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I agree. All are hydrated lime conversions. http://paulbartlett.zenfolio.com/brgraincgp Paul Bartlett

Agreed, as with this brand new Birmingham RCW one http://PaulBartlett.zenfolio.com/brmineralweld/e3c9c2154 and this, another Maclellan appears to have possibly retained a pressed end door all its 25 year life http://PaulBartlett.zenfolio.com/brmineralweld/e3767c79d and this Derbyshire one http://PaulBartlett.zenfolio.com/brmineralweld/e3cfe79f7 To change the subject, no one has mentioned these Met Cammell wagons with the inverted U channel support to the side stanchions http://PaulBartlett.zenfolio.com/brmineralweld/e3d636ff5 http://PaulBartlett.zenfolio.com/brmineralweld/e392ba513 http://PaulBartlett.zenfolio.com/brmineralweld/e31d06226

They used welded fabrication, so had fabricated ends. On BR built wagons (ie not those numbered in the first 60k plus) the pressed door was used on those of rivetted construction. http://paulbartlett.zenfolio.com/mineralrivet The side doors varied more, either rivetted or fabricated when new. As mentioned swapping of doors soon started! This included with other sizes of minerals, such as the 24 1/2 tonners - this with one rivetted door http://PaulBartlett.zenfolio.com/brmineralmeo/e416193f and I have a photo of another with pressed side doors. Paul

They aren't doing the LMS rivetted low profile or high profile rivetted type (became 240) Nor the GWR ones - K's did a quite reasonable representation of the steel GWR GRANO http://PaulBartlett.zenfolio.com/gwrgrain/e29e929ef And Parkside makes the very nicely interesting LNER version. http://paulbartlett.zenfolio.com/lnergrain As you can see these survived pretty well as long as the later BR unfitted vans. Paul Bartlett

Dave Larkin has confirmed this is one of a large batch both built by and owned by Chas Roberts in 1943. [CR had an extremely large fleet of mineral wagons that they hired out] Paul Bartlett

This is a photo of a 275, vacuum braked one. They are NOT doing the LMS one - all bar the final lot had a flatter roof profile http://paulbartlett.zenfolio.com/lmsgrain except the final batch which had the profile that developed into 270, as rivetted and then 271 as welded. No its too short, and Nevard didn't modify it if the article in Model Rail is correct. Some others have lengthened the Hornby Dublo model 21tonne would be reasonably accurate - metric. I suggest that wait and see is much better than all this frothing about a prototype photo. Paul

the second in first photo and Middle one in 2nd photo are LMS

The third is an LMS grain. Paul

Thanks, I must have mis understood something I read later. I was 16 (just) when I took these. Paul

I've looked through my collection of early photos of these wagons. The only one with split spoke wheels that I have is of a slope sided version. There is a Don Rowland photo (therefore early 60s) with one spoke and one 3 hole wheel. A lot of BR workshop built wagons of the late 1940s and early 50s have split spoke (and to a lesser extent spoke) wheels. I don't think split spoke wheels were newly built after the early 1920s! However, the minerals were largely built by private and Ministry of war supply factories and they appear to have been able to get 3 hole wheels for their builds - I would assume (never good with BR history!) they were new. Paul Bartlett

You may find something of LSWR interest in this collection, although Staines was a bit further out than you suggest - and larger. http://paulbartlett.zenfolio.com/stainescentral Acton did replace Feltham, Backtrack has just had a 2 part article about Acton Yard - April (4) and May (5) which discusses how traffic for the Southern Region was organised in the mid to later 1970s. Paul

4-6-0 built by North British working in Spain http://PaulBartlett.zenfolio.com/spanishrail/e579b10e2 and http://PaulBartlett.zenfolio.com/spanishrail/e579b11ce Paul

I have issues with the VAA roof. The way the end of the roof is modelled to join the end is far too heavy, and I'm not convinced that the roof ribs are anything like so noticeable on the prototype. http://PaulBartlett.zenfolio.com/brvaa/e296cec56 Is the profile accurate, it looks a bit too high but that may well be an optical effect. Paul Bartlett

Isn't it just a four figure number, pB9515 or 9575 ? Nice spot. Paul

Michael. Your explanation is perfect. I simply do not understand why these couldn't have been repainted and written as vacuum brake, the clasp brake either pre or post 1964 boxed style and the push brake examples post 1964, they would all have been suitable for both late steam and diesel operation. As it is they are simply wrong in all of the ways you explain. Paul

In later years BR ran them with GW lettering, POLLEN E http://paulbartlett.zenfolio.com/gwrgirdwagpollen They were NOT preserved at that time. Paul

Mine are here http://paulbartlett.zenfolio.com/brclass37 Paul

I think that the age of the wagon may be influencing this, the metalwork has eased and the sides moved out. This one is new http://PaulBartlett.zenfolio.com/broaa/e104a5613 and the sides appear to be close to being flush - the model also appears to have a slight difference between cantrail and sides. As mentioned by others, I don't like the grooves on the tank barrel - they should be raised welding lines. http://PaulBartlett.zenfolio.com/essoatankwagonvb/e2864d696 Nice to see they are doing the Regent tank, makes a change. Paul

Compare with http://PaulBartlett.zenfolio.com/broaa/e359f0338 and make up your own mind. Paul

Dear Simon Thanks for the heads up on that, yes appear to be the same - as is one of the unidentified ones at Avenue http://PaulBartlett.zenfolio.com/chesterfieldavenue/e163f5cf7 Paul

It is a shame neither of us photographed both sides of the red one, assuming they are the same then they modification of the side stanchions for tippling - shown clearly on mine - is only on one side. Paul

I have now posted my photos of the conserved one at Bolton Abbey. This is from the final batch, delivered at Nationalisation. See http://paulbartlett.zenfolio.com/embsay Paul Bartlett

... and there are still railway enthusiasts and historians that argue steam locomotives could/should have continued in use on this little island for decades longer. This photo is several years after the Clean Air Act. I agree, a brilliant photo. Paul

I had overlooked I have more photos of these, and in good condition considering their age and use http://PaulBartlett.zenfolio.com/brpomineral/e10b9054b http://PaulBartlett.zenfolio.com/brpomineral/e18b92f6f http://PaulBartlett.zenfolio.com/brpomineral/e1128acf7 http://PaulBartlett.zenfolio.com/brpomineral/e12074caa http://PaulBartlett.zenfolio.com/brpomineral/ea2817fb I am not sure if the curved ones are also Liverpool hoppers http://PaulBartlett.zenfolio.com/brpomineral/e1c778bf9 http://PaulBartlett.zenfolio.com/brpomineral/e11289b5d http://PaulBartlett.zenfolio.com/brpomineral/e1f7a1c91 As mentioned earlier there are several in the Chesterfield Avenue Works collection. http://PaulBartlett.zenfolio.com/chesterfieldavenue Paul

DW15000 late in life here http://PaulBartlett.zenfolio.com/gwrdeptcoach/e1e3f67f Photos of a CC2 start here http://PaulBartlett.zenfolio.com/gwrdeptcoach/e2760b78 Loriots worked with ballast trains, as they were used for carrying dozers which were used for levelling ballast etc. in some formations. http://PaulBartlett.zenfolio.com/gwrloriotlowmac/e9a615e2 Paul