectively within the limited loading gauge to provide an efficient way of transporting this light but bulky load. Paul

Dear Adrian Thank goodness you added that remark as I was planning on sending Tony a link to this thread having just got back in touch with him via Xmas cards. He was the reason I opened up a new area on my photographic website - for ships, as he does a considerable amount on a huge photographic database of ships. http://paulbartlett.zenfolio.com/shipsferries Paul Bartlett PS - I've got four tubes of suburban coaches, basically unopened! PPS Totally OT, in this picture are Tony (white trousers for gricing!) and his brother http://PaulBartlett.zenfolio.com/stalbansrailway/e1d09eab0

IF there is a Cartic and it is the BR designed type (used by several private companies) then it should be a candidate for preservation! Paul

Ray Are you asking for these photos on sites where more old duffers are hanging out - such as the company related Yahoo groups and HMRS. I am saying this because you need to be a good age to have been photographing prior to 1961 - even a kid would be in their late 60s now, but cameras, film etc. were all very expensive so it was an adults hobby. I don't get the impression that RMWeb is the preserve of many elderly railway photographers. Paul Bartlett

Some loaded Warflats here http://paulbartlett.zenfolio.com/modawarflatpfb Some loaded Warwells http://paulbartlett.zenfolio.com/warwell Don't overlook that war damaged vehicles can be carried by rail http://PaulBartlett.zenfolio.com/lnerlowmac/e3e839627 http://PaulBartlett.zenfolio.com/lmspecial/e582ce364 http://PaulBartlett.zenfolio.com/brlowfit/e19982b30 http://PaulBartlett.zenfolio.com/brlowfit/e367a320 http://PaulBartlett.zenfolio.com/brlowfit/e1a11970a http://PaulBartlett.zenfolio.com/lmsplate/e2c7aa6d1 http://PaulBartlett.zenfolio.com/brplate/e3244840d http://PaulBartlett.zenfolio.com/brplate/e30ee626f http://PaulBartlett.zenfolio.com/brplate/e2d29cff9 I hope of interest. There are various MOD collections on the site. Regards Paul

This search only finds a proportion of the westbury photos on my site http://paulbartlett.zenfolio.com/?q=westbury Some 117 163 photos to be getting on with. Ben chairs here http://paulbartlett.zenfolio.com/benchairs Railiner http://paulbartlett.zenfolio.com/trlrailiner Regards Paul

Some here 235 http://PaulBartlett.zenfolio.com/brclass37/e125250b 308 http://PaulBartlett.zenfolio.com/brclass37/ef31d9f5 699 http://PaulBartlett.zenfolio.com/brclass37/e161be415 701 http://PaulBartlett.zenfolio.com/brclass37/ef60fbba 702 http://PaulBartlett.zenfolio.com/brclass37/e16e24724 896 http://PaulBartlett.zenfolio.com/brclass37/e1fba5418 Paul

Very nice, I hadn't heard of them being carried on SR Bogie bolsters. What date is this please? Regards Paul

I don't believe I have posted a link to my collection http://PaulBartlett.zenfolio.com/class47 Easily my favourite diesel loco; I've never forgotten seeing my first D1510 arriving at KX, the two tone green glowed. Paul

Sounds like Hornby's container has come in, and just in time for Xmas. There is a personal perspective guest comment about Hornby's woes in Model Rail 191 Winter 2014 page 153. Makes a lot of sense. Photos of the real B here, plenty ended their days in blue, I hope Hornby have used a prototype photo and not a conserved one http://paulbartlett.zenfolio.com/srguvandb Crimson would be very sensible as a batch were built in 1952 and would have been new in that colour. Amusing to think that blue was probably their longest established livery (apart from grot that is) - an early Blue repaint might have done 20 years in blue. Seasonal best wishes Paul

Not a parcels train, but parcels stock - photographs of the BGs prepared for the Flying Scotsman tour of the USA in 1969 are at http://paulbartlett.zenfolio.com/flyingscottrain Taken by Tony Dyer during his Mopok days, but I don't believe they did an LNER BG. Seasonal best wishes to everyone, and some lovely pictures on this thread, keep the links coming! Paul

and plenty of detail photos in http://paulbartlett.zenfolio.com/brcoilz A devil of a wagon to measure, it would be nice to see a model made from the drawing. Personally I never saw one loaded. As to the lovely model of the Strip coil, I was surprised that you had to do all of that drilling, I thought an advantage of etch kits is that such work should already have been done. As to where they worked, don't overlook they were maintained at Swindon http://PaulBartlett.zenfolio.com/brstripcoil/e3965cea5 As mentioned they worked to North Wales, I didn't see any loaded, as Trev did, but here is another at Chester wagon works http://PaulBartlett.zenfolio.com/brstripcoil/e3e86bc2f Paul

Having been reminded that I hadn't loaded up some of my GWR bogie bolster photos I have added 33 photos to http://PaulBartlett.zenfolio.com/gwrbolster including a couple of a re-inforced example in BR departmental use LDW84391 http://PaulBartlett.zenfolio.com/gwrbolster/e2eb4680f http://PaulBartlett.zenfolio.com/gwrbolster/e281eb587 Paul Bartlett

All way OT. There were large numbers of WW1 warflats which remained on Britain's railways afterwards - the LNW, MR etc. converted them to bolsters. http://PaulBartlett.zenfolio.com/ww1warflat Unfortunately for this discussion all have had the jacks removed. There was much discussion of warflats here http://www.rmweb.co.uk/community/index.php?/topic/46704-mod-train-warflats/page-2?hl=warflat&do=findComment&comment=593601 Greg discusses the two designs of WW2 Warflats here http://www.railalbum.co.uk/railway-wagons/military/ww2-45-ton-warflat-1.htm Initially they were very similar to those built in WW1. My photos are in http://PaulBartlett.zenfolio.com/modawarflatpfb I should sort them out separately sometime. I look forward to the Bachmann one if only because I wrote them a report on how useful they would be some years ago. I would have thought Adrian Swain at ABS would be the best source of parts - he usually makes all the separate parts of his whitemetal kits available separately. Paul

I thought my detail photos show the remains of the alteration to the decking quite well, remarkable that it has survived. when used with Gregs photos - most of which appear to have been borrowed from the GWR bible (no problem way past copyright). I am sure I have a photo of one of these on BR, but cannot find it - and have now realised that I have not scanned some of the GWR bolster wagons that I can find! Soon to be done. Regards Paul

Some of the strengthened ones survived well in industrial use. There is a whole set of photos of one from http://PaulBartlett.zenfolio.com/gwrbolster/e6124e0a9 Paul

Sorry to be boring but POO is a privately owned high - the ICI Soda Ash.

Dear All With all the frothing about the recent Hornby vans I have added five photos to my site, taken by Tony Dyer in 1970. They are most easily seen as http://paulbartlett.zenfolio.com/recentlyadded although they are in http://PaulBartlett.zenfolio.com/brfish Paul

or crimson, which is the colour it should be. I thought we were talking about the recent photo discussed on RMWeb that had at least one white 6wheeler. Paul Bartlett Paul

The only articles/books that come near to being accurate are Fidczuk, Peter. (1991a) The 16ton steel mineral wagon, part one Prewar and wartime designs. Modellers Backtrack vol. 1 (part 3) pp 124 - 133. Drawings - official of the slope sided mineral, Hurst Nelson 14/16t private owner (435), ex MWT/SNCF diag. 1/112 (119). Fidczuk, Peter. (1991b) The 16ton steel mineral wagon, part two Later Pre-Nationalisation developments. Modellers Backtrack vol. 1 (part 4) pp 148 - 156. Drawings - LNER diag. 188/BR diag. 1/103 ex MOT rivet (439); BR diag. 1/105 ex MOT rivet (418); BR diag. 1/102 ex WD welded (123). Fidczuk, Peter. (1991c) The 16ton steel mineral wagon, part 3: Developments under British Railways. Modellers Backtrack vol. 1 (part 5) pp 220 - 230. Drawings - BR diag. 1/108 welded (116); BR diag. 1/109 riveted (117); BR diag. 1/108 rebody welded. The full details weren't recorded, builders changed details such as top door or not part way through builds. The records on what went to Europe and came back are not so good, and then there are Private Trader 16ton steel mineral wagons - although there may be details of those in the registration books. There are funnies which we cannot account for, such as the U channel supports on the underframes http://PaulBartlett.zenfolio.com/brmineralweld/e392ba513 Paul Bartlett

Apologies, quite correct it isn't a BR vehicle. And Yes Portacabin are situated on the outskirts of town (these days). The centre of town is unrecogniseable with so much traffic! Paul

If you go into the original site and go large - original it is not boarded up. A GWR version in original condition. A lot of detail available here, very nice. Paul

Oh Adrian, even including your whitemetal range, there are a lot of useful gaps left in the 7mm kit market - especially if the etched wagon kits are ignored which are sometimes quite poor, and not something many of us can make. A grain hopper would be nice - I know they were never numerous, but they do seem to have been worked hard by how often they turn up in train photos. Parkside even have the work done for an LNER wooden version, would make a lovely 7mm model. But there are many others - tubes for example. Paul

An unusual (?) Bedford TK artic at 0.13secs in the video at the beginning of http://www.york.gov.uk/citycentreimprovements Apologies if linked before. Various other nice 1970s (a guess) scenes, even a glimpse very close up of a red star van. Paul PS don't believe the hype, the closure of Lendal bridge is awful.

The NRM has the GWR Wagon registers for these wagons. By getting in touch with them they should be able to provide a copy of the relevant pages. This is very likely to have information on when substantial alterations were made. search.engine@nrm.org.uk The catalogue is on the web to give the book reference you need www.nrm.org.uk/ResearchAndArchive Paul