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Eureka---whilst looking through my books/mags.for other Bournemouth rail info. I came upon just the pic. needed. It features in--B R Steam Southern Finale.50th Anniversary--page 85. Published by Key Publishing. It shows the coal crane mounted on its 4 wheel wagon chassis complete with buffer beam/buffers-just big enough to house the Ruston B similar cab--minus the track base and with the ability to swivel. Ed P

Phil H--Thank you for the pic--most interesting. I see several loaded coal hoppers and 2 grab buckets.I wonder why they seemingly did not load directly using the grab buckets ? No matter I have both modeled. I think the preamble would be a B4 presenting a coal wagon to the scene followed by the crane operation. I modified the Ruston crane by remounting it on a lowmac minus body and ballast weight--it fitted very well. I also covered up the Wimpey signage. Thanks again for your help. Ed P

Phil--thanks for your reply--have got this to hand--this was the later one but it is not exactly clear as to how it is mounted. Have ordered the Corgi crane and have the model hopper as pictured ready . I think with some crane mods I can create a reasonable representation. Again thank you for your interest and help. Best regards, Ed

Thank you for your reply. I can see from pics that 2 such cranes were used in the 50,s,one with a short jib mounted on a truck? (early 50,s) and a later one with longer jib with a swan neck end (later 50,s)--again mounted on a flatbed truck.It also appears that physical loading of the box shaped coal hopper was needed prior to transfer/ discharge into tenders/bunkers. I need to find a better pic of the crane and its mounting on the truck. I remember many happy hours spent on Central station -1955--59,during the annual early August hols. So interesting with the easy view of 71B shed and contents. Nostalgia---a very powerful driver.

Gentlemen--a little detail missing from my impression of Bournemouth yard is the coal loading crane . Was this a tracked Ruston Bucyrus?--or was it mounted in some other way. I am thinking of using the Corgi model as a basis. Any help will be greatly appreciated. regards, Ed Plant

That is a very good pic. of 7810 confirming its regular use over the route in my era--thank you for your 2 pennoth. I wonder if the coach attached is a S.R. Maunsell vehicle looking at the shape--not much to go on --and the oblong projection above the door? Very interesting---I have always thought that the researching of whatever rail project presents itself, is as interesting as the running of the models. regards, Ed

Thank you again friends for your help. My chosen rake is-- Replica Collett BCK Replica Collett TK Hornby Collett CK --bow end Hornby Hawksworth BTK All passenger coaches in Cr/Cr livery + either an Accurascale Siphon G or LMR 50 ft BG I understand that the W.R. did not generally use fixed formation sets so I guess my mix is not too far off the mark--certainly some of my choices featured on some of the pics provided.

Thank you gentlemen for your quick responses and that has added to my understanding of this situation. As we know things changed in 1958 and my model era is 1954-58. It does look likely that B.R W.R stock was used--can that be confirmed from the photos attached? If necessary I will pod out to use the correct models with the Manor.I have found records and pics. of 7810 regularly hauling the train in question but it is impossible to identify the stock. Ed

Gentlemen--Have 7810 Draycott Manor on order from Accurascale and this will be used for the above train +others plying the same route. Does anyone know which Company supplied the coaching stock--S.R or W.R and what the composition was? I am hoping it was S.R. Maunsell stock as I have a good collection. Thank you in anticipation, Ed

I assume that headlights will feature on the models but will be non working? I will order the Royal Blue version and would like to know if the destination display has been determined. regards Ed

Thanks Tony for the pic to explain things

Going back to earlier comments--Would gladly provide a pic if I knew how to . Also the Hunt couplings are not what I refer to. Will try and enlist help. Ed P

Have immediately taken to these for fixed rake ops--they look less obtrusive--they function well--and with close coupling and easy uncoupling. Have trawled thro, RMWEB but can find no reference to them. Are they available to purchase and has anyone else tried these? regards, Ed P

Still think the Catfish has been overlooked given the number made. Have since read civil eng. wagons ,vol 1 by D Larkin and find that my best bet on the S.R is the Grampus wagon. thanks for your inputs and help Ed

Thanks for your response--got the era right but region wrong.Still think there is an opportunity-- somebody is missing out.There were after all quite a number made. Am I right in thinking the Rapido 2 plank ballast wagon would feature on the B.R. SR?--and was it called a Sole?

I think they featured on the Southern as well--for me modelling such in the 1954- 58 period they would be more evident than dogfish as part of engineering trains--they pre-dated the dogfish.Good job I put the hyphen in!!!

Apologies if I am guilty of raising this in the wrong place--have just watched Simon Kohler,s chat ref 2022 range and he asked for suggestions--tried his email address but to no avail. What about a 00 catfish wagon--seems a notable omission to me Ed Plant

Darius --should have added code 75 bullhead

Hi Darius, That is good news. Do you know what is in the development pipeline?--particularly turnouts/points. cheers Ed

An obvious error of mine---R4816 should read Era 3 Ed

As previously mentioned this topic is complex and possibly difficult to fully digest when presented in normal written form. I believe someone else remarked that a tabular presentation might help. As I was deliberating on a purchase I decided to produce such a tabular effort to help me to determine what would be ok for my needs. I must say you can read and re-read ad nauseum to get to the bottom of this and my two pennoth may have some errors. I paid great attention to Mr King,s book and Mr Muzz,s comprehensive notes and it is very useful indeed to have those available. In conclusion I have ordered S7998S and I am certain it will fit into my scheme of things. It may be of use to others--see what you think. regards, EdHornby Kitchen Diner First cars and accompanying open coach.docx

Gents --thank you again for your responses-as you all say --fascinating to research and find out things. I have found that to be half my pleasure when planning/developing my layout. Not that everything has then to be slavishly put into place--compromises are a must---but there is no substitute for establishing the facts. kind regards, Ed

Gentlemen, Courtesy of these pages I came across exactly the same format for 72A over the same time period. In my era there was only one 71B Merchant Navy recorded (in fact any loco type from 71B) Obviously either way ,somewhat of a rarity. Ref. running in turns for 72A locos ex Eastleigh---would they use the Redbridge/Romsey or Andover connection to the south west? I just find this interesting so I do hope I am not boring anybody. regards, Ed